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Firemanjim
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 09:21 pm: | 
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Well,I just snuck mine in after clutch install so figured you could "sneak" it out.I did use a plastic hammer to give it a nudge. |
Rocketman
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 04:26 am: |
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my comments should not be takin as complaining bout the Buell manuals, which are some of the best I've used (outside of the military, which spend way more on tech docs than anyone else, and for good reason) . . .
Hmm, well I've just come across a few 'mistakes' in the S1 manual. The best one I thought is right under engine install. After lifting the motor in place with the isolators located and a few heim joints fastened on the manual proceeds in an orderly fashion as one would expect. BUT it forgets to mention to hang the drive belt on too which is a pain if you followed the manual and you got the motor in place without the belt wrapped around the pulley. I didn't as it 'appens but sometimes like when you're spending the midnight oil and sweating through two tired mince pies these dumb things can happen.
Still without a manual life is a lot harder so it's easy to forgive these mistakes. More so when you've overcome them!
No matter how good you are as a spanner wielding beast the manual is a priceless and essential part of your tool kit if you want the job done right.
Rocket |
Bomber
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 09:10 am: |
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Rocker -- the M2 book contains a number of similar jokes -- even very intuitive stuff is hard to see through a fog of fatigue, impatience and mince pie effluviants (er, what's a mince pie, sir?) |
Rocketman
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 09:24 pm: |
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Why aye sir, mince pies - eyes! and when you've put a few 1 and 3 am's and a couple of 5am's in too that S1 manual begins to read like hieroglyphics - tired mince pies or not. Still the end result is worth it right.
Rocket |
Bomber
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 08:29 am: |
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Rockerdoode -- you bethca (what ever you said -- wish I'd paid more attention in English class ;-} ) |
Whodom
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 09:07 am: |
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Well, the snap ring is back on and the cover is buttoned up. I still have to hook up clutch cable, adjust the primary chain, fill it with oil, and I have to wait for my local HD/Buell dealer to get a shifter shaft seal (you'd think those would be in stock since they're also fit Sportys) so I can install that and then the shifter linkage.
BTW, I can attest that at least the diagram above from the 2000/2001 S3 parts book is VERY accurately drawn.
I managed to get the snap ring back into position without pulling the primary chain by using a pair of snap ring pliers with 90 degree "tips", but it wasn't easy. One trick I thought of that saved me from certain disaster: before I started, I tied a ~12" long piece of white thread through one of the tool holes on the snap ring. That enabled me to easily retrieve it the first 98 times when I didn't get it seated properly in its groove and it popped off. Once I got it on, I simply popped off the thread.
Again, thanks for the help. Hopefully I will be riding again by this weekend. |
Bomber
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 09:21 am: |
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who -- freakin GREAT tip with the thread, bro -- thanks! I'll file it away for use next time I'm in a simialr fix! |
Road_thing
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 10:27 am: |
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Yeah, what Bomber said! Great idea!
Um, you DID get the mirror out, right?
rt |
Daves
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 10:37 am: |
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Thread, you sir are a genius!
I will never lose another snap ring!
Thank you. |
Whodom
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 11:52 am: |
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Glad you guys like the thread idea. That was my one flash of brilliance in this whole deal. Yes, I did get the mirror out.
I'll bet I dropped that snap ring 98 times before I got it where it needed to be. It wound up in the transmission, in the bottom of the primary, half way across the carport, down in a pile of rags under the primary, etc. I would have been screwed the first time if I hadn't thought of the white thread idea. |
Henrik
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 11:58 am: |
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Who - great thinking indeed. Keep the little sucker tethered until firmly in place.
Henrik |
Iamike
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 06:45 pm: |
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Whodom-
In case you don't realize it the splines on the shifter shaft need to be covered, or you'll be replacing that seal again.
Al (American Sport Bike) enlightened me about using the corner cut off of a baggie to cover the spline, it worked great. I tried tape a few times but the baggie works much better. |
Whodom
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 06:54 pm: |
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My shifter shaft actually shredded the seal when I pulled the cover off. I think there's a substantial burr on it somewhere, I'm having trouble getting the linkage to go back on all the way. I had trouble getting the linkage on originally (updated 2001/2002 type) and I'm pretty sure my use of "persuasion" (i.e.- hammer) is what caused the snap ring to pop off in the first place. I will be filing/Dremeling etc. as necessary to obtain an easy fit.
Thanks for the tip on the use of a baggie corner. |
Dbird29
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 09:00 pm: |
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Do the XB series need the baggie trick? |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 10:27 pm: |
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I had that primary cover off my cyclone probably 8 times with the same shifter seal, and never a drip. At one point, I believe I even pulled the original out because I had a new one (and felt guilty), but managed to seat the new one crooked. Pried it out, put the original back in, and was good to go.
I did polish off the splines of burs and such before I pulled it the first time...
So YMMV... |
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