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Stealthxb
| Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 07:11 pm: |
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Stage 1 Complete:
Commandancy of the Alamo Bexar, Feby 24th, 1836 To the People of Texas and All Americans in the World-- Fellow Citizens and Compatriots I am besieged with a thousand or more of the Mexicans under Santa Anna. I have sustained a continual Bombardment and cannonade for 24 hours and have not lost a man. The enemy has demanded surrender at discretion, otherwise, the garrison is to be put to the sword, if the fort is taken. I have answered the demand with a cannon shot, and our flag still waves proudly over the wall. I shall never surrender or retreat. Then, I call on you in the name of Liberty, of patriotism, of everything dear to the American character, to come to our aid with all dispatch. The enemy is receiving reinforcements daily and will no doubt increase to three or four thousand in four or five days. If this call is neglected I am determined to sustain myself as long as possible and die like a solder who never forgets what is due his honor and that of his country. VICTORY OR DEATH William Barret Travis Lt. Col. Comd't P.S. The Lord is on our side -- when the enemy appeared in sight we had not three bushels of corn -- We have since found in deserted houses 80 or 90 bushels & got into the walls 20 or 30 head of Beeves. |
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| Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 07:39 pm: |
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| Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 07:43 pm: |
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Travis' stand at the Alamo is probably the center-point of many (Anglo) Texans' pride in their heritage, but don't forget Goliad or San Jacinto, either!
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Road_thing
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| Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 07:44 pm: |
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Whoa, who's the troll with the fish? |
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Stealthxb
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| Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 07:52 pm: |
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Remember Goliad! |
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Ray_maines
| Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 09:39 pm: |
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Oh Help! |
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Blake
| Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 10:43 pm: |
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The story is worth telling again for those who might not know it... quote:BATTLE OF THE ALAMO (March 6, 1836). After heavy bombardment of the Alamo by cannon fire, the Mexicans under General Santa Anna stormed the Alamo on the morning of March 6, 1836. About 1,800 assault troops advanced into range but concentrated cannon and rifle fire,from the Alamo walls caused the Mexican soldiers to halt and reform. Then they continued to drive forward. Col. Travis, among the first to die in the Alamo. Under overwhelming odds, the Texians were forced back off the walls of the Alamo where they withdrew to the dim rooms of the Long Barracks. There some of the bloodiest hand-to-hand fighting occurred. The assault lasted a little over an hour and an estimated 7 Texians survived the battle. True to form, Santa Anna ordered their execution. Currently, 189 defenders appear on the official list, but ongoing research may increase the final tally to as many as 257. SURVIVORS OF THE ALAMO Susanna Dickenson, the wife of one of the defenders, her baby, and a servant of Travis were spared to help spread the word of how futile it was to resist against the powerful Mexican army. Though Santa Anna had his victory, the common Mexican soldiers paid the price with killed and wounded estimated at about 600. GOLIAD MASSACRE Santa Anna and his army then set out in Search of Sam Houston’s army but met with little success. On March 27, 1836, the Mexicans captured Goliad and over 300 unarmed Texan prisoners were massacred. Sam Houston and his meager army of Texas of around 700 untrained soldiers retreated to east Texas in the spring of 1836. This tactic allowed more time for Houston to build up his army with volunteers that were arriving almost daily and to give the men time for much needed training. However, Houston’s troops were becoming increasingly impatient as they made their way through the Big Thicket in east Texas under the skillful guide of the Alabama Caushadda Indians who knew the region like the back of their hands. Meanwhile, Santa Anna with his large army and heavy cannon became bogged down in the wetlands of east texas. This led to a tactical mistake. He split his army up into several smaller armies and led a group of approximately a thousand men toward the coast to block any possible escape of Houston’s army by sea. BATTLE OF SAN JACINTO On the morning of April 19, 1836, Houston and his army reached Buffalo Bayou, a few miles southeast of present day Houston. The Texans crossed over and marched down the right bank of Buffalo Bayou to within half a mile of where the Bayou joined with the San Jacinto River. Here, the Texas army prepared their defenses on the edge of a grove of trees. Their rear was protected by timber and the bayou, while in front of them them was an open prairie. On the following morning (April 20), Mexican General Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna came marching across the prairie in battle array. Santa Anna was in no hurry as he had sent out runners to find some of his scattered armies and time to get more cannons in for the battle. The Texans fired a volley from the "Twin Sisters" artillery which brought Santa Anna’s army to a sudden halt.The Mexicans fell back to a clump of trees a quarter of a mile away where Santa Anna formed a line of battle. Colonel Sidney Sherman, at the head of the Texas cavalry, charged the Mexican army, but accomplished little except to inspire the Texans with fresh enthusiasm for the following day. Santa Anna was in no hurry as he had sent out runners to find some of his scattered armies and he needed time to get more cannons to arrive for the coming battle. TEXANS VICTORIOUS IN BATTLE FOR INDEPENDENCE AT SAN JACINTO On the morning of April 21, 1836, the Texas army numbering about 750 men were about to be engaged by 1500 of Santa Anna’s finest troups. Santa Anna was over confident because of the relatively easy successes he had enjoyed at the Alamo and Goliad missions where he had vast superiority in manpower and cannons and he failed to take into account the strategy that Sam Houston put into play. Without waiting for Mexican reenforcements to arrive , Houston sent Deaf Smith, the celebrated Texas spy, with two or three men, to destroy Vince's bridge over which the Mexican army had passed, which cut off any escape for the Mexicans. When Houston's long awaited order to advance was given, the Texans did not hesitate. When within seventy yards the word "fire" was given, the Texan shouts of "Remember the Alamo" and "Remember Goliad" rang along the entire line. Within 18 minutes, 700 Mexicans were slain, with another 730 taken as prisoners. The battle for Texas was won. They attacked Santa Anna's army while it was sleeping, and, in a battle lasting only 18 minutes, routed the Mexican army and captured Santa Anna. To obtain his release, he signed two treaties, recognizing Texas independence and promising never to fight Texas again.
