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M2nc
| Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 11:11 pm: |
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Okay, I'm confused. Some say the Metzlers, and it seems they have the most votes, but I've ridden with two other guys on Metzlers in the rain and they were skidding around me while I was planted with the Dunlops. The Dunlops have limited lifespan but the guy that originally owned the M2 documented 11,000 miles on his first rear tire and 9,000 on his second. Not me, 5700 was the best I've ever done. Others posted don't seem to exceed these figures so what is the answer? Does anyone know of a tire code like car tires that specifies grip, durability, wet weather traction, etc., so someone can make an educated guess? |
Kaese
| Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 01:37 am: |
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I never had any luck with any Dunlop product. My choice is the the Pirelli Corsas. Second set I have gotten over 10K miles on a XB. I am a conservative rider, no wheelies, etc. I have noticed on warm days above 85 DegF that they tend to shred more rubber though. Tried the Diablos and they seemed much harder compound and didn't last as long. |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 06:33 am: |
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I ran through water deep enough to rip my feet off the pegs on an MeZ4 front and an MeZ6 rear with no problem (with the tires anyway, lots of problems with everything else). The MeZ6 is the replacement for the MeZ4, and the marketing blurbs basically said the new version was the same wear and the same stick dry, and significantly better wet grip, so maybe they fixed what you are talking about. The Scorpion Syncs feel even better in the wet, they feel very planted. |
Mikej
| Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 08:22 am: |
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I put over 11,000 miles on the original Dunlops that came on the M2. Like bikes in general, and life in general too I guess, how you ride is more important than what you ride. How one rides probably has more to do with tire life than the brand or model of tire in use. Some do wear better, some do stick better, but in the end the results will always vary from one owner to the next. |
Jeremyh
| Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 05:30 pm: |
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M2nc did you consider rider weight and style. and JEREMY_X1 the MAWONLINE place is right down the street from were i live, they seem to be nice people, also might be able to bicker on price a bit if you can prove lower prices on other online sites. |
M2nc
| Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 07:16 pm: |
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I know rider's style is a big part of a tire's lifespan. The Nighthawk is my commuter (cheaper longer lasting tires), so when the M2 is out, its either for a long distance trip or for heavy use. Still, when you buy cars tires, you can buy sport tires or 80,000 mile tires. There is a code on car tires that tell you the tire wear, grip, water dispersion, most people do not know that it is there. Consumer Reports had a good article on the code, and what it means. I was just wondering if anyone knows of a similar code for motorcycle tires. A 20% more durable tire may only mean 1000 miles to me, and 2000 miles to you, but its still 20%. |
Cowboy
| Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 10:23 pm: |
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I think that all sport bikes run 17 in. or special 161/2 in. tires for a reason. they all handle well and dont wear worth a damn. |
Thansesxb9rs
| Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 10:42 pm: |
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Jeremy_X1, I have the Conti - Road Attacks on my bike and they show little wear after 1800 miles. They handle great for a sport touring tire in all conditions. I am taking a 4000 mile trip on them next month and have no concern of changing them out. I have already deceided that I will get another set, and a friend of mine just got a set and loves them. For the price they are a great tire that you will enjoy for many miles. The Road Attack is a fairly new model and is a great tire. Cowboy what are you talking about, they are a sport touring tire and have a deep tread. You must be talking about Dunlops. |
Dale
| Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 11:10 pm: |
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Michelin pilot roads are a good tire. But Mileage will depend on riding style. |
Rick_a
| Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 01:48 pm: |
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I love the Pirelli Skorpion Syncs. A co-worker I ride with is afraid to follow me into corners on cold tires. I've got a couple thousand miles on 'em and I'm sure there's many more left. |
Jeremy_02_x1
| Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 02:55 pm: |
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How do you all typically ride? This is my first sport bike so I am usually accelerating very hard which is why my tire is going so fast. If you ride like me, what kind of mileage do you get out of a rear? |
Jeremyh
| Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 03:16 pm: |
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the words mileage,hard acceleration, and sport bike will always equate to the same thing and that is start saving your money for more tires. Personally if i put $7 in the gas tank then i try to put atleast $3 in a cash stash for things like tires. Its a toy and toys always require more money so get used to pissing your money away on tires and start enjoying the rides. |
Jeremy_02_x1
| Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 03:24 pm: |
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Hahaha. Too true, too true. |
