| Author | Message | ||
     Olinxb12r |
So I'm a member of two sportbike boards in Chicago, and a Newb was looking at a Katana on one of the boards for $4K to $5K. I warned the guy about what kind of bike a Katana really is because he is a Newb and probably doesn't know that a Katana is a SportTouring bike, not a SuperSport bike. Figured I would save the kid some money and frustration. Here is the backlash from current and ex Katana riders. Ignorance is so much fun! "Now i'm offended. A guy with a Buel is putting down another sport bike? The Busa isn't a sport bike like you said, that's why they never are compared to one, just like the Buel. I have never seen a buel tested against other sportbikes. The fact of the matter is that Buels are a laughing stock to the sport bike world, except for a few. Buel's are trying to be something they are not. Where as a Katana isn't trying to fool anybody into thinking they are a serious contender with real sports bikes." (Message edited by olinXB12R on May 16, 2005) | ||
| Olinxb12r |
More I know Katana's arent real sport bikes, but WTF, a Buel isn't either. Any new Jap 600 sportbike will kill a Buel on the track or street. | ||
| Olinxb12r |
More Buel is constantly comparing themselves to sportbikes where the fact remains they can't. A Buel should be compared to the likes of Ducati Monsters, Yamaha FZ1's, Suzuki SV's, or Honda Hornets | ||
| Olinxb12r |
I'm just letting the dumb ones talk, and it is really funny to watch people that don't even have Buells tell this guy he is stupid. One guy asked if I would care if someone said that Buells suck, and blah blah blah since I was talking about Katanas. I told him that I love it when people say Buells suck! That just means that I get to have a bike that is different than everyone elses! | ||
| Norrisperformance |
WTF, somebody needs some educating. You post any links to show them different. The one on the Buell site would be a good one. If they can’t spell Buell I’m sure they don’t know jack •••• about em. What forum is it, I think I need to be a member. | ||
| Olinxb12r |
The one where the guy was saying that stuff is www.chicagoriders.com and the other one is www.chicagolandsportbikes.com. In Chicago Land Sportbikes the thread is under Newbie Checkin- and I think the title of the thread is something about a reasonable price for a Katana. On Chicago Riders it is in Open Forum under the title Funny/CLSB. Check them out, you'll get a good laugh. | ||
| Midknyte |
Uh, that would be a "Katanga" this informative video will explain  (Message edited by midknyte on May 16, 2005) | ||
| Thepup |
Norris,What do the need to be educated on?Buells do get their asses kicked by 600 sportbikes,they are not true sportbikes.Buells should be compared to SV,Monsters,and FZ6's. | ||
| Norrisperformance |
I have never seen a buel tested against other sportbikes. Like I said, somebody needs some educating. www.buell.com/en_us/news_events/inthenews.asp (Message edited by norrisperformance on May 16, 2005) | ||
| BadS1 |
Pup 600's are faster in straight aways.Is that a sportbike or is hat Buell is about 15-20 hp less then they are and can click off just as good and sometimes better lap times???Buell doesn't really bill them as sportbikes nor do they compare them to the inlines.You are.Pup I realize you are an unhappy pup with your scoot right now but that could be a bad dealer | ||
| Wheelsleaning |
I read the same closed minded, stuborn, idiotic stuckup, swell headed, "sportbiker" comments on my local biker site. Too funny.  | ||
| Norrisperformance |
Thepup Why did you buy a Buell ????????????????? My last bike was a 2001 ZX9R and I had it on the track many times. My bike before that was a 92 ZX7RR only 400 of them where made that year. I've also rode and owned many others and raced flat track on 80cc and 100cc Yamahas when I was a pup. The Buell is hands down the best handling and the most fun bike I've ever rode. Truly a sport bike!! I’m sorry your unhappy, and hope your next bike never breaks down. Find a competent dealer before you buy. | ||
| Elff |
Well Having been a Rice Rocket owner for many years I have to say that I am extremely pleased with with my "Non Sportbike" street warrior Buell and really dont care what someone says who has never ridden a Buell. I got rid of a 2003 Honda CBR600RR to get my current bike. Coincidentally, a Katana 600 was my first bike. I still think it is a great first bike. Just enough power without having too much power. Now that I have been on a couple of rides with the Buell broken in with my buddies on their japanese bikes I have found that on the streets we all stay together. We just enter and exit turns at different speeds with different braking styles, but no one, unless we hit an extended straight away, leaves anyone in the dust. Most people can't come close to maxing out what these motorcycles can do but alot of idiots like to talk like they can. | ||
| Bomber |
the chicago boards are a flame-rich environment -- very contentious (reminds me a great deal of the old MC.Rec days) after a couple of months of lurking and posting very very seldom, I've found I've not missed them (nor them, me, I'm sure) | ||
