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Coolice
| Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 01:40 pm: |
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WOW!! You have to read the new Cycle World mag!!! BUELL has the Racewatch section!! YA GREAT JOB GUYS!! GO BUELL!! |
Loki
| Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 01:54 pm: |
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It is a good read at that. |
BadS1
| Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 02:17 pm: |
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Just read it myself Coolice and I thought it was a good one. |
X1tx
| Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 04:12 pm: |
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Good article, but the 'teaser' on the cover was a bit sensationalistic. "Can Buell Win the 200?" I seriously doubt it if American Honda runs (which they will). The article was great though. |
BadS1
| Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 04:28 pm: |
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Well you can dream can't ya just like the cover said...Erik's Dream!!!But at the same time it could happen...anything can happen in racing. |
Coolice
| Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 07:34 pm: |
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Ya like a pile up in a turn and out from behind the wrecked pile of machines comes.......THE BUELLS!! 1-2 FINISH! (oh its a nice dream on a cold Friday nite in winter..........) |
Charlieboy6649
| Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 10:23 pm: |
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Eliz says it came in the mail today and I'm stuck on shift! I can't wait to get home and read it tomorrow! You can never discount any bike in a race. Crazy things happen and Ciccotto is a word class rider. Is it him that'll be at Daytona??? I don't know? It was he who did the tire test a couple weeks ago. I don't see how HD and the factory can ignore the issue after a 5 page spread. A factory team would be awsome next year! Hope the Badweb $$ goes to good use this year. |
Bcordb3
| Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 10:35 pm: |
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No crash wishes from me, just have the Buelligans out ride the rice burners. |
Cataract2
| Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 12:22 am: |
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Excuse my ignorance, but who is Ciccotto? |
Bcordb3
| Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 10:06 am: |
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A taste of Ciccotto http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/breakingnews/3620022466.htm |
Firemanjim
| Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 11:13 am: |
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Ryan,where have you been hiding.Ciccotto has been around Buell racing for eons. |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 11:32 am: |
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Just the fact that the old Sportster engine is still racing against anything is incredible. I'm sure the designers of the 1957 XL would be very pleased. |
Kevyn
| Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 12:22 pm: |
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The more I read about Erik, the more my admiration and respect for him and the machines he's responsible for grows. Erik Buell is putting bikes on the track on his time, his terms. In 10 short years, one decade, Erik has transformed that under 50HP 57XL lump into a 135HP fire breather capable of 170MPH+ down the back stretch, racing with the the world's most sophisticated, mechanically complex and technically advanced motorcycles the racing world has to offer. Way to go Erik, thanks for the great machines. Thanks Willy for giving the man a chance. |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 12:36 pm: |
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Did Willy G. have anything to do with Buell? |
Kevyn
| Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 03:26 pm: |
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Couldn't say what Willy has to do with Buell but I do know he's an enthusiastic race fan... ...should have seen him 'beamin' on the podium with Rich King after King's win at Springfield!! ...the mere presence of a racing effort within BMC is speaking volumes about HD's confidence in the results of their efforts. Perhaps someone with more intimate knowledge about the formal and informal business relationships between HD and BMC could chime in? |
1313
| Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 04:03 pm: |
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Buell has always had its own Styling Department. However, H-D has contributed to some of Buell P&A (Parts & Accessories), but with some of the latest P&A items I would say that either Buell has gained some ground with their own P&A or that H-D has finally wisened up and figured out that just coating the OE part in chrome is not what most Buell riders want. 1313 |
Cataract2
| Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 08:51 pm: |
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Ryan,where have you been hiding.Ciccotto has been around Buell racing for eons. Well, my Buell love only started a little over a year ago. I'm just now starting to get into the racing scene. So, I will be asking questions from time to time to learn. |
Charlieboy6649
| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 01:26 am: |
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And boy is this the place to do it. I didn't know anything about motorcycles. Then the XB seduced me and now I'm a self proclaimed enthusiast. This site has been my guidance on that journey. |
M2nc
| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 02:26 am: |
