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     1313 |
Alright, with all the talk I've seen on badweb about the inavailability of tube framed parts in recent months (plus the sheer fact that the parts on my S2 are starting to look a little tattered) I decided to do a test of my own. While at my closest Buell dealer (~60 miles away) for their inagural BRAG meeting I decided the time was right to order some parts for my 1995 S2 Thunderbolt. Some nasty, annoying little parts that, if any of the inavailability issues discussed on badweb were true, I would find that these parts were no longer available, the tooling had been destroyed and any parts on any dealer shelves would magically melt if I even mentioned the part name to any dealership personnel. The part in question was shown in my parts book as 68993-94Y - Grommet, turn signal. OK, there was a little difficulty ordering the parts because I had misadvertently got the 'non-Buell parts guy' (NBPG for short) at the dealership to place my order with. Later I was clued in on the parts guy 'who wants to get involved with the Buell stuff', so I know better for the future. Once the NBPG had translated my 6899-94Y part number to it's 'new' part number, there was no problem in ordering it. When I paying for the parts, I was told that I would get a call when the parts I ordered arrived. Today while spending my last day home recovering from the flu I got a call from the dealership saying that my parts have arrived! I ordered the parts on Sunday the 13th and today is Tuesday the 22nd. In just a little over a week this dealership - which is over 1,000 miles away from East Troy, and doesn't even have a Buell sign on their building (yet, right Ayden?!) got the little parts that I am needing. So the next time I hear someone say that tube framed Buell parts are unavailable my response to them is HOGWASH! 1313 | ||
| Kenb |
Glad somebody else said it, I've never had a problem as long as I have a part number. | ||
| Lake_bueller |
The problem hasn't so much been the "stock" items (although there have been a few difficulties with bodywork). The unavailable items are the "Pro Series" items. These include the VERY important Race ECM. Without this part, it's almost impossible to change the exhaust or intake on the FI Buells. Maybe someday they'll bring back some of these items. | ||
| Buelliedan |
Lake, The race ECM is available again. I believe DaveS can get you one. | ||
| Azbueller |
Try to get a stock front brake rotor for a 95 S2, I worked at a dealer and did a dealer search on HDnet and even called the factory with no luck and one day, BAM there's one on ebay!!!! | ||
| Buelliedan |
AZbueller, You will never get a stock front S2 rotor from the factory. As long as they have a suitable replacement part then Buell is doing it's job. The new rotors work fine. I had one on my S2 for years now. | ||
| Lake_bueller |
Dan...No FI crap for this boy. All my Buells are straight carb (2 tweeked stock, 1 Mikuni)  I was just using the ECM as an example (I guess a poor one at that). | ||
| Court |
>>>(although there have been a few difficulties with bodywork). Problem: History - order any bodywork you want, allow an extra day (Jim is small and light, boxes are big and heavy) and it'll be on the way. >>>>You will never get a stock front S2 rotor from the factory. That's a pretty accurate statement in that they were upgraded. Tell ya what, you get me a stock fender, I'll get the rotor. Both fell victim to the advance in materials and methods.  I had one call today for a refilling of the pipeline of Pro-Race Series goodies. Any others before I start raising Cain?.....that is, if I am Able. Court | ||
| Pdxs3t |
I would love to order a set of narrow hard bag outer shells (black) for my 2001 bolt. Is that something that will be available from the factory again? | ||
| Azbueller |
I was told the new rotors won't fit pre 98 model Buells cause the calipers changed and so did the offset in the rotors. | ||
| S2pengy |
I am running a newer rotor on my 95 Ss with no problem.... | ||
| Firemanjim |
Saw a set of new black hard bag covers on eBay. I have never had a problem getting parts for my S-2's.Sometimes you just have to educate the new parts guys is all."Here ,let me get that 1995 S-2 parts book for you,I know right where it is." or--"it's the same as a Sportster one." usually helps. | ||
| Court |
Shallow Hard Bag lids for 2001 S3-T: Right: (Carbon Black) 91337-99YYB Left: (Carbon Black) 91336-99YYB My 1995 S2 hs something on it that is not the 1995 S2 rotor. What the heck it is, I have no idea. I have a wall with almost made the cut" rotors from various manufacturers. Todd: Do some checking and post a list of what retrofits to a 1995, if you would so kindly. Az, you are in good hands. Todd knows the 1995's quite well. Court | ||
| Al_lighton |
Race ECMs are available again, I've even got a few recently built ones in stock. Bruce Champion (P&A manager) took the time to listen to me and others when we explained why that was a bad part to discontinue. He's working on the race header shoe now too. If there are other parts that you know are discontinued that you think that it is to Buell's detriment to not keep it around, let me know and I'll do what I can to help resurrect it, if there's a good business case for it. Buell, and Bruce in particular, have been very supportive of A.S.B in our efforts to keep the tube frame Buell owners supported. Most parts are still available, or if they aren't, there is a superceding part available to take it's place (2000 spec rotors in place of earlier rotors, and inverted Y hangers in place of L hanger rubber isolators, for example) Al | ||
