| Author | Message | ||
     Blake |
Per the huckster's web site...
If you believe that, I have some nice beachfront property here in Kilgore that I'll let you have for a real good deal. | ||
| Awprior |
Blake, Couldn't agree more. Check your email... | ||
| Stoobr2 |
All this talk of chopped-up airbox's, the ulitmate solution would be to fit one of these to the side of your XB and twiddle with the boost untill your hearts content.....  | ||
| Blake |
If I were going to cut up the airbox cover, I'd not want to degrade its structural ability to maintain its shape and thus its ability to maintain sealing with the filter. I'd not cut away excess portions as some have done. I think that is a big mistake that will lead to dirty air entering the engine. I'd go with something like my buddy Keith did but I'd use the new style lid...  | ||
| Wheelsleaning |
buellin: I found a sheet of thin aluminum and just cut it out in the shape of the hole but left some tabs to wrap and clamp down on the snorkel lip. Here's a pic of the exterior. It's galvanized fence I found at a local hardware store.  | ||
| Elff |
Blake Those holes are alot bigger than dirty air Those would work well against leaves, but I think anything that will get past the other cut outs will also get past the one you posted. | ||
| Stoobr2 |
Maybe something like this would be more beneficial, rather than vent the area in the knee recess ? Also seen a few UK Buellers drill holes in the black plastic area around the back of the filler cap (the image below shows large cut-outs with mesh behind).  *Remember to carry some duck tape if it looks like it might rain during your ride. (Message edited by Stoobr2 on June 16, 2005) | ||
| Typeone |
I think I'm regretting my 'swiss-cheese' airbox mod. I went to town on it similar to Keith's above but realized while looking at a CityX translucent cover that those holes in the frame on either side are most likely funneling quite a bit of hot air directly to the filter. Not what I'm after. Here's a quick illustration to show what i mean:  It's most likely more of an issue in stop and go traffic, no cooler air rushing over bike, but even at speed it must be contributing to hotter air entering the motor. I guess a heat blanket or barrier helps with the area directly below it but these openings in the frame have me wondering. I think my next attempt at an airbox mod will only have the 'nostrils' up front cut through both covers and sealed to inner box with foam. This way i'll have the stock intake + two additional inlets all sucking cooler air just like the various versions that American Sport Bike, Trojan, Hillbilly Motors, etc sell. It would also be pretty cool to have small covers you can slide over the nostrils in case of rain. (Message edited by typeone on June 16, 2005) | ||
| Wheelsleaning |
Stoob: My legs are no where near my intake  , and I would never want to have to carry tape to cover a mod I made  , and what about a tank bag? It's purty, but not efficient. | ||
| Kowpow225 |
Thanks Blake/Admin! I was getting worried again. | ||
| Spatten1 |
I agree with Blake, I used a 1.5" hole saw, but wanted to keep the top cover clips and hose routing The foam thing makes me nervious. | ||
| Blake |
David (Elff), The air filter as per normal will prevent anything bad from entering the intake. If there were holes in the top of the lid located directly above the inside of the filter, you would have a point. I don't buy the hot air concern. The volume of air and its velocity preclude it from being significantly heated as it enters the intake. | ||
| Reepicheep |
The filter to cover fit, and the filter to baseplate fit, has a pretty long mating surface, and is snug, sticky, and stretchy. It is much more analagous to a cork going into a bottle then a plate sitting on a table. So while the general concerns about a loss of structural rigidity leading to gaps between the filter and the cover or gaps between the filter and the baseplate are reasonable, in this application I don't think it is a big issue. Unless you somehow create something with nearly an inch of free play, I don't think you are going to get any unfiltered air into the engine. | ||
| Wheelsleaning |
Someone with a stock airbox setup in hot sunny weather should test this by cruising the bike with a thermometer directly over the intake stack. | ||
| Elff |
Blake I think I misinterpreted what you meant by excess As long as the top is covered, the sides can be gone and the debris wont be an issue. even with only the front 2 and rear two, the airboxes snap down tight and seal against the air filte. It still takes a little bit of effort to get them on so I dont think that is an issue | ||
| Buellin_ri |
haven't you guys ever seen any carb feed muscle cars. Granted its different world but there is a ton of dirty and crap in closed engine compartment and they are running a an open element filter. Heat does play a big part (not that the stock airbox was heat proof), but I think getting more air into the engine (cutting or moding the airbox) is to your advantage. I recently did it to mine noticed a big difference on the top end but lost a little low end. Just my two cents.  | ||
| Ingemar |
