| Author | Message | ||
     Buellboy05 |
Was going to change the rims on my CityX today and the rear axle is froze. It will loosen about 3-4 turns before it starts to spread the swingarm. Help!! I am spraying it down about every hour of so with some de-ruster spray stuff in hopes it will break loose before I take it back to the mechanic tomorrow. Anyone have any pointers? thanks everyone Phil 907-957-0762 climbinfreaks@yahoo.com | ||
| Buellman39 |
Let it soak real good with the de-ruster, then add some heat with a hair dryer and see what happens. | ||
| Yohinan |
Please don't take this as an insult but sometimes I forget the most obvious of things when it comes to working on something. You did loosen the pinch bolt fastener right? I spent a good 1/2 hour trying to get the front wheel off once and then kicked myself when I realized I forgot to remove this item. The rear has one also. Sorry if you already did this. If you did and the de-ruster is not working your only option may be to slightly heat the area up with a torch. If you don't want to do that something else that I know will work is to get a breaker bar/cheater bar with about 3-5' of length and turn away. I am sure that will loosen it. John | ||
| Spatten1 |
I seem to remember some axle breakage threads regarding removal issues. I'd do a search to find out why. | ||
| Buellboy05 |
ok yes, I did loosen the pinch bolt, took it out in fact also read the broken axle thread, was funny as hell but of little help http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/40106.html I think the axle is just seized to the bearing. I have been putting this aircraft un-seizer crap on it about every hour all night long in hopes that that will help, will find out later I guess. Any other tips would be appreciated. | ||
| Yohinan |
Yes the two suggestions I previously mentioned. I GUARANTEE you one of two things will happen ( it comes loose or breaks). Heat and or Giant Breaker bar will remove this. If you do happen to "break" the axle then I damn sure would think this would be covered under warranty. You just need to make sure that Buell knows you followed the Buell SM and it was a defective part/parts that caused this. John | ||
| Buellboy05 |
ok, will heat damage the bearing? aren't some of the seals plastic-ish? I imagine the torch would be a little much but the hair dryer not enough. am I wrong. I do agree that there aren't many mechanical problems that a good 5' breaker bar won't remedy but I would like to avoid that as much as possible. | ||
| Ivershay |
and you certainly don't want to do anything that might scratch "your" wheels !!!  | ||
| Buellboy05 |
Oh, believe me, I am not about to do ANYTHING to mess up "my" wheels because it would be way too expensive to have to buy new wheels. | ||
| Buellman39 |
Heat guns are capable of 1200 degrees | ||
| Buellboy05 |
there is no doubt that I could get it hot enough, its just a matter of how good that heat is for the bearings. I am not looking to damage anything. | ||
| Yohinan |
BuellBoy05. The heat may/may not damage the bearings. You obviously don't want to heat it so much that the parts start to turn cherry red. Just heat them up some to loosen things. A hair dryer would not come close to even getting things hot enough. You have to regulate the heat by moving it closer/further away to get an even heat and enough heat on the parts. If this worries you too much then I recommend you don't do it. You will feel better about not doing it if your worried about damaging your parts. Secondly is the breaker bar. Again if your worried about it then don't do it. I don't see any other options but one if you don't want to take one of those two routes. Your going to have to take it to the dealership and tell them your axle is frozen. As far as I am concerned that is a warranty issue and should be done free of charge but I am not the dealership so they may try and stiff you with the bill anyway, if you have one of those non Buell friendly dealerships. Almost sure they will use one of the two methods I mentioned to get the axle out but if something is damaged in the process they will have to get it fixed before giving you the bike back. Also, if someone does have another recommendation that I am not "thinking of" then please help this man out and clue me in also. More minds have more thoughts then just my own and I am always up for a lesson. A day is wasted if you don't learn something new each day. Thats my thought though. John | ||
| Buellboy05 |
I agree with you Yohinan, both of these methods came into my mind as well. I was hoping to learn something, like you said, from one of the many minds on the BadWeb. I have used the heat and breaker-bar methods more than a few times with good and bad end results. On a brand new bike with the only dealership in town being one of those slow non-Buell friendly types I was look for an answer that would or could not end badly. Just trying to learn a better way. Brains over brawns. I appreciate the help and its good to know that others would handle the situation in the same method I would. Thanks again. | ||
| Jon_s |
I'd be a little concerned about the thread on the left hand side of the swingarm. You don't want to pull the thread. Wurth produces a product called "Rost Off". Its a minus 40 degree aerosol that we've had great results with. Spray both ends of the axle as someone applies pressure. | ||
| Whodom |
Phil, I don't know what kind of de-ruster you're using but I've had good results with a penetrant called "PB Blaster". A guy I know swears by the stuff for loosening bolts that have been rusted in place for ~50 years on steam locomotives sitting in city parks. I can't think of a much better endorsement for a penetrant. | ||
| M1combat |
When you put the axle back in... Use anti-sieze  . | ||
| Buellman39 |
lots of it | ||
| Thepup |
Another problem I have faced.My axle seized up in the bearing.I ended up cutting the axle in pieces to get it out.Make sure you use plenty of anti-seize when you put it back together. | ||
| Gowindward |
MARVEL MYSTERY OIL it sounds a little like snake oil, but I have had it free up mechanical things that you would swear would never turn again, plus it's cheap. | ||
| Keveldae |
I had the same thing happen when I tried to remove the rear wheel . I used a plastic dead blow hammer on the swing arm . I loosed the axle until the swing arm started to spread and the gave the swing arm a wack . I re-peted this and it came loose . | ||
| Rageonthedl |
Keveldae is correct that is how you get it off when it is stuck | ||
| Xbdave9s |
I also agree w/keveldae, I'm an auto tech and have used the same type of method to remove tough parts, also pb blaster is the best. Dave | ||
| Ivershay |
buellboy - remember when you asked for a swap, nobody would touch 'em. but now that you have a problem, everybody wants to help. i felt for ya then, glad they aren't letting us down now !! see, you didn't just get a bike. you got an extended family, all with the same malady (2 wheel fever). take your time, i'm not in a huge hurry ... yet!  (Message edited by ivershay on May 24, 2005) | ||
| Buellboy05 |
ok, used this high strength anti-sieze Aircraft stuff called CorrosionX. worked like a charm. sprayed it, let it sit, rotated the wheel a little and repeated. Tried to get it out tonight and it came out with no problems. thanks everybody for all the help Phil | ||
| Ivershay |
 post a pic when you're done. haven't seen an sx with those rims | ||
| Charlieboy6649 |
I had the same problem with the front. Ended up just tightening it back up and taking it to the dealer. Good to read these tips. I'll try them next time. I had to pay an hour labor to get the dern thing out! |
