| Author | Message | ||
     Dsergison |
yeah, Since big engine work isn't in my future and I weigh 200 lbs at 6'2" (I seem to be at that plateau permanantly), and as of late I hear that what you really want is less weight, (and I'd agree) What do you do to shed pounds from: my X1: my wifes XB9S: I'v decided on the wileyco carbon muffler for the X1. I still haven't gotten it, but it's still only 19 freaking degrees here so no big hurry! there does not appear to be alot of fat to trim! | ||
| Buelliedan |
You could always buy a set of Dymag carbon fiber rims for the X1. It will save about 20 pounds. But they will set you back around $2000. For cheaper things on an X1: pull the passenger peg mounts off, carbon fiber bodywork, smaller signal lights, etc.. | ||
| Pcmodeler |
Jardine on the XB9 will shave some pounds. | ||
| Lovematt |
XB9S: Take off the passenger stuff, take off pasta strainer, put helium in the tires, turn the throttle more, go on a diet... | ||
| Djkaplan |
The biggest weight loss I was able to get on my M2 was to replace the stock steel muffler with a V&H. I never weighed the parts, but I must have shed at least 10lbs from the bike with that one change. Can't think of too much you could do to lighten the bikes significantly without spending a lot of $$$. | ||
| Bomber |
on tubers - approx 3-4 pounds lost through trimming the cam cover -- exhaust is a big target, passenger pegs and brackets, lots of electronic stuff (kickstand switch, clutch switch, and like that) - fly screen and fenders, replace with CF, aluminum handle bars -- loose the hugger altogether -- drill anything you can fulla holes (50s hotrod style) keep trimming stuff, and it adds up in a hurry | ||
| Dsergison |
trimming the cam cover? loose the hugger altogether? Bomber, could you clarify those. Thanks, Dan | ||
| Country |
the hugger is the piece of plastic that sits directly over the tire to protect the underside of the bike from rocks and stuff. | ||
| Rick_a |
I lightened my bike a bit by replacing some body work with CF, replacing some heavy cast aluminum and steel non load bearing parts with CF, replacing the instruments with lighter units, replacing the headlamp with an off road item, getting rid of a lot of unneeded wiring, relays, and safety switches, cutting down, cutting off, or skeletonizing a few brackets, covers, and braces, removing any unnecessary pieces...and then I want totally backwards by putting dual rotors on it! | ||
| Lovematt |
I never had a tuber but I believe on older models the hugger was also there to keep oil from getting on the back tire? This would be bad news... | ||
| Dsergison |
thanks. couldnt figure out what a hugger was. it's gone already. along with the back plate fender. (x1)  "heavy cast aluminum and steel non load bearing parts" like WHAT? I keep looking at the bike thinking, well it is awfully handy to have a kickstand. can't cut that off. (but I did cut off the mysterious rubber nubber?).... I do need some place to sit, it would make a lousy trias bike.... axles are handy to have on a bike.... to hard to push start, got to keep the starter.... etc....  (Message edited by dsergison on March 02, 2005) | ||
| Bomber |
trimming the cam cover -- the cover on the right hand side of the engie cases is the cam cover -- it's much larger (and heavier) than needed, and is internally webbed as if it were a structural member -- no pics here to show (sorry), but take a good look at any XR750 flattracker (right side), and and you'll get the idea -- easy 10 minutes of work once you have the cover off | ||
| Walt221 |
When I had an X1 streetbike, I tried to get rid of everything I didn't need to reduce its weight. I only dropped it 5lbs! It wasn't until I made it a race bike that the weight started coming off. Unfortunately, just as horsepower=$$; less weight=$$. How light depends on how much. Trimming the cam cover can be a good idea, but I've done it before and here's a tip, do NOT remove the hole for the rear alignment dowel pin. If you do, you will make it difficult to re-install the cover, as well as put extra strain on your cam bushings. Trimming it down will only save you about 500 grams (I weighed my scrap). It looks cool, but may not be worth the effort for a street bike. | ||
| Toomanytoys |
Here is a how-to link for trimming down the cam cover. Remembered reading about this somewhere and tracked it down. http://www.bikernet.com/garage/sturgisbuell2001-2.asp found this link on the X1-files site. Another great wealth of information with many links and information taken from the Badweb site in the first place. http://www.saintjohn.nbcc.nb.ca/Marriott/x1/ Hope this helps. Found a lot of info here for myself, and the guys on here have been great to me so far.  | ||
| Dsergison |
http://www.bikernet.com/garage/sturgisbuell2001-2.asp oh that's cool! thanks | ||
| Simond |
