| Author | Message | ||
     Wyckedflesh |
 BMW's new dualsport the HP2 as Mottorrad reported (info taken from another board with broken links to the article sorry) | ||
| Peter |
                                                       (Message edited by peter on April 15, 2005) | ||
| Danvetc |
Sweet, but very expensive! Charlie | ||
| Ray_maines |
and big. and heavy. I guess I just haven't caught the vision, but if I wanted to go fishing I'd buy a Jeep and if I wanted to ride in the dirt I'd get a dirt bike. I just don't see the advantage of this sort of bike. Nice color on the frame though. | ||
| Xlcrguy |
Schweet! Clean and simple design, regular front end, bash plates and bracing where needed. If it wasn't priced "significantly higher" than a regualr GS, I would definitely buy one when available. That thing looks bitchin'! The GS is already outa my price range...Bummer. Hats off to BMW. | ||
| Buellerthanyou |
If that isn't my S2 frame in Nuclear Blue, I'm a Monkee's Uncle! Michael NesBuelly  "Fasten your seat belt, it's going to be a bumpy..." --HellBette Davis | ||
| Blake |
Ray, Come on man, it's simple. It is a very competent long range road bike that can also take to the dirt roads, jeep trails and logging paths and do quite well. It is called "dual sport." Lots of manufacturers market them. | ||
| Ray_maines |
Blake: I guess. But I still don't really get it. A bike that isn't really very good on the street or in the dirt just doesn't appeal to me. I'll bet that if you fitted some sort of "Universal" tread tires to a M2 it would be almost as good off road and 10 times better on road than the way over priced BMW. Jack the suspension on the M2 and it beats the Beemer in the dirt too. But hey, that's just MHO. What do I know? (Message edited by Ray_Maines on April 15, 2005) | ||
| Cyclonemick |
Buells as they stand would suck off road there is not alot of shock clearance/muffler. | ||
| Smokedaddy |
Outstanding images! -SD: | ||
| Dino |
A bike that isn't really very good on the street Ray - Have you ridden an R1200GS on the street? | ||
| Blake |
I hear ya. But if you want to ride dirt roads and the asphalt to get to them, kind of a do-it-all cross country adventure touring bike, that is THE machine to have, or actually the plain ol' R1200GS. The one above does seem to be even more oriented to the off-road scene. Since I first saw one, I've wanted one. Hey, the BadWeB Calendar had a pic of a Buell off-roader. (shameless plug, still a few left) ![: ]](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/proud.gif) | ||
| Rex |
cool looking bike....Is that a Buell S-2 sidestand though? ahhaha. REX | ||
| Phatkidwit1eye |
Tell BMW my X1 wants it's body work back. | ||
| Stou |
A bike that isn't really very good on the street GS are really good street bike. I'm more concern on the trail riding side. I used to do motocross race and trail riding and I don't see myself jumping and riding a GS in rough trail like the pictures above. If they reduce the weight of the GS enough to do this kind of trail riding, BMW did a miracle!!! | ||
| Xring |
Are those fender braces? Or a ram-air inducted front fork? I must be used to looking at Buells, 'cause this thing looks like it has a lot of rake. A dual-sport chopper? I like it, though. Thanks for the pics. Bill | ||
| Rokoneer |
Apparently BMW saw my Monster GS and decided that they needed to follow suit. You're welcome BMW, you're welcome....   | ||
| Stou |
Hey Rokoneer, nice bike! How is it working on the trail? | ||
| Ingemar |
A bike that isn't really very good on the street or in the dirt just doesn't appeal to me. Exactly my mind. It's either one or the other. | ||
| Dino |
As I recall, in Cycle World's 2004 article choosing the "world's best street bike", the R1200GS came in a fraction of a heartbeat out of first place, beating out every dedicated streetbike in the test but one. Not bad for a bike that is "really not very good on the street". Looks like this bike takes the GS and carves a whole lot of two-up touring weight off to aim the bike much more at off-road. Remains to be seen whether that had a significant effect on its street prowess. Doesn't really make any difference to me, the wife just looked over my shoulder and stated, "No, you can't have one." | ||
| Rick_a |
I like the old R80G/S. The new versions have been over engineered, over built, and over weight...and damn they're ugly. | ||
| Nedwreck |
Too rich for my wallet, too tall for my arse. Two strikes, yer out! Bob | ||
| Jeremyh |
BMW? I GUESS WERE ARE NO LONGER BUELL LOVERS! | ||
| Court |
>>>I GUESS WERE ARE NO LONGER BUELL LOVERS! Inaccurate statement, at least in my case. I have a BMW sitting between 2 Buells here before me. Each has their place. The F650 was bought for it's ability to be lowered and for it's luggage capacity. It excels with the caveats that it is expensive and handles quite strange when lowered. The R1200GS is a awesome bike. It has tons of torque, handles superbly and is a capable multi-role fighter. I was treated to seat time on an R1150GS and the time they were released and was really impressed. It is, however, a $17,000+ motorcycle and in my current mindset that's TWO CityX (one lowered please) and insurance for 2 years. Choices...... | ||
| Ted |
nice mirrors !  | ||
| Newfie_buell |
All I can say is that it look very nice!!! As the owner of Tube Frame S1 and a 1990 DR650 (kick start only model) each bike has its merits. I have to say that the DR is still too heavy for major jumping compared to a 250cc motocross bike but I am at the point where I don't need to be hanging off the bars doing crazy stunts. The DR is a very capable off road machine as I am sure the above pictured BMW is. As for a street bike the DR is a great machine as well, as long as your not trying to scrape the pegs on asphalt. I call my DR the "Urban Assault Vehicle" as it don't care about pot holes, dirt on the asphalt or any other minor debris. You just drive over whatever is in the way, including small cars, children, animals, etc, etc, etc....... The S1 on the other hand would ultimately SUCK off road as would any other Buell model, its much too heavy and too low to be doing any sort of off road riding. Which one did I take today? I took the S1 as I am at work!!!! Which one did I ride yesterday - the DR650 as I was in the mood to play in the mud, despite the fact I was gone for about two hours I only travelled about 50km off road - but was it ever a fulfilling ride. | ||
| Steve_a |
>>Not very good on the street << Adventure tourers can make awesome street bikes. They're comfortable, and the combination of a motocross riding position and great ground clearance make them really, really fast on tight roads. It's my favorite motorcycle category, and this GS-HP2 looks really cool. However, there's a real trade-off in suspension travel for heavy off-road and street usability. Unless you're planning to catch some serious air or do true off-road riding, I'd vote for suspension travel in the 6 to 8 inch range. |
