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Abelriv
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I recently bought a 99 S3, I noticed the second time I took it out, it was whining a bit. I am concerned about the trans lube, can someone please tell me what to look for and how to fill it? I have read the threads on oils and lubes, but I am not clear which of those covers come off to inspect. I took off the small cover behind the shifter leg, and I can see no oil in there. I see the primary chain on the bottom and it is a little wet, but not swimming in it.

I'd appreciate any help.
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Marks3tbillet
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you take off the larger cover,(about7 inches in diameter) you'll see the clutch. The oil level should just come to level of the bottom side of it. There is a picture of this in the owner's manual and service manual. Capacity is either 24 or 32 oz. I can't remember.
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Abelriv
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 09:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks

Im on it first thing. I guess I should just plan on dropping the exhaust and draining it out to replace it all.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It may be a good idea to remove the primary cover entirely and inspect the tensioner shoe for the primary chain.

Check this link and peruse the archives...

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/4010.html?1111245685
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Carguyinok
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like a good time for for your gear oil change. Just get the bike warm. Put the front tire higher then the rear and pull the oil plug under the motor. Let her sit for a good long time. The oil in there can take a LONG time to drain out. The drain plug is also magnetic so if your getting damage you will see metal on your drain plug.
Put your plug back in and drop the front wheel back down. Now pull the side cover & add your new lube till its about to run out. You can use the harley gear case lube or syn. 20-50. NOT REG. 20-50 oil.
Use care when pulling the clutch cover and you may not need a new gasket.
I would say try this for the cost of 2 QT of oil and see if the noise is gone.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The capacity of the primary case is supposed to be 28 ounces, not 2 quarts (64 oz).

If you don't pull your cover, at least make sure you adjust the primary chain tensioner.
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Hodakaguy
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I second removing the primary cover and checking to see if you have the updated primary chain tensioner installed. I just removed mine last week and found the old style tensioner cracked but not broken yet. It's a real easy job to do and can save you lots of money and time if you catch it before it breaks. While your in there also check to see if you have the new style shift Detent plate or not, its a $3.00 part and is very easy to install while your in there. Just type in Shift Detent in the search and you'll find lots of info on it. Hodakaguy
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Carguyinok
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

(The capacity of the primary case is supposed to be 28 ounces, not 2 quarts (64 oz). )
I was only saying what to have on hand. Not add a full two QT's LOL.
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Phat_j
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the capacity of the primary is SUPPOSED TO BE 1 quart (32 oz.) but most have had better luck with 28. but infact if its whining, odds are the chain is too tight. check that first. it should be able to move up and down (at the tightest spot) aprox the distance of one chain. so push it all the way down and then back up, if the bottom dosent come close to where the top was, then its too tight.
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Abelriv
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got the cover off and there was oil in there. I did drop the can and drain it anyway. Put in Synthetic 75-90 gear oil. I removed the little ispection cover from behind the shift leg, I could not get in to pull the chain though. Problem now is my exhaust is crap, I would like an aftermarket pipe, but I like the stock sound just fine.

My brother has had harleys for years, said that there could be aftermarket cams in there, that they whine a little also?

Bike runs great, I was just worried.

After I find a replacement pipe, I'll get it out and see, if the whine continues, I'll pull the primary cover. Have to ride the Triumph for a bit then.

Thanks everyone for all the help. . . .BTW, got a service manual off Ebay, that should help a bit.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Try Mobil 1 75/90 gear lube.
Other than smelling awful, it really helps shifting.
Many have used it with great success.
I run it in all 3 of my Buell's.
Do not overfill the gear case, it will spit out.
28-30 oz max.

I will 3rd the chain tensioner check.
The tensioner is about $15 or so, the gasket about the same (new style metal type, not the old paper style).
It is well worth the peace of mind knowing your tensioner isn't cracked.
If you have the old style tensioner and it's not cracked, it will be soon.
There is a reason they changed the design - the old one breaks!!
It can and does make funny sounds and irratic shifting when they crack.
If it is cracked and someone has retensioned the chain, it is probably too tight.
As mentioned earlier, that will cause whining.

Good luck!

Brad
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