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Buell_rider_2003
Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i have seen some cool rear swing arm stands in pics on this site where can i get one and how much???? thanks
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave S can get them

Pit Bull are worth the bucks - BUT the XB needs a wider-than-normal stand to grab the swingarm.

You can spread the stand open if you have a really strong buddy who can pull it open a bit.

I use a spool-type stand and it's much more stable than the type that lifts the arm directly. Dave S can set you straight.

I think there might be somebody making sliders for the swingarm that are lathe-cut for spool-type lifts (if not, there SHOULD be!)
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Daves
Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the wide models in stock.
Badweb price is 116.10
I will be back at work on Tuesday after 10 am
1-866-757-1651
ask for Dave in sales!
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

(by the way, I paid MORE than what Dave is asking and I got a pretty good discount.) Retail on those babies is close to $150 if I remember
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Loki
Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just picked up a set of the Bob Dron stands off of ebay. Multi-versitle they are.
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just for grins, I emailed Dark Horse Moto (the Badweb sponsor) - and they can and do make swingarm sliders that are cut to fit spool stands.

Spool stands are much more stable than stands that lift directly on the swingarm.
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Buell_rider_2003
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

cool slaughter let me know thanks
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Slaughter
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They indeed do have them - you can email them at their sponsor banner here via Badweb. The pic he sent me looks a bit to nice for a racebike but would be great looking for a streetbike.

If you look at their pic of the swingarm sliders posted on this site, add maybe 1 inch and a groove and you'll get the picture.

They IMMEDIATELY responded to my email. Always a good sign in my book! Hit him up at the address below (remove the spaces)

dark horse moto at earth link dot net

(Message edited by slaughter on April 26, 2005)
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Chainsaw
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How do you remove the rear wheel when the spooled swingarm sliders fit in the rear axle?
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Dsergison
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you remove them.... they have a piece of threaded rod that runs trough the axle and you just screw the two sliders on the rod.
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Chainsaw
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 09:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I understand the swing arm sliders are removable.

Let me clarify: If the spooled sliders attached to your axle are removed, how do you use a spooled stand to raise the rear of the bike in order to remove the rear wheel?
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Dsergison
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hmm. telekenesis? : )

you don't : (
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Charlieboy6649
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You put the stand on the front and use a jack and a block of wood under the rear swingarm...

Works for me...
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Honu
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the Pit Bull front and rear stands, with the adjustable rear it fits and lifts the from the swingarm no problem, it is a tight fit but it works great. Ordered them from Dave over a year ago.
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Chainsaw
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you don't
That's the answer I was looking for. In that case, glad I just ordered the non-spool type Pit Bull from Dave. I thought I was missing out on something! : )
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Chainsaw
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...as long as we are talking stands, any tips for the novice (such as myself) for getting the bike up on the rear stand? Do I start with it on the kickstand? Do I need 2 people?

Any "do's and don'ts" would be appreciated! : )
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Henrik
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Start with the bike on the kickstand. Put the rear stand in position by the rear wheel. Then, standing at the rear of the bike, push it upright using your left hand/arm. I usually try to wrap my arm around the tail section. Now with your right hand you roll the stand into position with the swingarm supports square with the swingarm. Gradually put more pressure on the rear stand handle, while you gradually let go of the bike with your left. Now with the bike supported by the stand you can use both hands to fully lift the rear.

The scary and tricky thing is getting the bike off the side stand and onto the rear stand without it tipping to the right = you're going to dump it ... ; )

Have a buddy spot you the first few times until you get the technique down. Then you'll be fine.

Edit; make sure your front wheel is not cocked to the left. straighten up the bars before you put the bike on the rear stand. Not a big no-no, but it does make the last step of lifting the bike easier, when the front of the bike stays straight rather than begin rolling to the right.

Henrik

(Message edited by Henrik on April 27, 2005)
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Chainsaw
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Henrik!
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Kelly
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know a guy that refuses to put a bike on a stand by himself.

I just plunk the stand under it, straighten it up and lift. No biggie....

I'd like a spool stand, but dont want to weld on my swingarm... what are my options?
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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Chainsaw:

What Henrik said is correct. Setting the rear stand when the bike is on the kickstand works just hunky-dory. Just DON'T HURRY (Yes, I'm shouting - I tipped my bike over in the pits putting it on the stand solo - we have no kickstands)

By the way, you can get a Pit Bull adapter for a little extra that will work with both the spools and flip it over and it works under the swingarm. Best of both worlds. Bolts to the top of the stand. You can order just the top piece separately (ask Dave about it) - or if you are ordering the stand new - just get the dual-type stand. (Hope this link work to Pit Bull - it has the description and a pic)

http://www.pit-bull.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23_178&products_id=33&osC sid=0d9e022feda80d58cdd94a2ad99ffc69

(the prices on the Pit Bull website are suggested retail - Dave S can cut you a better deal)

Also, be VERY careful if lifting from the forks and then not using a rear stand. The fork stand really is terribly unstable. You should have the rear end secure BEFORE lifting from the forks. If the steering turns, you're going to hear a loud, expensive noise as your pride and joy tips over.

(Message edited by slaughter on April 30, 2005)
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Typeone
Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I couldn't afford a Pit Bull back when I bought my swingarm stand, so I picked up a cheapo Lockhart Phillips universal (see profile for pic) and it still works for my XB too. Just need to flip the spring to the outside to get the proper width. I think its probably about 4 years old now and still works/looks great.

I use the Henrik method to lift as well. Just be patient and it becomes second nature.
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