| Author | Message | ||
     1bad98s1 |
i am sure someone has asked this already, but is the forcewinder intake anything good? i have the cf buell setup now with the k&n. is it worth the 200? anybody have any dyno data? | ||
| Oldog |
98's1 I did the force winder on an X1. If you add a muffler change, and the bike is not wildly modded it works good. In that the S1 is carbed see the thread that this link is associated with for some important deatils on the carb setups and venting issues. You will be dealing with the crank reathers too. Is it worth 200$?, Does your air box admit dirt to the carb? Mine let dirt in to the throttle body inlet so for me it was a yes, no dirt in the motor and the bike runs good. I hope that this helps http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=3842&post=403676#POST 403676 (Message edited by Oldog on September 01, 2005) | ||
| Prez |
i have a 2000 x1 with a forcewinder...i just got it on the road about 3 days ago,there's a noticable change from the stock breadbox but i need to upgrade my exhaust now...i'll be doing that shortly,then i'm gonna have it dyno'd...i'll keep ya posted | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
I think I read that the CF spam-can race kit was slightly better in terms of power. I would have gotten that but it nailed my knee. The forcewinder is good for knee-space. | ||
| Djkaplan |
I like my Forcewinder, but I know I'll eventually get a ham-can. The Forcewinder clears your knee pretty well, but it sticks out far enough to hit the ground if the bike lowsides. It doesn't work well in heavy rain either, even with the dry-sock. I do love the look though. When I get the race filter, I'd be willing to trade the Forcewinder for something interesting. | ||
| Kuuud |
I have ridden in TORRENTIAL rain with my Forcewinder and rain sock (not easy to do with your fingers crosses the whole time!) Bike ran fine...no water invasion. I was shocked and, of course, very pleased. | ||
| Blackbelt |
Ditto.. I just rode through rain on tuesday, pritty hard too doin 80 MPH on I-75 no problems for the entire 72 mile trip home from work. The X1 ran like a top... would have said a raped ape but w/ the stock can on again (supertrap too a dump, long story) it is kind of quiet and little less power. I know the Ham Can is better on power, but it was the looks for me.. I have a X1WL and i got the Forcewinder w/ the White elbow, and it looks great on my bike...... where the Ham Can would look like any sportster... | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Yeah, rain doesn't bother my bike a bit. Bothers me a bit though. | ||
| J_ciclone_y |
I lowsided my M2 on the intake side. Low speed, rear just washed out on me on an uphill, inside hairpin. I think there was a bit of oil residue on the rear tire from the crank case vent (which I have since relocated). Anyway, the bike rode the skid on it's pegs and oddly, the right mirror. I very quickly picked it up, fearing the worst had happened to my Forcewinder. I couldn't believe it, but it didn't have a scratch--hadn't contacted at all! I know it sounds impossible, but that's how it went down (pun intended). It's probably not repeatable, and I definitely don't want to try, but just thought you might want to know a Forcewinder can survive a low side completely intact. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Crank vent, or tranny vent? Good news about the forcewinder. I watched a guy highside a beautiful S1 in a parking lot, and while his filter was a total loss, the metal part of the forcewinder dug a nice long groove in the asphalt. I hope the engine had already stalled. No major injuries, but I bet the guy wore gloves from then on  | ||
| 1bad98s1 |
ok. nevermind. ill keep the spamcan | ||
| Oldog |
Reepi: Crank vents, tranny vents else where,(oil tank I think) the crank vents are fed into the air box, at least on the x1, they were. My bike got knocked over one night, a few scratches no other problem and good knee clearence too, rain has not been an issue. I don't run a catch can just a filter on the vent hose a little slime now and again. I like the no issues seal of the filter to the elbow. an S1 does not have an IAT sensor, so its a non issue. (Message edited by oldog on September 01, 2005) | ||
| Reepicheep |
Exactly. Thats why I asked, unless one went to the trouble of routing a crank vent over to on top of a tire, it would never touch the tire. The transmission vent does go righ above the rear though. And if one got oil on the tire from that, then one of two things happened. One either over filled the primary, or one has a failing crank seal. In either case, the problem will likely repeat, I would hate to see another high side as a result... | ||
| Oldog |
Sorry Iz korn fused,  | ||
| Blake |
Anyone running or thinking of running a Forcewinder should read THIS. Big thank you to Aaron Wilson for sharing that info so many years ago. | ||
| Spike |
One thing to note about the forcewinder- if you leave your bike parked outside in heavy rain you'll need to re-oil the filter more often. My M2 lived outside and I noticed that heavy rain would rinse the oil out of the filter and leave it dry around the top, even with the rain sock on. | ||
| J_ciclone_y |
Reepicheep, Yes, I should've said tranny vent I guess. I'm actually not sure which is the culprit, as both are routed to the right side near the battery. I'm not sure how the tranny vent was stock, but it was just an open tube with an outlet near the battery (right side) when I located it for the first time (didn't know about it before being a new Bueller). I had just performed a fluid change on the primary, so I guess I could've overfilled it, but I thought I got it to the proper level. Best do some checking I guess . . . hmm. Blake, yup did find that post when I was deciding whether to go with the forcewinder. And I also modified the one I purchased off ebay per the article. No dyno, but seat of the pants says good and it looks SO much better than the bread box. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Tranny vent makes sense, which is why I brought it up. Overfilling is the most likely culprit. Keep an eye on it though, if the crank seal is going, the tranny will blort occassionally after hard riding, and just keep getting worse. I did a nice 360 at an intersection when I had a leaking primary gasket. Very entertaining, and left a cool donut in the intersection. Didn't drop the bike, though I am not quite sure how I managed to keep it upright. | ||
| Tramp |
this is me staying outta the forcewinder discussion... | ||
| Blake |
1Bad98S1, To answer your question, I like the performance of my Forcewinder very much. Had the CF ham race version ham can prior. The added knee room the Forcewinder provides is great. I also like the way it looks a lot better, more naked = more better.  | ||
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