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Sleez
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 04:03 pm: | 
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i have a question concerning the pro series CF air cleaner. when i bought the bike, it had a chrome ham can in place of the CF cover, with a short 1 7/8" element, i got new stand offs, the correct 3 inch element and the correct CF cover. Here is the problem; with the two screws tightened as tight as i am willing to tighten them, there is not much clamping force on the element. i can pull it away (at the rear, front is ok) from the backing plate with slight pressure with my fingernail, and see the opening to the carb. seems if i can do that, then air will suck right through and all it's little dust/dirt particles will bypass the element all together!
it can be pulled away about .040, i'd guess, didn't take the calipers to it!
my thoughts are; adding some sealant (RTV) on each end of the element on the rubber gasket or maybe some type of weather stripping.
any suggestions??? |
Bomber
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 04:38 pm: |
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shorten the standoffs a touch? the CF cover is flexi, a bit . . . . . . |
Oldog
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 05:04 pm: |
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what about some sticky back foam strips and a little grease?
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Sleez
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 05:08 pm: |
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sticky foam strips are on my short list, only worried they may dry out and crumble into the carb, melt, morph into some type of super hard synthetic cutting tools and rip my pistons/rods/crank to shreads!
someone must have seen this before?
note: the old filter element had a raised gasket ring on one end, new one doesn't. |
Josh_
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 12:22 pm: |
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Can you post pic of old a new setups? What kind of chrome cover fits with the off-center backing plate?
I'd make sure to measure the standoffs and the filter and make sure the standoffs are a touch shorter.
Was the old gasket an open oval like the K&N? |
Sleez
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 12:39 pm: |
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the chrome cover was a regular sporty type rigged to only utilize one stand off, one of the reasons for changing it. the new stand offs are the correct length for the 3" filter, the cover compresses nearly all the way to the standoff, the front of the filter, where the front stand off is closer, is nice and secure! the old filter was a K&N, it just has a slightly different gasket on one end.
i'll try to post a pic today.
(Message edited by sleez on March 18, 2005) |
Sleez
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 01:30 pm: |
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here are the pics of the "old" setup;
top, notice the rounded, raised ridge!
bottom, both sides of the new element (p/n P1213.G)look like this.
cover, the left mounting hole had a screw into a shortened "floating" standoff |
Jammer
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 08:45 pm: |
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Hey Sleez,
Two days ago I mounted a buell race air cleaner on my 97 S3. I bought it off of Ebay for $160 it was new in the box. Anyway I cranked the screws all the way down to the standoffs, i was concerned that the CF cover was going to crack but it didn't and it fits pretty snug. Not as snug as in the front mind you but snug enough. No? |
Sleez
| | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 11:31 am: |
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Hey Jammer,
my concern is with how the filter sits on the mounting bracket at the rear, i can pull the element away from the bracket with very little effort. this would give an easy path for unfiltered air straight to the carb, if it can be pulled away that easy, it will invariably vibrate away??? plus, it begs the question, if the top of the element is basically flat and the inside of the CF cover is basically rounded, how good of a seal is there at that point???
(Message edited by sleez on March 21, 2005) |
Ksjms2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 02:32 am: |
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Just installed a Forcewinder XR2 on my 2001 X1 made just for F.I Buell's. Well everything went together good except I don't know what to do with the intake sensor?? Do I cut it, just strap it to the frame, or find a way to mount it in the filter?? Any help would be great!! |
Jackbequick
| | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 08:54 pm: |
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I'm looking at the K&N RC-2000 filter to replace the airbox/filter on my 2000 M2.
http://knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=RC-2000
Looks like there will be enough room and I've had good luck with K&N on cars and trucks. Has anyone used one of these on a Buell?
Jack |
Ara
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 10:48 am: |
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Jack,
I've been running a K&N that fits inside the standard airbox of my S3 for quite a few years now. Good results. I haven't used that particular setup, though. I live where we get 60 inches of rain a year and I prefer the air filter to be protected from rainfall.
Russ |
Buellistic
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 01:31 pm: |
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Ara:
Have a 97S3T and been running the same set up too !!!
In Buelling
LaFayette |
Ara
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 04:21 pm: |
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Buellistic,
We ought to compare notes on our intake and breather setups. I've got an interesting breather arrangement in which I made Tee-fittings out of the stock breather fittings and oriented the tees vertically. Hoses from the top part of the tees run to a double-sided breather filter. Hoses from the bottom side of the tees run to individual catch tubes with drain fittings at the lower end. The best part is that it works. The worst part is that front catch tube is inside the airbox. Meet me at seriousfun3@yahoo.com
Russ |
Jackbequick
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 04:28 pm: |
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Hmmm, rain. I'm retired and don't have to go out every day. And I probably wouldn't intentionally ride on a rainy day but stuff happens...
Maybe one of the aftermarket Sportster style housings that wrap back over would be better and I can find one that K&N makes a filter for.
I'm not looking for more flow or power so between that and the Forcewinder being out in the open like it is I'm not inclined to consider it.
Jack |
Buellistic
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 11:09 pm: |
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Ara:
E-MAIL on the way !!!
In BUELLing
LaFayette |
Iamike
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 10:54 pm: |
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After perusing the thread I can't find any comparison of the filtering comparison of the stock and K& N units.
The reason I ask is that on another board people swear that the paper element stops more dirt due to the smaller size holes in the media than the K&N that claims it passes more air.
Have there been any test of the two? My guess is that the oil in the cloth catches the particles that would otherwise pass. |
Bluzm2
| | Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 12:09 am: |
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Mike,
As far as I can remember, that's the theory.
K&N's work better (flow more air) the dirtier they get.. up to a certain point.
The oil is the key.
I've seen tests somewhere but I cant recall where.
I'll see if I can dig it up..
Brad |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 07:38 am: |
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I think it was Bomber or Road thing that posted something about it that gave me a good laugh... the stock paper filters stop most visible particulate matter. The K&N filters stop nearly all mammals. |
Rick_a
| | Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 12:51 pm: |
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As I remember the oil/foam filters stop the most junk but flow the worst, the oil/gauze flow best but filter worst, and the paper is in between. |
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