| Author | Message | ||
     Mutt2jeff |
This thing rocks!!  I want! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4534065011&ca tegory=49982 | ||
| Mutt2jeff |
oops, never mind. I bet it does awesome wheelies too! (Message edited by mutt2jeff on March 11, 2005) | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
The Pro Series has a deeper tone and may be the quietest aftermarket exhaust, but it does a nice job of setting off car alarms. The White Brothers, stock, makes it definitely sound like a thumper dirtbike but given the tunability factor the sound (& loudness) can vary greatly (FYI: The WB is 'race only' because of its reliability issues, also discontinued-you are now officially warned!) | ||
| Rockbiter1 |
My wife scared off several "big bad harley riders" at a bike show last year with the pro series pipe...they were at a light, reving thier engines, making alot of noise, so we rolled up behind them, and she rolled on the throttle..our little one-lung wonder put them all to shame..VROOM! MUAHAHAHAHAHA | ||
| Naustin |
zero2blast - I'm impressed with your models! Do you do this kind of thing for a living? Ralph- If the cowl was aluminum for example, it could act like the fins on the cylinder jug or a radiator. It might absorb heat away from the exhaust and the header pipe and help dissapate it. Assuming it was in direct contact with the exhaust. Even if it did trap heat and cause the exhaust to be hotter, it's already extreemly hot, and the increase in temprature would probably be insignificant compared to the normal operating temprature it would experience anyway. | ||
| Zero2blast |
"Do you do this kind of thing for a living?" -nah, I just do it as a hobby - although it would be nice to make some money, lol (I'd post a pic of my concept car - but its off topic and not buell related) -with the new insight into the *cough* actual shape of the pro series exhaust I'm thinking something smaller that uses the mounting location at the front of the pro series setup that maybe just comes out the front and wraps about 1/2 way up the sides -I've also been working on a custom motorcycle 3D model since christmas time (intended to be totally different - boxer twin engine, dual headlights, sport bike exhaust & brakes, raked front end and of course beautiful lines) I had hoped to have the model done by now - but like everything else its becoming way too complex and taking way long to complete -  | ||
| Mutt2jeff |
The blast in its latest incarnation. I am experimenting with a Satin Black finish. I like it  . You can view my adventure of the day in the My Home Town section. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/6817/102812.html?1110854761  (Message edited by mutt2jeff on March 14, 2005) | ||
| Ezblast |
Blasting adventures - always a good thing! GT - JBOTDS! EZ  | ||
| Ralphthe3rd |
Naustin, I totally understand the principle behind a "Heat Sink", as in fins etc. But I would think that trapping MORE heat under the motor/tranny area where it would be rising, and bathing the underparts in even more heat....would NOT be a Good thing !? IF a cowl surrounding the exhaust was 360 degrees around it, then that would be a different matter, but I don't believe there is room for that. As a matter of my own opinion, one of the sore points that have always bothered me, about the Buell designs. Was the under engine exhaust, I just hate heat rising and bathing the engine. As it is, when the engine is running in traffic it gets mighty HOT as it is ! But channeling even more heat around it's bottomside and allowing it to rise..... Ahhhh....no thanks ! I always preferred metric bikes with the exhaust along the sides, and never liked the cross under connectors, or the expansion boxes. And when I used to switch to a header on my multi cyl metric bikes, I did hate that most headers went directly under the engine (for max cornering clearance). But this is just me, and my opinions  Actually, one of the cooler(no pun intended) innovations of recent times, is the under tail exhaust. It's tucked out of the way, so crashes usually don't harm the system, and although some systems still have parts of the header under the motor, at the least the designs on twins don't have many pipes-and pipes don't retain heat as much as Steel Cans do ! (Steel cans as in OEM Buell Mufflers) Yeah -yeah, now I'm going to get a lecture on center of gravity and centralized MASS !  | ||
| Newblaster |
Having the can under there just helps the tranny warm up, leading to fewer missed 1st-2nd shifts. Okay, okay, probably not.  | ||
| Zero2blast |
Well I haven't touched this drawing much since last year (still doesn't have a lot of detail), but I decided to try some ideas I had regarding a monochromatic look, maybe a phantom blast or perhaps stealth? Let me know what you think  I also did a little bit of work on the smaller front spoiler, and it appears as though it may not interfere much with the exhaust itself (probably won't wrap around the header or canisters) but it will however likely be made out of metal due to heat issues | ||
| Burnmyheartdown |
Ralph, wouldn't more surface area give better heat dissipation though? That's what I was thinking, the only place I can see it being ugly is sitting in traffic on a hot day...... | ||
| Ralphthe3rd |
Burnmyheartdown, Yeah....more surface area- in like there were Cylinder Cooling fins on it! Actually, one flat/smooth surface is not the ideal way to dissipate heat, especially since only one side will be exposed to cooling air. Try this little experiment: On a hot summer day, go outside in the sun and sit in a metal box without ventilation and bring a space heater in with you. Then tell me how much cooler it is in there, than if you were sitting with that same space heater, in an open sided Gazebo !? Btw- bring some eggs to fry on the roof of that metal box, but be quick, as they are apt to burn FAST ! | ||
