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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if both bikes were set up the same...tires/shocks/springs/etc...same track conditions..
the same rider..
would one have a advantage over the other?
track and street.

JT
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

O, and same motor/trans set-up.


JT
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are you refering to a stock S2 motor and a Stock S3 motor? or motors set up to be equal in power?
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

equal in power
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Then in honesty I would say they would be very close to the same. IIRC they are the same wheelbase, rake and trail, the main differences are the fairings, the frame plates on the S2 and the fact that stock the S2 comes with a stock Sportster engine.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

S-2 had the better front forks,multi adjustable.Sat more in an S-2,up on an S-3.
Henrik should chime in here as he had had both.
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Then i would think the S2 would also have a lower center of gravity...

T
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Henrik
Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You sit more *in* an S2 than the S3. I had my S3 set up with a lenght adjustable Penske shock, and as such, it turned a bit quicker than my S2. But it's not quite a fair comparison. I also don't ride my S2 as hard as I did my S3, which I took on track a few times. I guess I'd say they handle pretty equally with maybe a bit of an advantage to the S3. The S2 however is quite cabable of keeping plenty pace for the street.

As far as feel, I like the ride of the S2 much better - such a sweet bike.

Henrik
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Lornce
Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well.... I've got my S2 T-Stormed and race piped (thanks Fireman :-) and though a tad heavier I'll give it the edge over the S3 by virtue of it's more capable fork and more highly mounted footpegs. The thing is remarkably unflappable. Not *such* a big deal on the street, but on the track you'd appreciate the higher pegs immediately.

Having said that, I must admit to only ever riding the S1 on the track, not the S2 or S3.

But the thing I really appreciate about the S2 is what must be the finest and most effecive rearview mirrors in all of motorcycling. I'm serious. Well, maybe not the order of priority. : D

ymmv,
Lawrence

(Message edited by lornce on May 08, 2005)
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Imeazy
Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But the thing I really appreciate about the S2 is what must be the finest and most effecive rearview mirrors in all of motorcycling. I'm serious.

Really I had nothing but problems with mine. No matter what I tried they did nothing but fall down. Thought they were worthless and went with barends.
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Rex
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 12:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

S-2. The S-2 is definitely one you ride in, vrs. on. The S-2 to me if a bike you get on and ride and hang on. It seems to be the one that takes the path, and you just hang on loosely and let it do its work.

S-3, M-2. Very neutral bikes. Handles great. I think you do most of the work on these bikes. they go where you want them to go.

Don't know if this makes sense or not. Does to me. I have tried flicking the S-2 like I do my M-2...Doesn't seem to react that way. it seems to know the right way. Thanks, REX
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I forgot about the difference in Fork adjustability, my bad : )
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