I would have thought that time spent losing sprung weight is pretty much a waste of time (unless you are going racing seriously). The benefits are there but it would probably be easier to look at either your weight or the weight of your clothing. How much will you lose by trimming the cam cover compared to what you might be carrying in your pockets?!!!!! Losing unsprung weight is where you will see real benefits. Unfortunately that is a very expensive pastime! I think that the only really beneficial weight saving (for the road) would be in the wheels (as Dan has already suggested). (Message edited by SimonD on March 02, 2005) | ||
| Djkaplan |
I always wanted to trim my cam cover, but the factory shape kind of grew on me. | ||
| 1313 |
Or if you aren't concerned about getting all the unnecessary weight out you could get creative in removing some of the excess on the cam cover.   1313 | ||
| Aesquire |
I'd say get the Ti Wileyco muffler, not the carbon fiber one. ( I have the Ti one, so I am biased ) I hit the stock muffler a few times on speed bumps. I have not hit the Wileyco yet, but you never know. The Ti one is near weightless. You would have to spend big bucks to get lighter rims than Buell uses stock. | ||
| Timbo |
On the tube frame you could go with Titanium axles and Ti fastners for much of the bike. Lots of weight shedding there, but it isn't cheap. It would be easier (and possibly cheaper) to contact NRHS , and overcome the weight with BRUTE STRENGTH. You will like it much better stronger, than lighter.  | ||
| Slaughter |
One statement in favor of the hugger - if you EVER get a blocked breather or slightly overfill your oil, it'll puke out the filler and onto the rear tire STAY AWAY FROM CARBON/GRAPHITE WHEELS!!! | ||
| Rick_a |
Lemme see...I made a CF dash, timing cover, heel guards (passenger peg supports removed), plate holder, and I'm sure more that I can't remember. | ||
| Slaughter |
Rick_a - just to be clear - you said you put on a bunch of non load bearing CF. Hope it didn't sound like I was picking on you CF wheels scare the bejeebus out of me - unless you can afford to throw them away after any crash! (ditto for CF chassis on other sportbikes) | ||
| Sleez |
the magnesium Dymags are about half the price of CF, and weigh about half of the stock wheels, i have a set i got for a steal on ebay, brand new, perfect in the boxes! i will be most likely putting them on the S3 when i get it finished, but may put them on the S1W to try em out!! | ||
| Fullpower |
there are several pounds of mostly useless plastic hanging on the stock XB. the right side "air scoop" appears to be a noise reduction part and weighs 5 ounces with fasteners. the most hideous collection of steel bracketed reflectors around the rear end is 10 ounces of easily jettisoned ballast. the passenger peg and associated mounting bracketry is another couple pounds. also the chin fairing assembly and its mounting hardware weighs 1 lb 6 ounces, and was absolutely useless on my bike. the air intake snorel is a few ounces of baggage that can easily fall of. | ||
| Bomber |
it's actully more likely that you could loose sigificant weight off yourownbadself than the scoot (at least for me!) 20 pounds in the last year! | ||
| Rick_a |
For sure. That's the next step for me! | ||
| Slaughter |
They say the next 7 pounds you gain or lose is 1 HP equivalent. My leathers only make me look potbellied (and I can still lose a few pounds) | ||
| Ray_maines |
As a matter of principle: (All of the following examples assume similar weight savings) 1) It's better to remove unsprung weight than "sprung" weight. That is, it's better to have light wheels and brakes than handlebars and body work 2) It's better to save weight on the edges and extremities rather than the center of the motorcycle. Better to have a light weight head and tail light than a light weight gas tank. 3) Better to save weight on the top than the bottom. A light weight seat and handle bars are better than removing the chin fairing. 4) Reciprocating weight is more important that revolving weight Forged pistons and Ti rods are more important than a light crank or clutch basket. 5) Revolving weight near the axle is less important that revolving weight farther from the axle. Light tires are better than light brake rotors 6) The whole concept of reducing weight is all about perception. Therefore, losing body fat is pointless. The Buell principle of Mass Centralization is a wonderful thing! Any given Buell feels lighter than it really is and handles better and goes faster than the scale and tape measure indicate that it should All weight lost is good weight lost. Therefore, I recommend you go on a diet and spend a ton of money, you and your bike will be better off for it. Just not as much better off as you neighbors I-4 with an under seat muffler and dual brake disks. Rejoice! Erik has done all the really hard work for you. | ||
| Djkaplan |
Rejoice! Erik has done all the really hard work for you. Kinda what I was thinking! |