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Blake
| Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 10:45 pm: |
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Oh yeah. Nice ink! ![: )](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/happy.gif) |
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Mr_grumpy
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| Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2004 - 02:36 pm: |
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I've been to the Alamo, It's a lot smaller than in the films. You get a good feel for the history of the place tho, but it's a bit too touristified for my taste. Damn hot too in June. ps, I have a Texas flag which flies over my garage sometimes, I alternate between Scots, Breton, Texas & now Newfie. |
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| Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2004 - 06:09 pm: |
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rt- that one o' them thar peacock bass? looks like a yeller perch on d-bol. road thang and blake- do texans view themselves more as southerners or as westerners, or just a separate country comprised of both, according to location? i gotta visit texas someday, just scared i wouldn't leave hell- mike judge (beavis and butthead, office space) is a texan! |
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| Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2004 - 06:16 pm: |
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The Republic is neither in the South nor West. It is in the center of the Universe!!! |
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Stealthxb
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| Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2004 - 06:21 pm: |
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but seriously Tramp... I would say most Texans consider themselves Southerners. But heed the differences between a cowboy and a redneck! Blake... add Texans to the spell check list |
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| Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2004 - 06:38 pm: |
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I'm no redneck, sir
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Glitch
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| Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2004 - 06:39 pm: |
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Nice ink BTW. |
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Stealthxb
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| Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2004 - 06:55 pm: |
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I'm no redneck, sir And I'm a poor excuse for a cowboy!
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| Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2004 - 09:25 pm: |
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Guess we'll just be the three percent. Best I could do for a flag.
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Stealthxb
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| Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2004 - 11:12 pm: |
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4 Life! |
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Tramp
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| Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 01:00 am: |
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what's all this 3%er mumbo-jumbo? -1%er |
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| Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 10:45 am: |
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Tramp,Buell represents 3% of H/D sales--- |
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Tramp
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| Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 10:52 am: |
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that's hilarious!!!! thank you, james. |
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Tripper
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| Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 12:24 pm: |
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Actually I just pulled that number out of my during a rant. Has anyone run the numbers to determine how close it is? Where's JoseQ? Another way to think of it is this... The average Bueller is just 2 steps above a 1%'er.
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Road_thing
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| Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 01:05 pm: |
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Trampster: Peacock bass is correct. You have a good eye for fish! Taken on Rio Negro, Brazil a couple of years ago. Texas: It's a big place. Down here in SE Texas, I'd say the vibe is more Southern, but out West, say El Paso or Amarillo, Western would be my answer. And yes, if you visit, there's a good chance you won't wanna leave. rt
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Tramp
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| Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 01:22 pm: |
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tripper said: "The average Bueller is just 2 steps above a 1%'er. " what's that supposed to mean? RT- fishing's second to just about nothin' in tramp's book |
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Court
| Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 02:23 pm: |
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>>Where's JoseQ? Likely laughing...3% is a huge overstatement. As much as we may chest pound and demand recognition, if the entire Buell revenue stream were an accounting error on Harley-Davidson's audit, under the accounting principle of materialty it would not rise to the level of correcting it. Now....that is rapdily changing. But in the big picture Buell, as compared to Harley-Davidson, would be like loosing a nickel from your suitcase of drug money. But...I like the 4% as a goal...imagine 120,000 Buell sold in a year.
