| Author | Message | ||
     Mygirlspurplethumper |
Gearhead:- If she's a good girl and passes the MSF she can go on any ride she wants to... Otherwise I'll have to punish her!  | ||
| Ezblast |
Better meaning smoother power delivery definately - but maybe only a pony or two over the B70 overall, and the B70 top end rush is just silly fun - so I think its really a mater of how you like your power delivered - wiskey smooth or with a tequilla kick - lol GT - JBOTDS! EZ  | ||
| Ralphthe3rd |
EZ, IMHO- in the long run -I think the XB cams are going to be easier on the valve train than the B70's are. Thats one thing thats really scares me about the B70's I have installed. Coz I really WANTED the B50's...which are mild enough, not to cause very much valve train wear. The XB Cams are also designed to be more gentle in that respect. While the B70's are Slamming the valve train around alot harder.... BTW- does anybody with some used B50's wanna trade for my USED B70's ???? BTW- I'm Serious, thats not a joke offer ! ~Ralph | ||
| Sarodude |
I agree with Ralph on the cam issue... I've read a number of references to the XB cams having relatively gentle ramps. Keep in mind also that the XB valves use somewhat thinner valve stems (7mm / .276" ) than the garden variety 5/16" (.3125" ) stemmed valves. I wonder if anyone can chime in on more aggressive ramps and / or heavier springs and the 7mm valves... -Saro | ||
| Ezblast |
My head gear is all NHRS and the cam lift values are no more for either cam, one is just more agressive than the other - no biggie if your using quality stuff up top, however, its not a thing to worry about until you get into the radical cams - neither of which those qualify as. Personally I wouldn't worry about either of those cams using only upgraded springs, guides and seals. Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ | ||
| Buellkat |
why has the forum "Handlebars" turned into "Cams"??? jUst wondering.... EZ ?? perhaps it will be copied to a thread of Cams ??? Inquiring minds need to know LOL | ||
| Ralphthe3rd |
Buellkat....cams- Cams -CAMS ! LOL.... we digress Anyway, back to cam talk.... I slightly have to disagree with EZ (Who me ?). The B70's will shorten the top end life (yes- even when using quality NRHS upgrades) over what stock or B50 cams would do. And also, the SE/XB cams would be next in line for shortened valvetrain lifespan. Which is something I wonder if the guys who buy the NEW '04 and up 1200cc Sportsters have considered ? Anyway, what I think EZ is also saying, is that the B70's are fairly mild compared to the Redshift(racing) cams , along with a few other -VERY radical Andrews Racing cams, that have been used by racers. All I'm saying is, you can't have your cake and eat it too ! Once your start hot rodding your motor, you really sacrifice long life...YES- even when using quality parts ! You see, the quality stuff is necessary for normal use with high lift cams etc...not meaning they are going to give a normal lifespan- Hell No! They are just needed to start with ! And even if you baby a hotrod motor, it will have breakages and failures alot sooner than a stock/mildly tuned motor....it's just the law of physics. And Hot/Racing Harleys are known for breaking Valves/Springs/Pushrods etc. -when using high lift cams and their assorted valve train compo}nants. Actually, the higher the spring pressure- the greater the risk of failures. But in these cases, without higher spring pressures, the power couldn't be made...and you can always start to feel your power dropping off as higher mileage starts to sag the springs and they lose sealing pressure. Racers start to notice this towards the end of every racing season....time for NEW springs ! Hot Rodding a thumper like the Blast is fun....but it's not FREE. you'll be paying the price over and over again, if you ride it alot. Nothing good-comes without a price.... Why do you think that nobody in the motorcycle world really looks at thumpers as anything more than Contemporary dirt bike motors....and THEY ain't using Pushrods either ! How many peeps have I just pissed off today ??? | ||
| Ezblast |
Concur - But I figure if Buell thinks you can have long life with those cams and simular profiles like the B50/B70(whose profile is a tad less radical though more aggressive than the SE550) - then those would not be the cams I would worry about - its the racing cams that really shorten life. Yeah I'll move this digression to the motor section later - its always good to play these things out because of the info involved - lol - well said Ralph. GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Mygirlspurplethumper |