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Ayden and I got to see Tilley's HD Buell run at VIR Formula USA Qualifying. It was really cool because Tripp Nobles pulled up behind team Suzuki and one by one passed all three. Then after they pulled into the pits, Tripp had to rub it in by saying, "You let a Harley pass you?" A Classic moment. |
Court
| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 07:14 am: |
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>>>So, I will be asking questions from time to time to learn. Excellent. Welcome and feel free to ask any and everything you want. Court P.S. - listen closely to this conversation and make notes.....amongst the doom and gloom nay-saying there may be some foreshadowing. |
José_quiñones
| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 08:58 am: |
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Ryan, go to Buell's website and check out the racing section for some good background info, including racer profiles & pictures without their helmets on so you can actually SEE what they look like. go to our website, www.dcbrag.org, click HERE to go to our event gallery and see Buell racing pictures from 2000 to 2004. Then ask away! (Message edited by josé_quiñones on January 30, 2005) |
Raraf
| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 10:49 am: |
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After looking at all the chi-chi stuff done to their bike the best idea was moving the air intake and sealing that "snorkel" hole in frame so it will hold more gas! |
José_quiñones
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 07:52 am: |
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It does help, but it's only about a half gallon more if that. |
M1combat
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 10:18 am: |
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Well, That and the dual intake setup . I'll be capping my frame as soon as I get all of my airbox mods done. |
Davegess
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 10:38 am: |
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Did you all notice the mention of how the chain conversion makes the swingarm less stiff? Interesting how thorough the engineering on the XB is. Dave |
Kevyn
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 01:23 pm: |
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Did we also notice 3- 1/2 page ads? |
Loki
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 01:26 pm: |
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There are quite a few interesting tidbits in that read. |
Slaughter
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 05:14 pm: |
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I gotta read the article - but hey, I'm not above looking a little foolish. BUuuut... I'm (yes, another) engineer and have some observations. First, I have a Hal's chain conversion on my race bike. The chain conversion (at least on Hal's bikes) should if anything increase stiffness slightly. There is no material removed. They have taken a stock swingarm, modified the axle attachment (welding in a machined axle mount) so it's slide-adjustable and then welded in a plate to stiffen the side the chain passes through. The removable swing-arm section is welded in place (it is bolted in place in the stock swingarm) Maybe because it does have a slightly longer wheelbase than stock -- the axle is a little farther back, you could make the argument that the longer wheelbase makes it more flexible but I doubt it is measurable. I'd say that Hal's 140HP flexes the swingarm MUCH MORE more than 85HP does. (Message edited by slaughter on January 31, 2005) |
Blake
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 06:30 pm: |
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I took from the article that the chain conversion does not allow the axle to tie as rigidly to the swingarm for bending type fixity. So it's not the swingarm itself that loses stiffness, it is the assembly of swingarm to axle that is less stiff. Zat make sense? |
Slaughter
| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 06:48 pm: |
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Blake, As you described it - MAaaaaybe... but I'm kinda looking at the axle in either case as a fixed boundary condition in my mind - and giving it the same cross-section -- so maybe there's the flaw in my thinking. Don't know if the axle/swingarm attachment itself would allow more flexing or not. Kinda academic but the attachment MAY be more flexible. You'd really have to have 2 swingarms with same geometry and load em up. I've got a spare stock swing-arm that I picked up on ebay... dunno if I'll check it out or just figure that I really don't have enough data to make an intelligent statement. (heck, it's MONDAY, I don't start thinking til Tuesday anyways) All that being said, Hal's is going to a slightly LONGER swingarm now - longer than the chain conversion already out. They have probably as much as 2 inches more than stock XB if you slide it all the way out - maybe 3 inches. Keep in mind, they're talking race applications. They're dealing with stability at 100+ mph speeds and hard cornering/braking that nobody should be dealing with on the street. I still can't bring myself to slide the bike as easily as it wants to at speed. Crashed a couple times losing both ends. The real racers will come by me in turn 8 at Willow - passing me doing 130+ (rev limit is maybe 135 so speed is a guess) - and they're starting to slide at about 145-160 in the turn. Kinda impressive being at the limit of traction and have somebody come whipping around you. Everybody tells me that once traction breaks, you start feeling comfortable again - sora like getting your knee down... but I'm still having a hard time bringing myself to let it go that far in the high speed turns. Like they say, if she had balls, the Queen could be King. Heck though, the chain conversion and Zipper's pushrod covers DO look cool! (Message edited by slaughter on January 31, 2005) |