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Kenb
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Didn't see him in practice this morning, what's the scoop ?
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Outrider
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not a Buell friendly track???

Just kidding. Am as interested as you are. Can't wait to hear the story. Heck, maybe I will wander the four miles over to Hal's and ask.

Sure is a great day for a ride!
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Kenb
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike Barnes qualified 8th and Randy Rega 21st no Mike C. though. Wish them luck tomorrow !!
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Turnagain
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What's on Speed:

This Sunday (Eastern):
12:00 pm AMA SUPERBIKE Mid-OhioDay 1
1:00 pm AMA SUPERSPORT Mid-Ohio (LIVE)
2:00 pm MOTOGP WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP British Grand Prix (SDD)
3:00 pm AMA SUPERBIKE Mid-OhioDay 2 (LIVE)


August 3
1:00 pm AMA FORMULA XTREME MOTORCYCLES Mid-Ohio __

hopefully 'the schedule is subject to change'.

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Anonymous
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike hurt himself riding dirt bikes and can't ride under doctor's orders. Darn!
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Daves
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm available

Dave
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And ya'll think I have a big ego?: D
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Daves
Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, I could come in last place!

Dave
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Easyflier
Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

At least he wasn't hurt in a freak snowmobile accident. : )
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 02:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hope Mike heals up quickly.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 07:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>Mike hurt himself riding dirt bikes

Dear Anonymous Poster:

I'm not going to mention a SPECIFIC ankle, a specific vintage HD MX250 or a specific event in Topeka, KS, but why does that phrase sound so familiar?

Court (still feeling bad over what happened to Jason Pridmore, the following year at the same event in Topeka...he ended up being out for the entire year)
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Court
Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 07:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

By the way, best wishes to Mike for a speedy recovery, he's doing a bangup job representing Buell.
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José_quiñones
Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Interesting rumor running around the Mid-Ohio Paddock, from superbikeplanet.com


quote:

The rumor has it that the premier AMA roadracing class could change to a 600/Formula Xtreme-type class for 2006. And the rumor that the 2005 Daytona 200 will be run on FX machines just keeps rolling along.




Anonymous, why was Shawn Higbee not given a chance to ride Mike's bike for the weekend? He's at the track, he still works for Buell, he's got a long history with the Hal's team, why not?

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Kenb
Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the info guys, speedy recovery to Mike C. and good luck to Mike B. today.
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Anonymous
Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Shawn's Superbike team wouldn't let him, as they have a rider running in Formula Extreme on a Suzuki, and it would be real likely Shawn would beat him. Also, there's lot's of pressure from Suzuki not to have riders of their bikes ride Buells...long story regarding Morgan Broadhead of Suzuki.
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Outrider
Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Annon and anyone that has decision making ability:

It truly is a shame that Hal's team is prevented from competing this weekend for those reasons.

The bottom line is I would like to see the Buell Race Teams get all the exposure they can regardless of track configuration and incidents like these.

Concerning the faster tracks with the long straights, perhaps finding a way of recording and posting times through the tight turns would be a way to develop "real world" interest in Buell's product offering.

Quite simply, I contend there are more folks out there that would buy a Buell if these times were known and that not everyone wants a bike that runs 170+ in the the straights but is slow in the twisties.

Get creative with the timing equipment and prove your point about Buell's being designed for the real world. Sure would be positive PR if the race commentators (the old Jackie Stewart types) were saying things like "Wow, look at that Buell work the tight stuff. Now that is a bike for the street rider."

Get my drift?
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So long as the person looking at the bikes lives near Deals Gap or some other similar area. Far too many of us live where its nothing more than city riding & a lot of gridwork.

I can see the sales pitch for "fast in the twisties" failing miserably in Florida, N.Dakota, Kansas, Oklahoma, SE Wisconsin.

Railing thru the curves is fun no doubt about that. But unfortunately we dont all live anywhere near curves.
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Kenb
Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike B. was running pretty well as high as 4th till he had a mechanical, shame. Randy Rega was listed as being on a Yami, thought he rode a Buell?
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Anonymous
Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, Mid Ohio was a perfect track to displaythe Buell handling. The bumpiness of the track really allowed the Buell's strengths to show (and put Zemke on the ground). A top 5 was definitely in the cards 'til the motor broke. Oh well, we're getting there.

Oh, and Dyna, there's plenty of curvy roads in all those places you mentioned, besides the hoot of squirting through traffic, etc. 172 mph isn't real world riding.
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Please give me a link to a map showing the roads around here. And im not talking 2 hrs north in the Kettle. Any fun decent roads are few & far between.

I have been on the roads in the smokeys & in the New england area & even our twistiest road would be considered a straight line in those places.

The western portion of the state along the mississippi river has some nice roads tho.

And Florida..ah yes, who can forget 11 curves in 318 miles?: D
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M1combat
Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think that's a brilliant idea... I think the announcers should start quoting times coming out of the most important corner (which ever corner it is that leads onto the longest straight). It's always irked me that they place soo much emphasis on a top speed trap.
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Crusty
Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have been on the roads in the smokeys & in the New england area & even our twistiest road would be considered a straight line in those places.

Dyna, if you'd come out here in June, I would have shown you some roads you'd still be talking about. Of course, the invitation is always open...