| Newblaster |
On the chin spoiler question, go check out Rocketman's S1. He just posted a shot of it on the Quick Board (main one, not the thumper one.) He has a chin spoiler on there, doesn't seem to touch exhaust (can't see the mount point well enough to say more, maybe one of the engine bolts??) Anyway, there's plenty of clearance for airflow. Might be the answer to your questions, looks like it would work. The pic is in the "Sweet S1 in Daytona" thread, near the bottom. (Message edited by newblaster on March 16, 2005) | ||
| Zero2blast |
How about an Orange Blast... um.. that's a cleaning solution, isn't it? lol  | ||
| Vjb77 |
yes & we're reporting you to the copyright office immediately...lol! | ||
| Jerzydevil |
EZ, where did u hook up w/ that fairing/light set up on your black bike, or is it a custom piece. it's pretty wild, I gotta get one over here on the east coast | ||
| Jerzydevil |
um, never mind, I checked ur site, EZ, guess i shoulda checked there first | ||
| Mutt2jeff |
That orange blast isn't half bad looking, a lot better than the yellow one in my opinion. | ||
| Ralphthe3rd |
Newblaster, ahhhh....an S1 is alot taller than the P3, and has alot more ground clearance to work with, as well as clearance around the exhaust. A Blast is VERY Tight around the lower muffler area, and ground clearance is minimal as-is ! BTW- Every single Kerker Exhaust, grinds out the left rear portion of the muffler-on hard left hand curves....so I wouldn't be surprised AT ALL, if any cowling doesn't grind out as well !? | ||
| Zero2blast |
okay, so I started playing around with drawing again yesterday and this is the end result. some of the stuff would probably be difficult to fab and sometimes next to impossible (exhaust, swingarm) but I think I like the looks of it - I'm sure some you probably think it looks goofy.  -Dave | ||
| Ezblast |
Now that looks like fun! Sure like to see the other side! GT - JBOTDS! EZ (Message edited by ezblast on March 17, 2005) | ||
| Newblaster |
Well, there is the ground clearance question, that's true. Maybe (though it wouldn't be cheap...) you could go with the general design, and get something fabricated up, a slightly smaller piece that went more forward than downward... Like I said, maybe not cheap, but workable. Use the S1 piece for a general idea as far as header clearance, mount points, etc. And to Zero2Blast--I doubt very seriously that anyone on here would think that looks goofy. That's one sweet looking bike. As you said, the fabrication would be pretty expensive, but, hey, nothing's cheap anymore. lol... Plus, the finished product would be... Well, I'm out of words. Just wow. lol... You should find somebody with a lot of venture capital and somebody who can build bikes, and network with some custom fabrication shops. Seriously, your ideas would totally make some real money if you could get the resources to make them into reality. (Message edited by newblaster on March 17, 2005) | ||
| Zero2blast |
thanks for the positive feedback. Quick Question - I'm going to go with the pro series exhaust, A K&N filter in the stock airbox and 45/170 jetting - does this setup sound ok? will I notice any difference if I upgraded to the pro series intake? (not sure about looks & reliability - not to mention cost) oh, and I decided to spice up that 'Competition Blast' and make it more noticeable... stay tuned... | ||
| Mmelvis |
Zero2blast, The front air dam could be fabbed up out of fiberglass. You just need to make sure you embed some metal in the upper edge and down the centerline for mounting purposes. If you use a stock pipe or aftermarket pipe you need about 1.5 inches of clearence around the exhaust so you do not burn the airdam. The inside of the air dam may need to be covered with reflective heat tape material. You can use the front exhaust mount for the front support of the air dam. For the the rear support you can use a strap around either the stock can or an aftermarket can( you can get these at the home center for about 1.5 dollars). On the inside of the air dam embed the metal down the centerline, we need to mount a small block to this that we run the strap through. This will give us the spacing we need so we do not burn the air dam. All metal used for mounting should be aluminum, it should not transfer the heat like steel would. For mockup purposes you can run down to your favorite home center and pickup some building straps ( these come in many lengths and cost about 49 cents each) to create a metal frame of the air dam that you want to create. To skin the frame you can use aluminum roof flashing material. You can get a 20 foot roll of this stuff for about 12 dollars, width can very from 12 to 24 inches. This stuff is very thin and easy to mold. You mount the roof flashing to the frame using sheet metal screws (1.79 dollars for about 75). After you have completed the mock up you can use this as your mold for a fiberglass version. Total investment in parts and misc screws would be about 60 dollars for the metal mockup. Not sure how much the fiberglass material would be, as I no experience with the material. (Message edited by mmelvis on March 18, 2005) | ||
| Zero2blast |
as promised...  well I went a little wild with the paint/decal scheme on this one - all it needs now is some sponsor decals, LOL -thanks for the info Ez | ||
| Vjb77 |
...it is on baby! millennium 600cc stage 1 and kenda tires...now if it would only warm up around here...      | ||
| Ezblast |
Truelly Blasting on the Dark side! A beautifull job! What cam are you running? GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Mutt2jeff |
Looks warm enough to me! Hows the ride? | ||
| Vjb77 |
i stuck w/the stock cam but i plan on the performance cam in the not-to-distant future...went out for a quick spin today and was impressed w/the whole package though i didn't put it through the paces... |