So I ran into a problem with the billet speedo/tach support and the crossroads bars. They simply were not machined with each other in mind. The angle of the support wouldn't allow for the lower bars.  To correct the problem I used the old top clamp for the bars flipped as a spacer.  Now there is just enough room to hit the odometer reset switch(the red line is pointing to it), everything fits, and the position is slightly less aggressive. And now everything looks like it was meant to be that way!  | ||
| Ezblast |
Bravo! | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Ingenious! Extra clamp halves as spacers. A lot cheaper than the aluminum ones they sell. Very nice, almost makes me want Crossroad bars! | ||
| Mmelvis |
Jprovo here are the pictures of the Telefix 2 way adjustable clip-ons you asked about a couple of weeks ago      They are 2 way adjustable. All I needed to do was drop the headlight 2 inches. Loosen the bolts on one side that hold the tube in place. Compress the shock, slide in the clip on, put tube back to original location, tighten bolts. Repeat process on other side. Adjust to desired location. (Message edited by mmelvis on December 20, 2005) | ||
| Jprovo |
MMelvis, Thank you for the pictures, do the clipons clear the tank at full lock?? James | ||
| Mmelvis |
Jprovo: Yes the clipons do clear the tank, just by fractions of an inch. Alot of trial and error to get them just right. My steering damper just happens to reach its limits at full left and full right lock. Have a great day (Message edited by mmelvis on December 20, 2005) | ||
| Ezblast |
Mmelvis - could you show us a pic or three of the steering damper and how you mounted it? GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Yes, about that steering stabilizer-tell us more! How much,who made it and has it helped with anything in the way of handling? I've seen the adjustable ones listed on ebay for big $$$, but the stock take offs go relatively cheap. | ||
| Xgecko |
nice to see someone else using Telefix2 Clipons... | ||
| Mmelvis |
I will get some pictures taken of the steering damper. The main reason I purchased a steering damper was that I was going to race WERA this year and they require all bikes to have a steering damper. After looking over the WERA schedule I noticed I could not make many of the races so I raced with CCS. Anyway here is where I purchased the unit from http://www.pro-flo.com/proflo_steering_damper.htm The unit has helped me in the rain to slow down my inputs while steering, just turn it up a couple of clicks. The unit has saved my tail one time when I was coming out of a turn at a high rate of speed and ran on a rumble strip. The wheel started to wobble but settled down after 2 or 3 little shakes. My guess is that I would have reacted in an over aggressive manner trying to correct the problem. This is the only incident that I am aware of that the damper has helped. There may have been other and I just did not notice. EZ: Do you want me to put the steering damper pictures here in this section or is there a better place for them ? | ||
| Jprovo |
Xgecko (tony) Doh! I totally forgot that you run clip ons! | ||
| Ezblast |
Put the stearing damper pics in the racing section please! As for those clip-ons - I run those also on the Black bike with spacers to raise them up 1 1/4 inches - sold seperately for the units. Their adjustability makes them very comfey when set up to the riders preference. GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
$70 for a steering damper is way cheap! (brackets not included of course) Is it steel or aluminium? | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
FYI the same company that makes the Laverda bars (Raask  ) also make a handlebar clamp that bolts right to the fork tube. It would have to go on top of the triple tree and it may open up a few handlebar options. (Message edited by gearheaderiko on December 21, 2005) | ||
| Xgecko |
yes I do have clipon's and I love them...not spending much time online these days except to search for a house...found one that may work out, could be buying our first house in the next week (anything will beat Navy housing), that has a nice two car garage for bike storage and maintenance... | ||
| Mmelvis |
Xgecko: Good luck on getting the house | ||
| Xgecko |
GOT THE HOUSE!!!! the Blast has a home now | ||
| Jprovo |
Cool! glad you got the house. | ||
| Ezblast |
Congrats Tony! | ||
| Humboldtblast |
Does anyone have any more pics of the xb9 bars on the blast. Im thinking about replacing my bars... | ||
| Jprovo |
Humbolt - Browse through the picture section. Most of us run inexpensive universal "Superbike Bars" that you can usually find at the local Bike shop for $20. James | ||
| Humboldtblast |
how many inches are the superbike compared to the og ones? how are they on long rides? Who has a good source on some chrome hndbars? (Message edited by humboldtblast on March 09, 2006) |
