| Author | Message | ||
     Oldog |
I have purchased some Carbon fiber items on E-bay for My 01 X1, and Caveot Emtor The CF tank cover squeezes the tank and the mounting ears on the front side are not even usable for lowers or the blisters I think the cover may be a bit short The lowers are so-so, the left side cover will be apita to fit. the Right side is ok can any of you tell me how the stuff holds up I like the look of CF, my bike will not see a race track If any of you have found a good source I am interested in a tank cover and some Lowers to replace the "plastic blisters on my X1" looked at american sport bike has any one purchased some of theirs? The old dog learned this one the hard way ... Jim  | ||
| Davefl  |
I do not have an X1 but all the carbon on my M2 is from American Sport Bike and it is all perfect. | ||
| Bomber  |
ditto that -- first class stuff, fit perfect, holding up well after 2+ years if only I could afford a CF tank for the MaDeuece | ||
| Oldog |
Davefl / Bomber: Looked at American Sport Bike nice looking stuff $$$$$$$$$$ I did not see a tank cover did your carbon come with any needed misc and instructions? the ebay stuff is "cheapie" and comes with nothing  Was in the garage last night with the E-bay covers the lefty has it's screw hole over a gusset with a ~1" hole in it i'm thinking washer sandwhich is your CF rubber mounted? Im going to try and use the Junque before It meets the "round file", I think my Cheap CF tank cover may become a lamp shade, trash can, snack tray, any suggestions? thanks Jim ... | ||
| Bomber |
dunno bout tank cover -- the swag I've got is the front fender and the ly screen -- neither needed anything else -- quality costs, what can I tell ya? the good news, is that when you spend the buck for good stuff, you'll not have to replace it | ||
| Oldog |
Bomber thanks I was hoping to gather some info, I left a note to asb on this thread you are absolutely right, It was Jtgtbt, with the expected results I hope any wood be buyers check here first and save the missed step  I found E-bay and the parts before I found Badwebb and the links to its sponsers fyi the purveyers of the bogus carbon have folded up their tents and may have closed their E-bay accounts. This is not to say that buying on E-bay is not a good thing, I have gotten some sweet deals there or that all of the items these people sell are not good Just that there were quality and transaction issues Caveot -Emtor [ buyer beware ] If any one wants to know who they were drop me a note | ||
| X1tx  |
I got an e-mail from E-Bay about these folks. Said that E-bay closed their account. Didn't say why. But with all the deadbeat bidders I've had and E-bay taking no action, it must have been a LOT of complaints. If you didn't win anything from them, be glad. The message I got from E-bay gave a list of ways you could go about recovering funds and methods of filing fraud complaints if that tells you anything......... | ||
| Buelliedan  |
Actually I got a pretty nice front and rear CF fender from one of those guys for only $100. | ||
| Sleez  |
I got a S1 rear fender, looks as good as the Buell stuff, haven't tried fitting it yet though, 35.00!! | ||
| 1313  |
Oldog et al, Now hold on a second before thinking you got crap CF parts. I am not trying to stick up for whoever you bought the parts from (as I don't know who they are), just trying to share some experiences I've had with CF parts on the Buell X1. The tank cover of the X1 was even a problem for Buell with the '99 Carbon Fiber Extreme X1. The biggest problems were due to the reduction of material thickness going from .120"-.150" thick plastic to ~.030" thick carbon fiber. Since molds for CF parts are made from the external surfaces of the part being reproduced, there is roughly .090-.120" of material 'missing'. This 'missing' material is what caused many fit up problems. The tank covers on the CF Extreme X1 appeared too short until the difference in thickness was addressed. The front tabs for the X1 CF tank cover were initially just the molded plastic tabs used on the plastic tank covers and they were the wrong shape - again due to the difference in thickness between the two materials. The final solution (albeit expensive) was to create reshaped CF tabs for the CF tank cover and bond them using proven composites methods. Tab retention/breakage on 99 X1 plastic tank covers is a hole 'nother story in itself, so let's stick to the topic at hand. Similar issues came to light with the CF chin spoiler as well again due to the difference in material thicknesses. Now, at this point you are asking