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Trojan
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 10:31 am: | 
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Well said Mr Norris |
Diablobrian
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 11:41 am: |
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on the nose norris.
People don't get it when I tell them it's as easy to make 10 as it is to make one. Even manual machining. Everyone wants something for nothing. They assume they are just paying for my time. That is not the case, they are paying for experience. Time on the job, and time on a particular machine makes a difference. But you know that.
Set-up time kills you, but once you have the machine set up for a process you can crank that process out. |
M1combat
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 12:00 pm: |
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And having your own damn machines to play around with.... Priceless. |
Jerseyguy
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 12:02 pm: |
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Thank you Mike. You said it much more politely than what I was thinking. We are getting $70/hr for our CNC work. Our last Mazak machining center cost $110,000 tooled up not to mention the other 3 machining centers, 5 CNC lathes, 2 wire EDM machines and complete manual machine shop with I forgot how many lathes and mills. Then there's the 25 employees with health insurance and benefits. NOTHING costs $10, not even one 1/2" end mill. |
Hogs
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 12:49 pm: |
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DAMN... I`m sorry I even started this thread, as I all ready knew it AIN`T cheap as you say...Yuk But Being human and always looking for a deal always did always will LoL Sorry Guys if I got the ideal out there ( for lack of better words) that it was CHEAP as I and we all know it AIN`T...SEtup time takes the most as well as design ,Tooling em out is just a repeat process all tools ready to punch em out at this time correct...Hanging around guys in a small Custom HD. shop with a miller, Lath etc.etc I know what ya mean LoL |
Hogs
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 12:51 pm: |
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Just like a farmer... A way of life...! |
Jerseyguy
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 01:19 pm: |
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Hogs, we still love ya brother! lol. The good part is I can get just about anything I can dream up made. |
Hogs
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 01:53 pm: |
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Hey Jerseyguy, Thanks Bro... LoL Let me know if ya ever need any help with them dreams of yours :-) Hey Mike thanks pal for reminding me LoL. Oh btw I guess ur parcel to me has arrived never seen it yet But was told it arrived Damn UPS charged me 59.95 Canadian can you Believe that , usps air parcel post is cheaper or as cheap mike to send stuff to Canada and No Bullcrap brokerage fees just for your own info though.. UPS are the worst In my Opinion AND I don`t care what they say its just my OPINION.If you wd. have sent that as a gift which is FREE between Canada and the US. Anyways UPS wd. still charge me 59.95 for their two cents worth where as USPS air parcel post would charge 0 $$$$$ Go figure eh Sorry about robbing this Thread...OH its was my thread anyways LoL guess I can rob it abit... :-)HEy Can`t wait to get the can and plumb it in etc.etc.. |
Ronlv
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 05:19 pm: |
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let me rephrase then, once everything is setup its not that expensive to make
all the intial costs are part of starting a business and designing a part
if all that is true then the price should go down not up with production
i guess i should of kept my mouth shut and just pay what ever the price
i have gotten parts made for next to nothing by someone that already has the equipment
excuses are like a**holes everybody has one and they all stink
later, ron |
Hogs
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 05:36 pm: |
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Hey Ronlv SuP...
"if all that is true then the price should go down not up with production" Yes this is true,But only afterwards one has Sold enough items(products)To make a break even situation, Time involved, material Costs,overhead HAhah How many Thousands here guys , etc.etc and a decent hourly wage ,Only after this stage wd. price go down if it wd.at all anyways as , material costs go Up, labour costs, and Most important the old famous Supply AND Demand, as we all know how that controls the market place Correct???/ LoL |
Hogs
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 05:39 pm: |
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So many ppl. today invest 100,000 150,000 start their own buissness and make maybe 30,000-40,000. clear or whatever after all said and done, So all one is doing today is buying their own job sort of speaking...Pay the bills and keep Da man away ...at least ppl. up here in my neck of the woods does...LoL |
Fullpower
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 05:43 pm: |
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"Ok, now you want to know why you saw a part for
10. bucks somewhere.
Labor rate in china is .56cents an hour
and the part was no machined from a solid
piece of aluminum, thats what billet is, solid.
It was a poured, cast molded part.
And cast parts are brittle from all the voids
in the part, caused by air pockets and impurities.
And they are not close tolerance parts.
You might say very cheap parts."
Sounds like my footpegs, made in taiwan, and cast full of air bubbles. |
Evil_twin
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 06:49 pm: |
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Yeah, I know what you mean Fullpower. Mine "fell" over while in Florida at bikeweek. Snapped the right footpeg clean off. My buddy felt bad for doing it, so we went straight up to Daytona HD and he bought me a new set. Funny part is, when we got back, I broke the seat cowl on his Ninja and "had" to buy him a new one.
Even trade I guess. hehe.
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