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Therenardo9r
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a 2004 xb9r and have added the KN and made surgery to the stock exhaust (I have 2 stock exhausts and ecms, I would like to do it all myself but need programs, maps, cable.

Does anyone have the software and maps for flashing and setting up, I live far from a dealer !



can someone help
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Fullpower
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the ECM is factory burned. you cannot at present make any adjustment to the fuel curve, however with the factory headers you most likely dont need to.
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Therenardo9r
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 02:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thx but being a computer man I know that this process can be done, that is flashing the ecm to make it a race ecm, on ebay one guy is selling one, so if he can do it so can I, just neeed soft and hardware, here is the link below

fab

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4571819030&sspagen ame=ADME%3AL%3ARTQ%3AFR%3A1
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Lovematt
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 03:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The "racing ECM" is also factory burned. It does have a bit more range for adjusting fuel and whatnot but for the most part it can't be adjusted.

SUPPOSEDLY there are ones used by various race teams that can be mapped and "flashed" as needed but these are generally not available to the public.
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Therenardo9r
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If we were to forget about what is or not available to the public, an ecm is nothing more than an eprom and calculator that drives settings depending on sensors, with a cable interface (I forgot to say that I am the chief computer enginneer of a hospital) and from the time someone is willing to help with a few maps, program and cabled feed data line, I am sure that anyone with a little computer knowledge could do the right trick.

eg if manufacturer gives out a map considering emmission control (eg lean mixture) it should not be so hard as to change map to a richer setting and get the better out of the engine.

There has to be a way to get this computer stuff happening, one has done it as mentioned above, that is re flashing a stock icm, mind you, with proper equipment, a race icm eprom could be copied onto a stock eprom....
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Typeone
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There has to be a way to get this computer stuff happening, one has done it as mentioned above...

I hear what your asking/saying but I hope you're not basing much on an eBay post. He's got a pile of dirty parts in a box with what looks to be a stock ECM in the pic. Sounds to me like he just wants to off the parts for some easy cashish, have you emailed him about how the 'racing image' was flashed onto the stock ECM?
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Hd_xb12r
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I recently spoke to someone at technoresearch and he told me they are working on a program to change your injector firing time and so on in the ecm. They plan to have it completed sometime real soon.He asked me to check back in about a month to see how they are progressing.
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Therenardo9r
Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 06:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In reply to typeone, I have a spare stock ecm maybe I will open it up and buy another one for next to nothing on ebay, Once I have pulled on apart (I will definitely know what is inside), on the other hand, all ECM's (eg audi TT etc...) have an eprom that can be either changed or reprogrammed, And it could not be different for the DH/Buell ecm's..

fab
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Typeone
Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd say the info from Hd xb12r and Technoresearch is a great sign that we may see tools to help us tweak the ECM like you're looking to do Therenardo.

I'd still be curious if you emailed the eBay guy. Maybe he's got some tricks (?) but you'd find those tricks here too i bet, this board houses some insanely great 'tweakers' who know their stuff.
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Therenardo9r
Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Exactly, when I asked the ebay Guy where he got the job done he simply replied "its already flashed, just hook it up if you win the auction.
" maybe I should look up if some harley has the same type ecm and make a copy . I basically want to set it all up myself, no thrills...ans knowing that you can find tools for BMW's Audi etc...the Buell ecm must have the same technology, and I am looking into it to get the job done efficiently
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Therenardo9r
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 06:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just hooked up to the technoresearch site...I will call them shortly and buy the software...obviously they'va got it together, I already download the software onto my pocket PC it's unreal....just have to buy it now and the cable stuff
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Typeone
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Talk to DaveS about the Technoresearch software, he can get it to you and with a BadWeb discount to boot! See the Sponsor area of this site.
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Therenardo9r
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanx Typeone will get in touch with DaveS.
I did call the technoresearch guy and they are getting the software ready..! within two weeks...
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Fullpower
Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"within two weeks"......... october,.......november,......... deceeeember.................................
so what is new?
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Al_lighton
Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dean,

See http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/17143/162217.html?1134667502, and read past the airbox testing section.
DirectLink works, but I wouldn't quite call the SW "done" yet. I've successfully flashed both XB9 stock and XB12 race ECMs. The stock XB12 ECM is in work now and will be tested as soon as I get the beta code for it. Tube frame testing will occur afterwards. Documentation is sparse, and it took a fair amount of time to figure out how to get good results. I'm writing a DirectLink tuning guide now.

Doing it without a wideband data acquisition system at minimum, and with a Dynojet 250 preferred, is folly.
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