about all the other posts on here from people that have not had any problems with CF parts fitting and wondering why that is. A front fender made of CF will have the 'missing' material above the front wheel - so what if there is a little extra air between your front tire and the fender, it's no big deal. As for the flyscreens, really the only thing that may have been done in the production of the CF part was to change the drilling position slightly to counteract the effects of the differences in thicknesses, as the outer surface of the CF part is about .090" below the outer surface of the molded plastic part. Has anyone who has replaced an S1, X1 or M2 plastic flyscreen with a CF part noticed that their headlight appears to stick out a little further than before??? It's not because the headlight sticks out further, it's because of the difference in thickness between the plastic part and CF part. 1313 | ||
| Oldog |
Hi All I have been at the garage some this afternoon the CF tank cover that I got can be placed over the fuel cell only by pushing down on it, there is no foam under it ( stocker has 2 strips ) and lays over the fuel cell When I press the cf cover down I can see the cell distorting. NOT GOOD IN MY BOOK, Hey 1313 maybe they may have used the inside of the stock cover as a mold The forward ears are as 1313 describes but there is no clearance at the tab for the blister or lower cover to slip over and fit between the cover and tab If I cut the blisters I might make them fit and that 'aint happening I mounted the set of "frame protectors" and the stock cover. The right hand one was OK. The left hand one, the rear hole falls over the hole in the gusset on the left side this hole is 1" in diameter i am cobbling up a washer sandwhich or strap in an effort to secure the rear end of the left cover if the CF tank cover would have fit at $81.00 inc freight that would have been sweet the lowers were about $125.00 + freight how it went down, I had problems with getting the tank cover. When I paid for the first "protectors" the company was dropped from E-bay within hours of payment, I got my money and the protectors the second set are paid for but are not here I am attempting to pay for the first set. The guys at American Sport Bike sent me back a note about the stuff and one of our august members was kind enough to send a link to me the finish on the parts that I have in hand is only fair there are a number of blemishes in the fiber and on the part and American Sport Bike has the tank cover they say that the tank cover is not in the listing,  | ||
| Jlewis50 |
I also purchased items from the Ebay CF folks. They sent the wrong item to me and it took an additional 2 weeks to get the correct piece. I thought they were going to stick me for the CF frame guards I purchased for my X-1. I I too had the same problem with mounting the left guard. The bolt hole is where the round hole in the gusset was. I sandwiched two washers wrapped in tape and screwed it all together. Hopefully it will hold. The good news is that I paid $82 plus freight for the items and other than the fit issue they seem to look well. Additionally I have the chain guard that I haven't received the return tag for.Looks like I may keep it if they don't contact me soon. Joe | ||
| Ocbueller  |
I paid $58 w/shipping for the X1 tank cover. Should have it by Wednesday. I'll let you know how it fits and looks. SteveH | ||
| Oldog |
Update: Worked on the left "lower" this is what I did I used 2 fender washers with 1/16" silicon rubber disks next to the frame, tried a well nut went riding that did not work, used a standard 1/4" hex nut and blue lock tite that works Oc where did you get the tank cover? I hope yours fits ok, I wanted the cover & lowers I have them but they don't work to well together. 1313's explanation seems to make good sense to me I had to borrow grage space for working ( apartment living sucks ) I will likely try again later or use it as a lamp shade the lowers other than the blems are ~ ok for fit with the plastic top cover.  | ||
| Oldog |
Sorry Blake//Admin I will go directly to the hall of shame BAD -DOG!  | ||
| Oldog |
another Try at the snaps  | ||
| Ocbueller |
I got mine from that same ebay source. SteveH | ||
| Oldog |
OC: hope it works out I had concerns the snap looks like and S series bike, nice red, Pms'? Sweeeeet! let me know close up right side  | ||
| Fredinsb |
does anyone know if power commanders are being made for: 2003 buell xb9s? I have not been able to find anyone who knows what to match with a D&D pipe. | ||
| Ocbueller |
