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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
How much mercury do I need to pull?
Doesn't seem I need a very big pump.
Would a manual hand pump do?
Getcher mind outta th' gutter!
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Black_sunshine
Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
If your talking about a Sweedish Penis Pump...not good enough. Since most of these shapes have some big contours, you need to pull at full atmosphere. That is about 27-28lbs of mercury. Basically you want the most vacuum you can pull. You can get a pump that is about he size of a shoe box. Grainger has them for about $140.00. Put a few fittings on them and a rubber hose and connect them to your lamination jig that will hold your cast. I have the chin faring on the bike and it looks good. If I say so myself! I will e-mail torqer the pics in the morning.
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New12r
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 06:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
B_S, nice work on the chin fairing, looks like carbon fiber is getting popular in the group.
I cant wait to see the pics tonight.

charlie
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Black_sunshine
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 07:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
I figured out how to shrink my pics. Here it is the final product!



sorry technical problem.
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Black_sunshine
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 07:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 07:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Looks really good!
Soon you'll have the first all carbon XB in GA.
Ya bastidge! I'm jealous!
Can you get a different color?
What I was thinkin' is do a "points cover."
Do two layers. Fist one the usual black.
The second in a lighter color cut in the shape of a 3% logo.
Or if no other is available cut the logo with the grain goin in a different direction. Kind of a ghost logo.
Whatchathink?
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Black_sunshine
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 07:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
I just used resin with no pigment. If you do use a color it just get in between the fibers. Looks weird.

The logo sounds difficult. It would take some practice and a steady hand with the dremel tool.




I backed the piece with that insulating tape and gave it a hard quick romp last night. It got hot but I believe that it will hold up to the heat of the header.

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Black_sunshine
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Does anyone know if the rear tire has to be removed in order to remove the belt guard(s)?

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Torqer
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Glitch do you know anyone with a $500,000 CNC router table? That would make it easy to get the logo in there. I used to operate one at my last job. Hoe ever I do not have any good contacts there any more.
B_S: man you ought to be proud of yourself... That looks really good. It is on the wrong bike though. I thought you wanted to see how it looks on a red 12s. Now that you have the cast, how many vacuums will it withstand?
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Black_sunshine
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Thanks....It goes better with the black..

The cast will take as many as you want as long as you be careful cutting off the laminate. You can always repair the cast w/ more plaster.

I can call some people and probably locate a CNC.
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Torqer
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
B_S: if you are trying to locate one and are asking questions...keep in mind that in order to do something so small with detail like the 3% logo, it is important that the table have a vacuum system to hold the Carbon fiber material down as the router pushes it's blade through. If it does not, the material will get pushed around some (even with clamps) and the integrity of the design will be lost.

Did anyone watch the UPN last night at 10:30? I fell asleep at 10:22. : ( It was not on Monday night.
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Torqer
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Okay no one has asked and maybe you haven't had time to think about it... how much is mine going to cost. Remember I have an extra of each piece of body work... including the intake you were talking about the other day.
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Torqer
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Not that it should affect the price to me... I'm just here for any help I can give.
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Black_sunshine
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
I'm all about the barter system. If you got something I want and I got something you want we can work something out. Not necessarily cash. And NO, I won't trade for sexual favors you sick people. Although, everyone has a price?

I haven't thought about price. I will have to factor in material cost and Labor. I will also have to do it after hours. I was pushin' it doing the pieces during work. Right now I am doing the trials on my bike so I won't fcuk up yours. You can't rush perfection, ya know!
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
OK, this is more of what I was talking about.
No need to CNC the logo, cut before the layup.

B_S, we need to talk.
I was thinking of making parts to put out for selling. That's why my big intrest in this.
Ya wanna go in on this together?
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Black_sunshine
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
GLitch...once you cut a dry fiber it would be hard to keep them together once it wet out. I don't think you could see it. You might have to laminate a sheet, cut out the logo and do a second lamination with just resin to bond together.

Yeah...lets talk I could always use some cash and a third job.
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
When can we meet?
I'm free pretty much whenever I need to be.
Just let me know when you'll have a chance to sit down and chat.
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
I just had an idea.
Emboss the logo in the mold.
Yeah that's it.
I gotta get that vacuum soon.
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Along4theride
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Man you guys are making my head hurt.
But your bikes will look pretty sweet to say the least.

Michael let me ride his bike last night and well Ummm... Pete I need to get with you and ride a 12 now. Do you think I could do that??
I get off at 2 the rest of this week can we work something out???
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Black_sunshine
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Glitch...I will be leaving for Florida on business tomorrow @ 3:00 and will not return until Sunday afternoon. I am also working at the Gym tonight.



So it looks like Next week sometime.

Along4theride...all the chicks tell me that! Is that bad?

edited by black_sunshine on July 14, 2004
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