| Norrisperformance |
Most people can't come close to maxing out what these motorcycles can do but alot of idiots like to talk like they can. AMEN brother !!!! | ||
| Olinxb12r |
the chicago boards are a flame-rich environment -- very contentious (reminds me a great deal of the old MC.Rec days) after a couple of months of lurking and posting very very seldom, I've found I've not missed them (nor them, me, I'm sure) Yeah, I think it is because those are posts boards full of other crap that happen to be for motorcycles. Not motorcycle post boards that happen to have some other stuff too. It is really funny, because now I've hurt peoples poor little feelings on both sites. Seriously, if you like your bike who cares if I don't. I was just trying to keep a Newb from over paying for a bike that is probably not what he wants anyway. Oh well, I guess he can learn the hard way next time. | ||
| Tatsu |
I find this discussion very interesting and funny. Here in Hawaii I ride with mainly the "sportbike" crowd. We usually meet on a Friday night and park at the gas station in Waikiki. We stay there for about 2 hours. People roll up,they talk about how fast their bike can go, stunts, modifications etc. The bikes are all lined up and the bike most people passing by look at the most is the Buell. Later in the evening we roll out to some of the local spots. Mind you, this is Hawaii, by the time you get your Busa or whatever sport bike your riding up to 170mph you have run out of highway or ran into someone. So their big bad Sport Bike has to run some where in the 55 to 80 mph range. Now yes. There is one road that they can open it up on, but I can bet my house on it, that there are several speed traps on that road and as your big bad sport bike comes flying by at 170mph, by the time I get there you will be sitting on the side of the road in hand cuffs and your sport bike will be doing 0 mph. Then there is the killer snake road, and all the bad boys that think they can go whizzing through there at 100mph get a very quick rude awakening. They can't and my Buell has no problems keeping up. Funny, when we stop my friend who rides a R1 was like damn dude all I could hear was your V-Twin right there with me. I'm never going to leave Hawaii so I will never have roads with wide open stretches, so for me the Buell was about being different and it is so in every way, it's about the friendships I make and that's what I enjoy and that's why I like riding. All the guys and girls I ride with share this common love. Same thing goes with flying and Signguy knows this. I use fly the CH46E, the Cobra guys would give us crap. The jet guys would give us crap. However, at the end the day and over a cold beer we would share stories and talk about flying. So you want a speed bike get one, you want a cruiser get one. However, enjoy life and enjoy the ride, cause that's what it's all about. | ||
| Nevar |
The Buell gets a bad rap on most m/c forums. Get used to it. Hell, I used to bad-mouth them myself! Here's what I think about the Buell... - From what I've read in mags and online, on a race track without many straights, given equivalent riders, the Buell will hang with almost any sport bike. - I love the sound, feel, and looks of my XB9S. You certainly don't see yourself coming and going. - It's not a very fast bike (dragstrip or top-end) but I don't care. - It *may* not be as reliable as a Japanese bike but I don't care. While I love to ride it, I also enjoy just LOOKING at the bike! Tim | ||
| 12bolt |
BadS1, I disagree. I was at the track last month watching OMRR (Oregon Motorcycle Road Racing)at a track with a very long straight, Latus Buell took second place and I never saw him get past by on the straight. Of course you could hear him hit the rev limiter a couple times :-) | ||
| Thepup |
Facts are facts,regardless of what I think about my bike.The Buells that are racing and almost competing against the Japanese 600's are in no way close to being stock,even the wheelbase and rake are different than the stock bike,where as the the 600's are alot less modified.Nothing wrong with enjoying your bike of choice,every one has an opinion and are entitled to express it.Why ppl on this board worry what other ppl think of there bikes is something I don't understand.On another note,I have gone to another dealer,they have had the bike since early Thursday morning and haven't even started tearing it down yet,gotta love Buell service.I will be getting a different brand and something tells me I will have just as much fun on it as I have my Buell.Enjoy what you ride and quit worrying about everyone's opinion. | ||
| Fullpower |
yes Buells suck. My XB12 SUCKED up 25 gallons of gasoline in 29 hours. | ||
| M1combat |
The Pup - "Buells do get their asses kicked by 600 sportbikes" No they don't. YOU Do. Quite blaming your incompetence on your bike please. | ||
| Hogs |