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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All in due time Crusty. Been a hectic year & its going to get even worse once we start moving equipment out of the plant. Havent ever done a relocation deal. Excited & nervous as hell at the same time.

Be nice if they would make up their damn minds where we are going tho..madison/menasha/madison/menasha/madison.
I think we are all getting ulcers from it.
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bill,
The Buell is not down on top speed as much as you might imagine. I think Mike was clocked 4th fastest trap speed recently out of all the FX field, just 3mph down from Miguel on the HRC ractory Honda machine.

Dyna,
Straight or twisty roads, I'd rather be on a Buell than any other motorcycle. I think most here feel the same way. So feel free to cease the put-down niggling. You don't seem to get it. This is a Buell enthusiast's site. You never miss an opportunity to try to put down Buells. Time to move on with your life.
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake, I was putting down the roads we live near not the bike. Geez, lighten up already ya crab.
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Outrider
Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake...Just a note to let you know that I don't have a clue other than what I read on the BWB concerning top speeds.

My point was that Buell's apparently do excel in the tight stuff and I was thinking that if they could set up the timing equipment on the nasty sections they could document their machines prowess in that situation and flaunt it to their best advantage.

I don't want to go 170 (anymore), but I do love to make a bike dance in the twisties and my X1 does an excellent job of that. I can just imagine what the XB series does.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 06:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>I can see the sales pitch for "fast in the twisties" failing miserably in Florida, N.Dakota, Kansas, Oklahoma, SE Wisconsin

I can speak to Kansas and Oklahoma and assure you there are many wonderful roads. I used to take a ride out Higwhay 4 from my home in West Topeka each day.

I had a Buell test bike (B-031) that I used to take on the same course around Perry Lake and through Jefferson and Leavenworth County. The roads that connect McLouth and Easton are better than they appear on maps.

Oklahome is less familair to me, but I never missed a chance to play, on the way from my Topeka office to the Dallas office, in the Arbuckle Mountains. Some here recall teh hilarious tale of me loosing the Adsis Shield on the Arai Quantuum at 2AM on the way to Ft. Worth to do Buell Demo Rides at the coliseum. Go to Exit 51 on I-35, get off and trun right or left. Either way, you'll have fun.

Dallas......er, that's another story. We'll talk later.

: )
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what happened to barns on lap 12?
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Anonymous
Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't know yet, but the engine quit running. No big bang, no oil leaks, but something in the motor went.
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

oh ok thanks i cant exactly watch the races on tv or at the track cuz im in iraq. so the only way i get to find out is on the ama website, and i was looking at the lap chart and it showed him running pretty good untill then, so i was wondering if he recked or somethign but i see it was engine truble
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Anonymous
Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

283,

Happy to pass on the news. Take care over there, and know that you are admired and appreciated. Next race seasson when you are back here, expect to see plenty of better Formula Extreme finishes for Buell! We are getting there!
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks anon hell its good to see yall doing as good as yall are and come hell or high water next year im going to try to make it to at least one race
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Outrider
Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

expect to see plenty of better Formula Extreme finishes for Buell! We are getting there!

I am so looking forward to that! I admire what you have accomplished to date and wish you the best for the future.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Firebolt:

send me an address I can mail to. We have a special BUELL U.S. SOLDIER KIT I'll get on the way. Includes a Press CD of all the 2005's so you'll know WHAT you'll be buying when you get home.

Folks all over the Buell world are behind you my friend!

Court Canfield
(UNOFFICIAL Goodwill ambassador and not associated with Buell American Motorcycles or Boar's Head All Beef Franks)
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Crusty
Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

expect to see plenty of better Formula Extreme finishes for Buell! We are getting there!

I am so looking forward to that! I admire what you have accomplished to date and wish you the best for the future.

I think that could be said by nearly everyone on this site. The one thing that would make me happier than seeing a Buell rider on the top of the box, is seeing a Buell rider win the championship. Of course, then all the DOHC I-4 lovers would scream that Buell had an unfair advantage. Sometimes you can't win, even when you win.
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Outrider
Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Crusty...I don't think anything will please everyone. Just peruse the BWB's politcal and war threads for living proof. LOL

Inline 4's vs Twins. Is a Technological Battle with a few handicaps tossed in to help the Twins. For a long time folks hated Ducati for barging in and then gradually warmed up to the product and personalities behind them.

Can't wait for Buell to be hated the same as Ducati was!
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gee José, I often trek four hours just to get to some of the great twisty roads in Oklahoma.

My lung bursting rib shattering crash in the Spring of '99 happened on one of many a wicked decreasing radius turn on Skyline Drive in Oklahoma.

Dang, just saw young Scott Beckley's crash on SpeedTV. That is one really tough kid and a fellow CMRA racer. Hope he's okay.

Looks like Mid-Ohio wasn't thinking too much about motorcycle racing when they made repairs to the track.
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I gotta say, SpeedTV is doing a much better job of showcasing the riders. They can still do better, but man, my wife was actually just in here enjoying the coverage of our local hero, Ben Spies and of Scott's crash.

Way to go SpeedTV and Greg White.

Way too much carnage. 2nd red flag.
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Danny Eslik, another CMRA racer, running in first privateer spot. Cool.

Must be all that rough and nasty Oak Hill experience. : )
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