Blake, Just a question for you. You say you wouldn't open up the airbox on a xb like some of us do because it would allow dirty air to enter the engine. How about all the tubers with hamcans and k&n's? That's even less protected than an xb with cut airbox. How's the setup on your M2? | ||
| Henrik |
But hey if you want to take advice from someone that doesn't even have an XB ... Interesting comment from someone who just registered today and has all of 2 posts - none of which contain useful information - to his "name." Blake on the other hand has a fairly good grasp (gross understatement) on a variety of engineering and design topics. He was the one who conceived of and started up Badweb, and has a ton of useful - and accurate - Buell information to his (real) name. So, in short "Tex"; who the f*@k are you, and what have you done for anyone here lately, that would entitle you to strut into Blake's house and antagonize him like that? Could it be that your IP-addy would point to somewhere in OZ - maybe close to where someone is selling a yet-to-be-proven intake system? Henrik | ||
| Wheelsleaning |
 OK now children, no need for all that. This site is for sharing opinions, everybody has a different one. No need to start the foul words. | ||
| Devil_1 |
who am i? Im THE DEVIL  im down here in hell with my army of midgets that i torture, they all have sharpened teeth and are armed with a trashcan lid and a switch blade. Question: What have i done for anyone here lately? Answer: Thats easy - ive kept you all safe from the midgets  | ||
| Reepicheep |
Country: AUS Organization: Dragon Net (rural) City Lane Cove | ||
| Jerseyguy |
Wheels - When I was data logging A/F ratio data with my on the road data acquisition system I had an extra data channel. I put a thermocouple on it and mounted the end almost in the folds of the K&N. I have no inner airbox. On all of my various runs the air temp next to the air filter was ambient. I never tested it in stop & go traffic, but I proved (to myself at least) that at normal riding speeds the air going into the engine is virtually the same as the ambient temperature. | ||
| Henrik |
Wheels; I agree - to an extent ... now if "Tex" had *only* expressed an "opinion" about intake systems, but that's not the case; The Devil Pod Peddler has repeatedly been asked to either prove his point and sign up as a sponsor or stop peddling his wares on Badweb. In return for reasonable and friendly requests we get these hints and nudges and other "supposed-to-be" sneaky pointers. On top of that the Peddler has the audacity to insult Blake, who aside from being the owner of this site, is a friend of mine. That doesn't sit well with me. Now, should it, against my gut feeling, turn out, that Tex really is just a Buell owner with an opinion, and *Not* yet another pseudonym for aussie_buell_riderz (see thread below), then I will sincerely apologize for my outburst - until then ... http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/109207.html?1113789933 Tex wrote: oh its proven! Where and by whom? Show me proof from a known-to-be-trustworthy source. Henrik | ||
| Shawn_9r |
Devil your done now...you got Henrik pissed. As long as I have been here I have NEVER read an angry post from him. However he is right!!! Blake has dedicated countless hours to provide us(Buell Enthusiasts) with this site and has given us, that want to use HIS forum, rules and guidelines that we are to follow (ie becoming a sponsor to sell your 5h!t) Why is it that hard for people to do the right thing and respect what is asked of you. I know the why I was raised you do what is right and you treat others with respect. You don't have to like them but treat others as you would be treated. Just follow the rules!!! Shawn | ||
| Djkaplan |
I know I'm just throwing gasoline on the fire here, but I think that Pod airfilter the Devil posted would look outrageous inside a City-X airbox cover. It looks kind of like a 50's cinema Martian brain or something. I do highly doubt that it would flow as much as a K&N strictly because it has less filter area, though. Maybe I shouldn't interject here anyways..., I don't have an XB either. | ||
| Elff |
I have a question on the Fast system It covers the breather tubes. What type of effect does that have or is that material breathable? And DJ You just sit in your corner and be quiet you non XB owning ......  JK | ||
| Metalstorm |
My $.02 That Devil Pod thingamajig would be a cool "cosmetic" accessory as stated above as long as it doesn't decrease performance. If it had no negative effect it would be cool under a CityX cover. But even though I like the looks, and even if I had a CityX I would not buy one. Simply because peddling it here without being a sponsor is just wrong. Bad form! I can not, will not support anyone of such low caliber. Blake has been nothing less than cool. He is strict some times but as my father always said; "This is my house and if you can't respect the rules, leave". Again just to be clear. It's nothing against the product, it's just against the way it's being handled. (Message edited by metalstorm on June 17, 2005) | ||
| Cruisin |
I'm sure they put some sort of separate filters/catch can on the breather tubes... |
