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Scoobysnack
Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As title says, noticed today when comparing it to some other XB12S's. The circular clips are showing, with forks are about inch dropped. Ride seems great.

Anyone discuss or comment?

Cheers

J
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Buelltroll
Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I halfway think my forks have gotten lower this year.
Just a comment.
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe need to stop real quick one day. Maybe front tire hit engine case or chin fairing. Maybe not so good for rider or bike.

Wait, are you saying the forks have been extended/dropped/lengthened or retracted/lifted/shortened? Raising the forks an entire inch would be unheard of for me. That would be way radical and would likely cause tire rubbing engine problems.

If you are indeed talking about dropping the forks down in the clamps, then maybe no big problem as long as the upper clam has enough meat to grab onto.

Can you post a photograph of your bike's upper triple clamp area?
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did you lower the forks down so the top of the fork tube is flush with the top of the triple? or did you take them the other way?

If you raised them one inch as in the top of the fork tube now resides 1 inch higher above the triple then it did before, I highly whole heartedly, vehemently, SCREAMINGLY suggest you totally rethink that move as I have been there and chose to totally revert back to stock height.

If you moved them so the top of the fork tube is flush with the triple, then you have slowed the steering and lessened the steepness of the rake. A much safer move : )
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Buelltroll
Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just think I blew (and/or they are slowly leaking n sagging)((or I'm just trippin n nothing has changed))my seals from one too many times up.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Or maybe you gained some weight?

You "blew your seals"? hehehehe Reminds me of a joke about an eskimo and his snowmobile.
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Buelltroll
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 01:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Same weight as always,dont even know for sure if anythings changed.
I have only gotten to ride 2 or 3 times this year so far this year.
just SEEMS too look a LITTLE lower in the front end n seems KINDA pillowy in the front and about to wash out in the rear into n through turns,But then again I SEVERELY needed a new tire for all 2 or 3 rides so it could just have been that.

(Message edited by buelltroll on April 18, 2005)
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Scoobysnack
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 05:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've only had the bike a short while and it was like it when I got it. I noticed this when out on
the UK Buell meet yesterday : )





Take a look at the top piece of the forks, near the headstock and you will see the ring showing. So it seems to me that the forks have been lowered about 1 inch through the stock.


So this slows turn in but increases stability . any other reasons : )

Cheers

J
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Clearance for a set of Crossroads bars the owner may have removed. Many don't return the forks back to stock after tightening everything down with the Crossrads. That ring you speak of is the limiter ring for how far up through the triples the forks can be raised.
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Scoobysnack
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ah.... it does have Renthal bars on from the previous owner..... : )

J
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Rigga
Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 04:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

scooby........... that might well be the reason,the bend of the renthal bars might be different to the stock bars which sit very close to the preload adjusters on top of the forks... he may have lowered them to gain more clearance,i know the lsl bars ive fitted are very close
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Trojan
Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 04:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi Scooby,
I know the previous owner of this bike, and there was nothing fitted that necessitated dropping the forks through the clamps like that. Dropping them by that much must have seriously changed the handling and I would think that direction changes must now be pretty slow. I think I would put them back to the stock position and see how it feels then: )
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Surveyor
Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you lower the front end (ie drop the front ride height) you will speed up the steering but front end stability suffers and you may end up fitting a steering damper. I have done this (for the track) and I reverted to the original position. If you raise the front ride height you will slow the steering which is already hard work. Hope this helps.
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Enigma
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 04:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had to lower the forks to fit the steering damper, not noticed any real difference in turn in.
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Surveyor
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's hard to see from your photo but it looks like you dropped the forks (raised the front ride height) It's hard to see why you need to fit a steering damper if that is the case, as the bike is (in my experience, and again this is track based) very stable at the stock (front end) ride height. I would imagine that raising the front ride height combined with fitting a steering damper must make turn in an absolute b*tch.
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Enigma
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No, still very stable tho now the better weathers here have noticed it's a little bit slower to turn in. If i fitted a 120/60 front instead of 120/70 would this work?

Thx
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