It *may* not be as reliable as a Japanese bike but I don't care. Nevar, Ya lost me here pal, What exactly did ya mean by that as I know many squid drivers with major crank , clutch plms etc.etc Hey Thepup.... something tells me I will have just as much fun on it as I have my Buell.Enjoy what you ride and quit worrying about everyone's opinion. WHY don`t you Practice what ya PreacH!!! | ||
| BadS1 |
Pup you really know nothing of the inline 600's that race against the Buells in FX.One they are Highly modified thats what FX is and the talent level of the big four exceeds that of are dealer sponsored racers,even though they are talented individuals them selves to be able to always finish in the top ten every race and a 4th being there best against the likes of Honda.Follow racing alittle closer before you spill out what you don't know what your talk'n about.2 I don't care what you think of your bike.You came to this board as a enthusiast of Buell.Then you have problems with your bike and your dealer and wine and complain to the point you are going to buy another brand.What do you expect??Why do you still come here to cry about your bike some more.Hope to hear that your new dealer has fixed your problem and maybe renewed your fondness for your bike.Until then follow racing some. | ||
| 99buellx1 |
Pup, I asked this on another thread but don't think I got a response. Who did the services between the times that you dealer had your bike? | ||
| Deerhunter17 |
Following along his thread, I can't help but want to chime in. I can only comment on what I KNOW, and what I know is what I have personally experienced. I have owned and have been riding motorcycles for about 32 years. I have had Honda's, Suzuki's, a Harley and a Buell. I am not thrilled with all my experiences on the Buell, but of all the motorcycles I have had, I have put more miles on in the least amount of time on the Buell. I had a Suzuki in 82 that I put 9k on in a year, but I am about to hit that on the Buell, and I have a month to go for it to be a year old. I have had NO problems on any of the motorcycles I have owned except the Harley. It was the worst Bike I have owned, an 83 1000 cc Roadster. It left me stranded, coughed and belched all the time, vibrated so bad I could not see. But, it was the best looking motorcycle I think I ever had, although that was not very long. My point is I like motorcycles, all motorcycles. I think most of here do as well. If someone has a problem with a bike, then the service sucks to boot, it can't help but leave a bad taste in your mouth. I would not even consider looking at a sportster until they rubber-mounted the engine, added a gear,and put the belt drive on, But I still don't think I would want one. As for the Buell sportbike thing, I personally don't like "true Sportbikes" as I feel they have no use on the street. The XB fits a nice niche, a sportbike style, great handling, good usable torque, and just plain fun to ride. It's different, and I really like that. I would also like to add by the way, that I can't think of one dealer that I can say had any kind of service department to brag about. All of the motorcycle dealer service departments I have delt with have problems. The Two I deal with now, Frederick, and Battlefield have been the best. | ||
| Steve_mackay |
Yup, 'dem Buells sure suck all right! That's why I could barely get a minute to even get a drink leadin' Hal's Buell demo rides. Had every type of rider you could imagine at Hals on Saturday, Everything from your standard HD guy, to sport bike guys, to hardcore Beemer riders. I didn't have a single person say "it sucks". They all loved the handling/torque. Most, if not all commented on how fun they were. A LOT of pre-concieved notions abolished Saturday!  If you're unhappy about your ride, dump it on someone else and quite whining. | ||
| Norrisperformance |
Here’s something else to chew on, American jobs. Over the years I watched machine shop after machine shop fold up because of the NAFTA free trade agreement and cheap labor in other countries. And it can get worse if we don’t stand up and say something. http://www.stoptheftaa.org/default.html I know I’m guilty of buying import stuff also, and I’m not proud of it, and I know that not all of the Buell is not manufactured in the U.S.A . If it was completely made in the U.S.A, the price would be so high I couldn’t own one. But your still helping America more than you would buying a rice burner. Import tax needs to be raise high enough to stop the loss of our jobs in America. And kill all this free trade ••••! Just my two cents, as an American.  | ||
| Nevar |
It *may* not be as reliable as a Japanese bike but I don't care. Nevar, Ya lost me here pal, What exactly did ya mean by that as I know many squid drivers with major crank , clutch plms etc.etc =========================== I said *may* because I don't have any real reliability stats on "Buell vs Super Hawk", or "Buell vs ZX6R", etc. Do you have some reliability stats to share? And not something like "my friends on Jap bikes have more problems". Tim (Message edited by nevar on May 16, 2005) | ||
| Got1nut |
who cares what others think. or what beats what. I just ride the damn thing. |
