| Author | Message | ||
     Blaster_s  |
Does anybody do this? I use to a lot on my ZX7R and last night I was just fooling around and shifted w/o the clutch and I really liked it. The engine stayed in the power band and just clicked to the next gear. I know we have Sportster trannies in our Blasts but it can't be good for the shift forks to not use the clutch. | ||
| Mmelvis  |
Only at the track, only on upshifts. I try not to do it going from 1st to 2nd gear, to many false neutrals for me. | ||
| Blaster_s |
Yeah, that's what I do: second through fifth gear. So you wouldn't recommend this for the street Mmelvis? | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
HD trannies were not built for clutchless speed shifting and are very different from the Jap bike trannies. I've read that its even better for the Jap trannies if you dont use the clutch when shifting (still dont believe that though). It can, of course, be done, but always a bad idea between 1st & 2nd gears. HOWEVER: the Blast engine has no trap door for the transmission.Therefore, if you blow the transmission you will have to disassemble the WHOLE engine to replace perhaps only 1 gear. Is clutchless speed shifting worth the risk on your street bike? | ||
| Burnmyheartdown |
Jap Bikes have wet clutches, I'm pretty sure ours aren't. Maybe that makes a difference? | ||
| Spooky  |
All Buell's have a wet clutch | ||
| Blaster_s |
Thanks for the advice guys. I think Ducati is the only manufacturer that employs dry clutches in production motorcycles. | ||
| Gearheaderiko |
Bmw uses a dry clutch. Single plate automotive style. (not on its 650 Rotax powered machines though) | ||
| Mmelvis |
Blaster_S I would not use speed shifting on the street really serves no purpose in my book. This is my opinion, there may be others. | ||
| Blaster_s |
Blaster_S I would not use speed shifting on the street really serves no purpose in my book. This is my opinion, there may be others. Understood. Thanks. | ||
| Jprovo  |
Speed shift all you want, I have been for almost 30,000 miles. It's a little bit quicker than pulling in the clutch, and saves your wrist from having to pull the clutch in. James | ||
| Naustin  |
I use the clutch on every shift, but I don't pull it all the way to the bar. I tend to do the same thing when I'm driving a car with a stick. Other than when I'm stopped or coming to a stop, I never give the clutch a full throw -- just enough to mostly disengage the engine from the gear box. It is almost as fast as speed shifting, and, I think, smoother and more natural than either granny or speed shifting and results in a seamless power transfer. I'm pretty sure that anyone who has ridden for a long time, or driven a stick habitually knows what I mean, and I'm also sure that almost everyone here shifts with the semi-speed method that I do whether they realize it or not. I've only speed shifted my bike once, and it was not on purpose. I wouldn't do it intentionally, because I can't believe that shifting that way does not cause some kind of undue harm on the transmission, and, as was said previously, it just isn't necessary on the street | ||
| Ninjabob |
on the note of speed shifting (I dont do it cuz I dont want to stretch my primary chain) the book just says adjust the primary, it never says replace. so if I dont replace the chain what do I replace/fix. that limiting screw goes in a little further every oil change and I dont think the bolt is getting shorter. im not quite ready to break open my case to do this. but Id like to be prepared when I do so. | ||
| Jprovo |
NinjaBob, You're probably wearing down the nylon chain guides. The chain will wear into them until the roller on the chain touch the ghude, then the wear slows don dramatically. They are pretty easy to replace. We really have nothin to worry about with the primary chain. The primary chain on the Blast is the same as the 1200 Buells. Our little 30Hp bikes will never stretch them as bad as an XB12 or a big bore 88 ci bike, and you don't hear about them replacing chains. 32000 Miles and still on the original primary. James |
