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Rocketsprink
| Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 07:25 pm: |
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Thinking of getting the after market clip ons for my 12S. Anyone have any good or bad experiences? How is the install? A pain or straight forward. Thanks. |
BadS1
| Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 07:38 pm: |
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Rocket I had them on my old bike.Cross Roads bars and there great but I also know you like to ride and you may not like them for longer rides.They were just alittle uncomfortable for the long haul.Kinda why I went to the Moose bars on the XB wider and further forward.Feel more control I love them. |
BadS1
| Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 07:43 pm: |
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BTW I know you already rode my scoot with them on....maybe you didn't like them....maybe you did but maybe you need a longer ride on it to see if its what you might like. |
Rocketsprink
| Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 09:48 pm: |
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I did like the riding position of you bike Bds1, but didn't ride long enough to see how it would be on the long haul. I'm basically looking for a little more agressive riding position without having to trade to an R, which is always an option, but I don't know what kind of deal I'd get thru a dealer for a trade. I will consider the Moose bars though, but am still looking for some feed back from people that have don the conversion. |
Keith
| Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 09:53 pm: |
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I have the Crossroads on my XB9S. Here is what I wrote about them in my column, "From Cruiser to Sport Bike - An XB9S Rider's Log by Keith Thrash..." in the "Tale Section" of the BadWeB, "Crossroads Handlebars for the XB9S The stock riding position on the XB9S is great around town or on short trips. For extended riding at 70 mph or higher, it is simply too upright for me and I get tired of hanging on in the wind. I tried two different handlebars and they still did not do what I wanted, so I broke down and purchased the Crossroads from Dave Stueve, one of BadWeB’s sponsors (Harley-Davidson of Appleton). The kit arrived a few days later and was relatively easy to install. Although the instructions are very concise and clear, the Xeroxed photographs showing cable routing are not. As a result, my throttle did not work very freely. I emailed Crossroads and a couple of days later, I had the digital “originals” which allowed me to see the cable routing much more clearly. With said photos in hand, I was able to see that I had indeed incorrectly routed one of the throttle cables. After rerouting, the cables now work fine except for when the handlebars are turned full left lock. The left fork leg puts the cables in just enough of a bind that the throttle hangs. This only occurs at full left lock. The Crossroads routing of the clutch cable puts it in a bit of a bind as well. However, frequent application of cable lube keeps this from being a problem." I've posted pictures of the installation there too. Keith |
Daves
| Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 10:00 pm: |
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And, I have a set in stock! Dave daves@h-dappleton.com |
BadS1
| Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 10:40 pm: |
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Thats telling us that you don't like to be in the wind and how to install them.But they really aren't for the long haul.I know at least three others that have had them on tubers and there great for aggressive riding but thats it.You go ride a 300 mile day or even 250 for that matter and they begin to suck.Just my two cents. |
R1DynaSquid
| Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 10:49 pm: |
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I agree, I have Crossroads on my X1 & for B-trax or a track day they are pretty good. But for any lengthy riding they do suck. Start to become very uncomfortable after 75 miles or so. Just for kicks I went out & sat on both bikes to compare..unfortunately its dark or I would have had the wife take pics showing the differences, but the X1 is much more radical in its ergo's with the Crossroads than the supposedly race rep R1 is. Get em if you must, but unless you are some sorta circus freak contortionist, you will be hurting after awhile. |
Wyckedflesh
| Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 10:57 pm: |
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Why thank you Dyna I appreciate the sentiment. I had crossroads on my bike before I converted it to the firebolt front and could still ride from PHoenix to San Diego. 380 miles door to door. Then still ride around San Diego. The bars themselves are at a slightly more angled position inward which can get uncomfortable on the wrists. I countered it by having both bars bent about 2-3 degrees outward with the bend at the point between the brake master and throttle as well as the clutch lever and switchgear. |
Daves
| Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 11:01 pm: |
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"I'm basically looking for a little more agressive riding position without having to trade to an R" Sounds to me that's what he wants. Not saying your choice in bars is wrong for you BadS1 but it doesn't sound like that's what RS is looking for. I have not ridden a S with the Xroads bars on but it looks to me they put you about where the R bars are only a little higher? I've done 400-500 miles days on a R models several times with no problems with comfort. Of course that's just me, YMMV. Going to do a 350 mile or so day Oct 3rd for the Slimey Crud Run. You going? Be good to see you! Dave |
BadS1
| Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 11:25 pm: |
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Yeah I know Dave but I've ridden a R and I've ridden with cross roads on a tuber and they are different.The Crud run I doubt it.Packer season at the Boiler Room I get to Grill and all that kinda crap for the games on Sundays. |
Trojan
| Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 03:56 am: |
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I've just fitted a set of Crossroads 54mm clipons to my S model and there are a few things you would need to do to make them fit. I fitted mine above the top triple clamp. The screen/headlight/instrument assembly has to be spaced out away from the triple clamp to allow the bars to fit. I did this using some alloy tube and longer bolts. The only disadvantage is that the steering lock will no longer work. Also the clutch cable needs to be re-routed and no longer feeds through the hole in the top clamp. I changed the clutch cable to an earlier type that has a steel cable guide attached at the lever end to give a better cable run. You may wish to fit a shorter front brake line also, although the stock one can be retained. |
