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Koz5150
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



Velva Ride® Vibration Control System by V-Thunder®
Reduces transmitted engine vibration by up to 50% and provides the comfort needed for all-day rides.
Velva Ride® Engine Stabilizers
Stainless steel body contains a stainless steel plunger encased in specially-formulated urethane that significantly out performs stock stabilizers.When installed on rubber mount models, the engine is completely isolated from the frame by eliminating all metal-to-metal contact. Complete with rod ends and available with a plain finish or polished bodies and rod ends. For all rubber-mounted 5-speed models 1980 to present, and all Buell® models 1991 to present. Replaces OEM 16219-79A.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do NOT use that front mount on Buells. They won't hold up. Tat added them once to the catalog, sold a few, failures started coming in, killed the product. Happened before me buying American Sport Bike, I don't have direct experience with it other than what he told me. But I'm not adding them.

The last thing you want to do is change the lateral heim joint links from fixed to flexy.

Al
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't know about anyone else but the whole vibration thing is what makes a Buell a Buell!!!!
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Rek
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Vibration? Buells vibrate? How come no one ever told me this before.

Rob
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The swingarm is connected to the engine. The engine needs to be mounted EXACTLY as Buell engineered it to be. The bike isn't the best handling production bike in the world by accident...
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Rick_a
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Vibration...I was stuck in 5-10 mph traffic for almost an hour. It felt real weird getting off the bike after that. I was still tingling all over.

Just keep her above 3G!
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ride a '70 Sportster and see what 5-10MPH does to ya after a couple of hours(did the '95th HD anniversary ride). You're GLAD to get off of it at that point : )

My wife had it much worse though. Since there is only a solo seat, and a "pee pad" on the rear fender for her to sit : )
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Firemanjim
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 03:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tried the tie bars several years back--they actually shifted the resonance point of vibrations making them seem worse .Took em right back off and sold em to a HD guy.
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Buelluk
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can't say the vibration on my nine has ever bothered me ,at least I know it's still running !
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Twowheeldream
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just got my 97 S3 back from the dealership for the recalls: swingarm/shock/shockmount/kickstand switch/flasher relay/fuel breather/front engine mount

You want to talk about vibration!!!

the D washer that fits over the rubber mount moved when the tech torqued the bolt and the washer transfered all engine vibrations straight through the steering head to the handle bars... dig into the throttle and it felt like a jackhammer.

Tech said he didnt feel anything, but i told him i could and something wasnt right.... he took another look at it and found the washer had spun just enough to make contact with the steering head.

other than that little bug, having to wait 4 days, and the tech waiting untill after i bring the bike back for the vibrations to tell me he thinks my front end felt loose, and that the front rotor might be warped.... it was an ok experience. i mean hey, i got a buncha stuff for free... Glad i had 50 bucks on me to cover new rear pads and installation i wasnt planning on, but desperately needed. Sorry American Sport Bike... was planning on buying pads from you and installing it myself
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Leftcoastal
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 01:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had that front mount on my RS when I got it. It was installed at around 10,000 mi. according to prior owner. It was deformed junk by 13,000 = the center hole was elongated off=center by about 1/2 inch, and the bike shook and rattled badly. I had to re-align everything when I replaced it.I DO have the cushioned stabilizer bars on my Harley and they have been trouble free for 8 years. I wouldn't recommend them for a Buell though, as there is likely a lot more stresses put on the units due to different riding style.
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Koz5150
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the info... I will keep my current mounts... I had to replace the top mount once, I did see that Custom Chrome (I think) sells a Polyurythane (spelling???) replacement. Might try that if I loose another front top mount.
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That Custom Chrome front mount is no different than the Velva Ride mount. It's no good.

What I've done is use aluminum travel limiting bushings in all three rubber mounts. It moves the "smooth zone" about 1000 rpm up but it really gives you improved chassis feedback. The rear end no longer feels vague and flexy and the bike feels more solid overall.
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The only downside is that my tail light bulbs self destruct regularly and I've had to use a custom made tail light and plate holder to deal with the vibes back there.
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Suaverider
Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hello,
I need a similar type of fastener. Does anyone know what these types of linkages are called. I don't need engine isolators (way too expensive) but I do need something like these for a different application. I'm sure there is a name for this type of linkage in different sizes and strength.

Any help appreciated.
Thanks
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