Tank cover arrived today. Looks pretty good finishwise. Will try for fit over the next few days and let you know. Thanks for the compliments on the S1. Snap red w/ pms. The X1 is black and the cf will be a nice accent. SteveH | ||
| Oldog  |
Question to 1313 on CF I get the feeling that you know your @#$@#$ about CF your profile indicates that your ride has a great deal of it ( sounds nice too! ) My fear is that if I hack up the CF outer cover mounting ears that oh say mid ride I will have the cover and possibly the fuel cell wandering about, or that by "Clamping the Cell down" on the frame that I may cause it to split or leak what I am thinking about is drilling the internal ears for 10/32 well nuts or 1/4 x 20 well nuts for rubber mounting (ala factory) then slotting the ears to allow the lower covers to fit between the ear and the cover (ala factory) I recieved a pm from American Sport Bike after starting the thread, the stuff i have looks like 1 layer of fabric and lots of resin with a clear coat would you waste the time ? ps I live just south of you in Wilminton NC and would like to see the carbon on your sled  | ||
| Ocbueller |
Oldog, The way the front tabs are molded into the CF tank cover does not allow the stock or aftermarket lowers to slip in. Even if they did I'm not convinced the tank cover is going to fit properly. Slotting the tabs for clearance and then reinforcing them may work. I started to modify the stock scoop by removing the upper front lip where it interferes with the front tab. I'm still not sure the shape of the cover coincides with the shape of the scoop and air cleaner cover. I may have a large cf ashtray on my hands. The actual cost was $28 the rest was shipping. The company is back on ebay so I may try to get some satisfaction by contacting them. I may still mess with it but will probably need a spare scoop and ac cover to experiment on. Live and learn.I guarantee we would have not had any problems with the American Sport Bike quality CF. SteveH | ||
| Oldog |
Oc Real sorry to hear this Who's peddling the junque ?  On E-Bay Hey may be they can be used for urinals?  | ||
| Oldog |
Hey OC! Check this out I found something it would fit its now "AURT~NeuVeux"  Would you happen to have a 5" clock?  I'm thinking about some cup hooks on the sides (use titanium finish) to add the functionality of a hat rack,  (its too shallow to use as a Urinal)  What the Hey? Jim ........ | ||
| Ocbueller |
Oldog, I got a good laugh out of that one. Believe it or not I got the cover to work with the stock lowers. I got brave and trimmed the front upper lip off the stock lowers. I trimmed just enough that if it didn't work it would still work with the stock tank cover. I then used a high speed cutting disk and slotted the tabs on the CF cover so that the lowers would sit further under the tank cover. There was not much room for error,but I got enough clearance and then drilled the tabs to accept the stock wellnuts. It came out pretty good. If I can I will try to post a pic. SteveH | ||
| Oldog |
Oc: I fess it could still be salvaged I will wait to see how yours works out. It and my CF lowers don't fit too well together either, to get it to work I would likely remove the ears all together and fab a 1/16" to 1/8" thick aluminum piece into the end with the ears in it for the well nuts. I'm glad you got a laugh from this I sure did! Ride safe!  | ||
| 1313 |
Hey Oldog, Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you. I am finally starting to get the best of the flu, which got the best of me last week. I see from your post that you have decided to do the best thing you could with the tank cover. From the picture you E-mailed me, I assumed that the tabs were installed upside down and on the opposite side of where they should be. I was going to suggest this as the best thing to do with your tank cover, but did not know how well my suggestion would be received. I'm glad to see that you beat me to it. Keep me posted about Myrtle Beach and we'll have to see if we can't meet up before then. 1313 | ||
| Oldog |
LOL 1313 when handed a lemon I made lemonaid! 'Sides you know any one with a carbonfiber dustcatcher?  get well soon! flu sucks  Ineed a 5" clock and some titanium plated cup hooks (hat rack) Billit "coathangers?" any ideas? I hope I get to see you soon (Message edited by oldog on February 24, 2005) (Message edited by oldog on February 24, 2005) | ||
| Tripp |
check this out  | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
now thats likeing carbin fiber too much or maybe they made it so its light weight so fat people wont breackt the porclin part.  |