Bikerjim99
| Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 06:02 pm: |
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If you are going on a very long trip, and want to get there and back, try a set of Michelin 880 radial tires. Not to be used on track day, to be sure, but if you are droning on interstates for a very long time, a great tire. You can expect a good ride. Sure makes it easier when travelling to not have to change a tire halfway through the trip ( which I have done more than once ). |
Ftd
| Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 06:13 pm: |
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Ditto what Rick A said about the Scorpion Syncs. Grip good, last a long time, even look cool. What more do you want? Frank |
Cerbero
| Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 06:16 pm: |
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i've got a 97 M2, running dunlop D208s... i mainly commute in the city (san francisco), but i've also taken some long trips (1600 miles was the longest so far)... under these conditions, my rear lasted just over 6000 miles... my front is still going strong (approx 7000 miles) |
Shotgun
| Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 08:40 pm: |
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Love the Dunlop 208's for grip and feel. If I could get 3500 miles out of a rear I'd be surprized. But I change them when the wear-bar shows. |
Daves
| Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2005 - 12:17 am: |
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Good sticky tires that wear out fast are still cheaper than parts and hospital bills. Ride on tires that are like bricks if you want. I'll take the sticky tires. A compromise is the Pilot Powers, dual compound, harder in the middle,soft on the shoulders. I put a set on the Mille R and they seem great so far. On the Buell I run Pilot Race, medium/soft, I ride it harder and like the grip of good tires. probably last me a track day or two and about 2500 miles of street/road riding. |
Rick_a
| Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2005 - 07:28 am: |
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All my tires thus far, from sport-touring to race compound, have lasted between 3000-4000 miles. Oddly enough, the sport touring was one of the worst for wear (Dunlop D220), and the race compound lasted longest (Pirelli Diablo Corsa). Riding in the rain with the wear bars showing front and rear sucks. |
M2nc
| Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2005 - 10:27 am: |
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Road in the rain for two states with a stripe showing last weekend. Probably the loosest the bike has ever felt, but very controllable. Mind you, I did not venture onto the mountain roads until Virginia (Trying to save the middle of the tire you know ) . Rick, you mention Pirelli Diablo Corsa, have you or anyone you know tried the Stradas? |
Cowboy
| Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2005 - 11:56 am: |
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My experence has been the same as Rick. How ever scence I quit pulling wrenches for my raceing team I dont have ackcess to the raceing tire any more. I think with less slipage you realy cut down on the wear.( cant help myself I have a quick wrist) |
Rick_a
| Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 01:05 pm: |
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Never tried the Stradas. Sport touring compounds are fun as hell when you ride aggressively. Sliding around on the throttle always puts a big silly grin on my face. Sticky compounds still slide, but generally only when you're dragging boots and pegs on the ground. |
Bikemakr
| Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 10:22 pm: |
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Just put Metzeler Z6s front and rear on the Cyclone- got caught in a huge storm- they stuck like glue. Did 200mi on them Saturday going to Americade and they did a great job in the heat as well! |
Josh_
| Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 10:35 pm: |
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Z6 review |
Oz666
| Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 02:47 pm: |
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Mounted a set of Pirelli Diablo Stradas ~ two weeks ago. Went Land of Oz -> Fontana N.C. (& RT 129 + MANY other roads) -> Michigan City -> East Troy -> West Bend -> Elkhart Lake -> West Bend -> Land of Oz. Like `em better than the D220's, mileage unknown - due to broken speedo cable (Dragon broke my rear isolators, too) but not too much visible wear, I'll keep `ya posted... Oz |
Bigj
| Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 06:46 pm: |
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BT 020's are inexpensive, last long, and are reasonably well handling. By far, best bang for the buck. |
Mfell2112
| Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 07:22 pm: |
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I agree with Bigj. The Stones last a long time and the grip way better then the stock dunlops. Regards Mike |
Tramp
| Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 07:26 pm: |
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the stones have lasted for a good 43 years and they'll go longer if keith richards keeps up with his weekly blood replacements |
Rek
| Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 07:56 am: |
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FYI, The tires that started this thread, Maxxis supermax, have about 1800 miles on them and are easily 1/2 gone. Might get one more trip...they are going to get one more trip, but after that they're finished. From my POV I'm willing to sacrifice a little stickiness for durability just because I put so dang many miles on. And for what it's worth I just ordered a new set of Metzlers. Rob |
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