Glitch
| Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 10:10 am: |
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Do you have any pics of that set up Trojan? |
Trojan
| Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 12:24 pm: |
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I have a couple of the unfinished project but it'll give an idea of the riding position. I know the bars a crooked as they are not yet tightened up
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Glitch
| Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 12:38 pm: |
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Big thanks! You didn't have to move the fork tubes up the triple clamp? If you didn't, this way looks best to me so far. Thanks again! |
Fed
| Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 01:08 pm: |
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A.S.B. sells these #9074 |
Glitch
| Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 01:29 pm: |
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Thanks Fed, but I want to have some adjustment available. |
Keith
| Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 01:56 pm: |
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Thats telling us that you don't like to be in the wind and how to install them.But they really aren't for the long haul.I know at least three others that have had them on tubers and there great for aggressive riding but thats it.You go ride a 300 mile day or even 250 for that matter and they begin to suck.Just my two cents." I disagree. You can't compare the Crossroads riding position on the XB to the Crossroads riding position on a tube frame. Two different animals. And, I don't care what you do on a Lightening, you're gonna be in the wind (short of putting a windshield on). However, this riding position balances out quite nicely at 65 through about 85 mph so there is little load on your wrists. I've done several 400 plus mile days with this set up and it is far more comfortable than the stock XB9S riding position. And, the riding position is *NOT* as leaned forward as the XB "R" version is. I don't mean to sound like this is *the* solution to aftermarket handlebars. I just don't want the facts to be misrepresented. Trojan, what clutch cable did you use? That might cure my binding problem. Keith (Message edited by skully on September 08, 2004) |
Dago
| Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 02:10 pm: |
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I have the Crossroads bars on my S and prefer them over the stock position. But in my view, that's not saying much. I like the angle to which I lean forward. But I do not like the downward angle of the bars themselves. All of my weight is focused on the fleshy areas between my thumb and index finger. This is unlike the setup on the R1 and others. They position the bars so that the weight of your torso is distributed across your entire palm. In regards to longevity, as long as I maintain highway speeds, the wind resistance takes enough of the weight off to stay fairly comfortable all day long. But all day around town would be a killer. -- |
BadS1
| Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 02:38 pm: |
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Trojan what tail kit is that pictured above.Could you email me a link and price??? |
Rocketsprink
| Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 05:47 pm: |
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OK. Are the Crossroads the ones they sell on American Sport Bike site. Does Crossroads have their own site. What price are we talking Dave. It won't be done till winter so I'm not in a huge hurry. Got to put the new garage heater to the test. I really appreciate all the ideas, keep them coming please. |
Tbs_stunta
| Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 06:50 pm: |
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Trojan, a couple of questions (this is for my Triumph). I'm using LSL clipons mounted above the triple trees. The block are around 1.75" tall which means I really have to drop the forks t accommodate. Which bars are the ones in the post where you said they were crooked? How tall are they where they grip the forks? And are they available for 43mm regular forks? Thanks. |
Black_sunshine
| Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 07:01 pm: |
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Rocket...I sure this has been mentioned, if so disreguard. If you want an easy cheaper way to get a more aggressive position just use some low rise motorcross bars. I did that and it lowered my riding position about 3" inches. It just cost 30 bucks and no mods were made to existing cables. Took about an hour to do. I love the riding position for short or long rides. I can post a pic later if you want. |
Wyckedflesh
| Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 07:03 pm: |
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TBS they are from Crossroads. http://www.nvo.com/crossroads/pages/store/skudetail.nhtml?profile=displayroom&ui d=10071&catuid=10067&returnURL=http%3A//www.nvo.com/crossroads/displayroom/categ ory.nhtml%3Fcatuid%3D10067
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Torqer
| Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 07:36 pm: |
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my approach.. a major pain in the @ss. The triple off the R. I had to pull the engine to get it done. |
Rocketsprink
| Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 07:38 pm: |
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Black, please post pics. The more the better. Not sure what route I'm taking yet, so I'd like to see all options. Thanks. |
Black_sunshine
| Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 07:46 pm: |
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Rocket...I will post them from work tomorrow. |
Rocketsprink
| Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 07:48 pm: |
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Sweet! Thanks. |
BadS1
| Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 07:49 pm: |
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Rocket you already seen Moto-X bars on.Black doesn't need to post ypu rode with the Moose Racing bars on mine.They are the CR low bend.Sell them at Uke's $20.00 at Uke's dirt store. |
Rocketsprink
| Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 07:56 pm: |
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Has anyone tried the set thru American Sport Bike? Unless I'm looking at the picture all wrong, they seem to be different than the Crossroads, Saw a 9 earlier this year at Ukes with Illinois plates. I think they had the A.S.B. bars on. Never saw it after that. |