| Author | Message | ||
     Surveyor |
Used a 190 section SuperCorsa Pro on the track today and I can say for sure that it fits and it works REALLY well. Those who said it would foul the belt when it got hot or would damage the handling were 100% incorrect. The bike was rock solid everywhere and the lean angle possible allowed huge corner speed. Grip was only lost when the exhaust tail pipe grounded and lifted the rear wheel. These tyres are great  | ||
| Lpd22 |
that looks pretty cool. do you have any pics that are taken further back? I am really considering putting a 190 on the back of my bike. maybe when my michs wear down i'll go for it. again it looks sweet and i am interested in seeing a picture of the bike from further back. if you want you could just pm me the pic. thanks | ||
| Cmm213 |
So you say there was no handling differences between the 180 and the 190. What about turn in, did the bike dive into corners or was it harder to take into a hard corner. It has to be different somewhere. When you put a 190 on that rim you are going to flatten out the tire a bit, but if it work for you then go with it. | ||
| Jasonxb12s |
Although I do not use a rear 190, I am a huge P. Corsa fan...These tires are by far the best I've ever ridden. Nevertheless, I'm sure their is a diff. between the 190 and 180, but it is probably undetectable by mere mortals such as us. | ||
| Dana P. |
I'd like to see the profile and if it changed it much.I put a 180 on my old tuber when a 170 was stock and it indeed changed it considerable. | ||
| Surveyor |
If anything the handling was better probably, due to the incredible grip from the SuperCorsas. Turn-in was fine, usually it's a struggle particularly under braking but this time I found the bike less hard work and less tiring. The biggest problem was grounding parts of the bike and wearing out knee sliders and unprotected bits of my leathers.......elbow sliders next!! I think that because the SC's profile is so rounded, squeezing them onto a 180 rim hardly alters the profile at all as there is no shoulder. They may be a lower profile though hence the grounding problems? Hope these photos help...if not pm me and I'll send you 'em full size.   | ||
| Djkaplan |
"I put a 180 on my old tuber when a 170 was stock and it indeed changed it [profile] considerable." Yes, I agree. I also thought the profile was compromised by trying to squeeze a 180 on a rim that was too narrow for it. But that SuperCorsa looks like it fits an XB pretty good and Surveyor is obviously able to use every bit of the profile. | ||
| Lpd22 |
Thanks for the pics. It gives me something to think about for the future. (Message edited by lpd22 on September 06, 2005) | ||
| Fullpower |
indeed thanks for the photos and tire report. i see you DO have an exhaust problem there. why the extended exhaust tips?? | ||
| Surveyor |
dean, you're right I do have a problem with my exhaust grounding....and I've apologised see http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/144413.html?1125953507 You may have a point about the "extended exhaust tips" maybe they just cut 'em too long and no one noticed. I'm waiting for a reply from Remus/Sebring to my complaint about the problem. | ||
| Rocketman |
I put a 180/55 x 17 Super Corsa (looks the same as Surveyor's tyre) on my 916 and it wore a hole in the carbon fiber hugger. I've only ever run the 916 on that size tyre since I've owned her, the SC being the fourth different make of tyre I've run and I'd have to say the profile is higher in the centre than on the other three tyres I've run. Not that I'm one of those who can really tell a difference between tyres, hey I can ride on anything just as well, but the SC's really do talk to me on the 916. Rocket | ||
| Ortegakid |
I tried 190's also, work outstanding!,a little more triangular when mounted on our rear,(they are perfect for a wider rear wheel), but not really needed.If that's all you have use em, try they new pros in 180, you'll friggin flip! | ||
| Hattori_hanzo |
Hmmmmmmmm....where are your chicken strips?  Man, by the looks of you tires and the pic in your profile, I would think you would be able to judge what works on your bike! (sigh) The only time I scrape a knee is when I fall down!  | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
190 tires must differ in size, because when we tried to fit a Dunlop 190 racing slick on my nephew's XB9r, we had nothing but problems. First of all, we had to remove the rear hugger to get it on the bike. Secondly we got a lot of instability, even after we lowered the front forks to the max. Must have a larger diameter than the Pirelli. We also got a lot of rubber all over the place, I think it rubbed on the swing arm and/ or the belt, don't remember for sure. We took it off after one track session. | ||
| Surveyor |
I should make it clear that the tyre I use is a Pirelli Super Corsa Pro SC2 so it's quite possible that I have been lucky and this tyre fits and works but that doesn't mean that all 190 section tyres will work on a firebolt or even all Firebolts, nor does it mean that this 190 will work on other bikes, as is clear from Jon and Derek's posts. | ||
| Surveyor |
I'd be interested to hear about other people's experience using a 190 section tyre on track or road. In general the reported results have been negative up to this. | ||
| Metalstorm |
I don't know if it applies here but the Pirelli Scorpions on my bike are visually narrower than the old stock Dunlops even though they are marked the same size. I guess Dunlops run a wider flater profile which cause problems where the Pirellis are just narrow enough to fit with a profile that just plain works.  | ||
| Rich |
I plan on putting a 190 BT020 on my 12S, as soon as I wear out the stocker. I have one that I took off my Busa, before a trip, it only has about 3K miles on it. Since I got around 9K out of one on the Busa, I think it'll last a while on my XB. I also did the 180 on my old bike, it slowed the turn-in a little, but otherwise it was OK. My riding isn't that good, anyway. | ||
| Lovematt |
I have run 190, 180, 170 tires on my bike...coming from the older bikes ('84 Ninja 1000, '87 FZ700, etc) I am used to the more round and narrow tire. I have found the Pilot Roads in 170 works well for me. However I suggest you try multiple sizes once you find a brand you like as it really does change how the bike rides. Hard to explain but there is a noticable difference especially in the turns. | ||
| Djkaplan |
"I guess Dunlops run a wider flater profile..." I've found this to be true for 207's and 208's. A 170 Dunlop is visually as wide as some other manufacturers 180's. I bet a 190 Dunlop would be much more difficult to fit and the shoulders would probably be unuseable on a 5.5" rim. |