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| Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 09:09 pm: |
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Correction: Another way to think of it is this... The average Bueller is just 2 steps REMOVED FROM a 1%'er. |
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| Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 09:12 pm: |
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HD sells 3 million bikes anually? I had no idea. Off to research starting a lifestyle company with antique engineering practices. |
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| Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 09:43 pm: |
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H-D is in the 300,000's and on its way to 400,000 annually. Only the Japanese sell in the millions. And the research on starting a similar company can start with the Excelsior story, followed by the Indian story. Actuaslly, I think these are volumes 1 and 2 of the same book: "How we bilked thousands of innocent investors out of hundreds of millions, pocketed large salries and then wrote books about it!" |
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| Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 10:19 pm: |
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Hey, anony: it's nice work if you can get it... The rest of us unfortunates will have to earn our daily bread honestly! rt (Message edited by road_thing on November 21, 2004) |
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Jlnance
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| Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 11:24 pm: |
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Off to research starting a lifestyle company with antique engineering practices. Vacuum tube amplifiers for audiophiles? |
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Court
| Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 04:31 am: |
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Tripper: Bad math on my part. HD's 2003 plan was to reach 200,000 by the 100th, they well exceeded that and, as pointed out, are on the way to 400,000. About they time they reach that goal, there will be a significant shift in the strategic value of Buell in the HD business mix, I'd wager. |
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Court
| Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 04:38 am: |
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>>>"How we bilked thousands of innocent investors out of hundreds of millions, pocketed large salries and then wrote books about it!" In the case of the Hanlons, you can add the state to that mix. They, in my personal opinions, were just plain scum. I have quite ill memories of they way they come on to the Buell staff at Daytona one year when they were there funneling some of the funds down the drain. The year Erik uttered the memorable "I did it the old fashioned way, I built a motorcycle first" (or words to that effect phrase). I still have a piece I wrote as background for an article in Forbes on "resurraected a marque" about the Triumph, Norton, Indian firms coming "back to birth". In short it was "if you don't have the market and the business case, no about of warm fuzzy memories will make it work". The only good thing the Hanlons did was populate our floor with Playboy Playmates from like the prior 10 months at Daytona that year. I thank them, Bill REALLY thanks them. Court |
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Tramp
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| Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 08:15 am: |
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i interviewed w/ cmc/injun when they were staring up as injun and i was weary of bmw service mgt. they called me back several times, and finally i thanked rey for his time and explained that i didn't feel it could work out. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy too much 'flash', administratively. really a creepy 'miami vice' episode feeling around that place, back then. |
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| Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 09:21 am: |
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it's a shame (in all senses) bout Exelsior, same same Indian -- good to see Victory still in the hunt (although not an apples to apples comparison, what with the deep pockets of Polaris behind that venture) -- I also spoke with Indian a couple of times, and got the same feeling Tramp did -- really glad I decided to walk away |
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Tripper
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| Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 11:41 am: |
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Motorcycle Unit Shipments & Net Revenue The following table includes wholesale motorcycle unit shipments and net revenue for the Motorcycles segment for the three months ended September 26, 2004 and September 28, 2003 (dollars in millions): 2004 2003 Increase (Decrease) % Change Motorcycle Unit Shipments Touring motorcycle units 21,818 21,071 747 3.5 % Custom motorcycle units* 39,857 33,011 6,846 20.7 Sportster ® motorcycle units 18,903 13,376 5,527 41.3 Harley-Davidson ® motorcycle units 80,578 67,458 13,120 19.4 Buell ® motorcycle units 2,472 2,481 (9 ) (0.4 ) Total motorcycle units 83,050 69,939 13,111 18.7 % Net Revenue Harley-Davidson motorcycles $ 996.6 $ 844.3 $ 152.3 18.0 % Buell motorcycles 18.3 20.5 (2.2 ) (10.5 ) Total motorcycles 1,014.9 864.8 150.1 17.4 Parts & Accessories 224.4 207.8 16.6 8.0 General Merchandise 61.4 60.5 0.9 1.4 Other 0.0 .5 (0.5 ) n.m. Net revenue $ 1,300.7 $ 1,133.6 $ 167.1 14.7 % |
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Tripper
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| Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 11:54 am: |
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Lets see.... 2,472 Buell units / 80,578 HD units = 3.06% (by unit volume) Hey whadya know, the Atlanta group can keep there name! Can I get naming royalties? Buell accounts for only 1.8% by sales volume. Swamped by Parts & Accessories. Tiny compared to General Merchandise. Your right Court, dropping Buell from the report might not trigger an audit. I guess Buell equates an R&D department. Lucky for us that they actually certify and sell the resulting work! I hope they are working on a Sport Tourer to widen the line offering. (what the hell did that have to do with a new tattoo?) |
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