| Author | Message | ||
     Hogs |
Just wondering if all would look this over , and give your ideals if this or another product like this will work with our xb`s...to dial in the ratio along with other mods.. Thanks in advance. http://knfilters.com/airfuelmonitors.htm | ||
| Ingemar  |
I like it. I'd think we need the monitor only, since the bike has an o2 sensor. It can probably use that signal. I've searched through the online vendor's sites for a price of the round monitor (# 85-2442), but couldn't find it. Then again, I think it was Opto who created one with a few leds and made one himself. I might take that route myself sometime. | ||
| Bud  |
i have thise one  but it's not really useful for accurate measurement as the dial goes up and down like a bunny hopping.. it's a bit to sensitive i think or the O2 signal is to wave like gr,b | ||
| Hogs |
Thanks Guys... Is it possible to just install their oxygen system as well, just down line from the buells , maybe one has to use their own product with this ... Seems they say you could install two sensors one in each header and with a switch go back and forth to get a reading from the front pipe and rear...something to think about | ||
| Craigster |
I had a K&N narrow band afew years ago..... I never got a steady reading out of it like they advertise. For the money I'd just cough up a few extra bucks and buy the inovative motorsports LSU4 unit and log the data....else buy an L1H1 NTK sensor and build a DIY-WB from http://www.diy-wb.com/ (I have LabView software for the DIY Unit if anyone has one and is interested) | ||
| Keith  |
Or you could go to a local shop with a dyno that has the air/fuel monitor and get a print out of hp, torque, A/F ratio, all against RPM. | ||
| Ingemar |
LOL | ||
| S1_lightning_nl  |
I use the one from AutoMeter. Got one sensor in the front header tube and one in the back. With a switch I can read front and back. Lights are pretty steady.....  | ||
| Hogs |
S1_lighting_nl thanks for the info wd. you have a web site for them??? So it reads good as you are driving , steady etc.etc. | ||
| S1_lightning_nl |
I bought mine at www.summitracing.com. Use a little silicon to make them waterproof. Cause the bike is carburated the gauge is more stable compared to the fuel injected models. | ||
| Peter  |
I also use an Autometer. A carb with a cable directly to the slide gives a more stable reading than a CV, especially at idle. | ||
| Craigster |
I still had trouble with stability on inline fours with Mikuni RS flatslides. The sensors are very cheap, quality seems to vary from sensor to sensor...they work, but really only good at 14.7 to 1. Try Techedge for LSU4 wideband controllers too. It's a rip-off of the DIY (hence all the warnings on the front page) but modified extensively for LSU4 operation. | ||
| Jerseyguy  |
Check out these websites as examples of what's out there. In my opinion you must have a separate wideband O2 sensor and a means to record the A/F ratio vs RPM while riding as well as software to to later display on a computer what you have recorded. To me a readout on the bike is of little practical value. The stuff is pricey, like $350 to $500 for some meaningful hardware to really get the job done. I'm in the process of figuring out which one of these I'm going to buy. If anybody knows of some other brands, please list them. http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products.php http://www.veypor.com/product.html http://www.widebandcommander.com/productinfo.htm | ||
| Hogs |
Thanks for that Info there ... Hmmm starting to sound expensive ... | ||
| Craigster |
http://www.techedge.com.au/ | ||
| Trenchtractor  |
Hey Craigster, funny a bloke from the US is recomending a site from Aus...  | ||
| Craigster |
The Tech edge stuff is pretty good. Very clean and professional. Unfortunately they stole their first product from the DIY-WBO2 project and P.O.'d a lot of people, kind'a gave them a bad name for a while, but the LSU4 controller is a good product and besides..no one has developed a DIY unit for LSU4s. To my knowledge they were the first ones with an aftermarket Bosch controller. Kudos to them. Can't knock the Australians. There's lots of good products (and folks) down under. I'm looking forward to a trip there should the semiconductor manufacturers purchase some tools for the Australian fabs! | ||
| Opto |
Craig, the Tech edge 2CO unit looks like a neat product and costs AUD$420 if you build the display. Are you recommending these units as one of the better value choices? I'm trying to convince myself to get one... | ||
| Craigster |
Opto, What's that come to in USD? Something like $325? Not a bad price considering the small size (that's the motorcycle unit if I remember correctly). If you run off an MS and do some datalogging with a Palm.....you wouldn't need any of the larger sef contained units (I'm thinking of the Inovative here as well). The Inovative in nice but big to stick on a bike especially for any longterm O2 correction. Not too shabby for wideband in a tiny package. I like it.  |