| Buelliedan |
Quote: "I was told the new rotors won't fit pre 98 model Buells cause the calipers changed and so did the offset in the rotors." that is an inaccurate statement!! | ||
| Pdxs3t |
Thanks Court, will be checkin into those tomorrow! | ||
| Leftcoastal |
Click on my profile and see pic. Try getting stuff for THAT! (actually - Ive had pretty good luck finding what I need, but don't tell the parts guy what it's for, just research and give part numbers!) One NBPG told me they didn't make Buells in 1991! He worked up a sweat trying to convince me I was crazy, stupid, or both! He might be right but not about THAT! | ||
| Buelliedan |
Actually in a way he is coorect. Harley did not make Buells in 1991. | ||
| Leftcoastal |
Important fact! but at the time he was saying Buell didn't make Buells then! the 'they' being Buell, not H-D. Besides that - you shouldn't be talking on this "hard to get..." post cause near as I can tell YOU have just about ALL the Buells ever built! I don't mean just each model - I mean ALL of the bikes! Looks like you could strip a different one for parts every week, and stil have trouble deciding which one to ride! Al - wishin' he had about half as many Buells as Dan - in rainy LA | ||
| Court |
Al: Actually, the parts for 1991 Buells shouldn't be much of a problem with certain exceptions. Case in point, a couple years ago, there was an RR1000 damaged. I got called as part of a hurry up effort to get the bike back to "as new" quickly. Gustavson had been contacted and there was talk about how fast a windscreen could be made. I was asked for my input. I called Cpl. Anglim and there were 3 in stock. Me? I'm holding out for a special run of commemorative RS1200's from that rack of frames in the corner. Court | ||
| Koz5150 |
I was one of the fortunate that took the tour at the 20th anniversary. I know where there is a barn with a few spare parts...  | ||
| S2pengy |
As far as front brake rotors all tuber front brake rotors will work on a S2.. Always check rotor to caliper clearance in case there might be some very slight interferance (I have seen this several times, a thin washer placed between the caliper mount and caliper at each bolt solved the problem each time)(check this with the front wheel off the ground and pads removed from the caliper). The orginal rotors were high carbon steel the later rotors are stainless so if you use the OEM pads you will find the brakes do no have the same feel or grab (aftermarket pads can give back the orginal grab). The mounting of the rotor is also slightly different the older rotors used countersunk allen screws and are rather hard to remove (I use a screw knocker on a rivet gun) the later rotor uses bolts. | ||
| Buelliedan |
Now just a minute. I do not own an RR or an M2!  | ||
| Henrik |
I've heard good things about Lyndall Racing Brake pads for the S2 for use on the newer SS rotor. I'm pretty sure Al at American Sport Bike stock these?? Al?? If they're working on the race header shoe - maybe they could beef up the design a hair?? Henrik | ||
| Al_lighton |
Yup, we do stock the Lyndalls, and I'm a big fan of them on the stainless rotor. Buell switched to Sintered pads when they went to Stainless rotors to get some of the grip back that stainless loses to iron/steel rotors. A good sintered pad does give good grip, but it also tends to be a bit more "digital" (on or off), with less progressive feel. Sintereds last well too, but somewhat at the expense of the rotor, and they tend to leave more deposition layer. The Lyndalls seem to have as much grip as the sintereds on the stainless rotor, but better feel. Less deposition layer, too. But they will wear out a little bit faster than the sintereds. I like them. Seems most of the folks I've turned onto them do too. A little pricier, but I think they're worth it. Money back guarantee from Lyndall if you don't like them as well. The other thing that is kinda cool is that the company is a family business. Paul Sr and Jr. are about the nicest folks you'd ever want to meet. Nothing wrong with the Ferodo CP911's either, for the Buell single rotor application. The heat saturation rate for the single rotor is a good match for that compound. I wouldn't use it for a dual disc on a street bike, though. I hear ya on the shoe. A strategically placed weld or two more than the current one would be a good start. Many a person has had to resort to welding nuts to the tops of those damned flat head screws holding on the old rotors in order to get them out. Flat head screws generally just suck when used in a bolt pattern. They are self centering. The first one tightened will be in right. The others will always have some bind to them unless the machining is EXACTLY spot on, which is generally impossible for production tolerances. The newer design (counterbored pan heads) is superior, though I sure wish they hadn't used those damned Torx heads. I hate Torx! Al | ||
| Road_thing |
Damn these torx head bolts Invention of the devil I always strip them rt | ||
| Steveshakeshaft |
I have been trying to obtain 96-98 S1 part number 68742-96Y for sometime now. I have tried dealers in the UK and the US and I'm told that it is replaced with a later part number having (from memory) a "99" suffix. Obviously the part is from a later model year, an M2 I think. It simply doesn't work. I'd be pleased to hear if anyone can track one down for me. Steve steve_s@ukbeg.com www.ukbeg.com | ||
| Court |
Have ya an answer shortly. . . | ||
| Buelliedan |
Steve, what is the part? I have boxes of old small buell parts. | ||
| Shazam |
Bullie, did you get my message? appreciate it |
