| Author | Message | ||
     Jaimec |
I REALLY hope they can make it. I'd love the chance to see a Fllow in the flesh. https://thepack.news/fuell-inc-has-entered-into-ch apter-7-bankruptcy-proceedings/ | ||
| Ratbuell |
I think anything electric is taking a hit right now. That whole "bursting into flames" thing is not good for the industry. Not that Erik is having those issues...but I know a lot of people who hear "electric" and think "Car-b-queue". | ||
| Hootowl |
You keep saying that, but the reality is: https://electrek.co/2022/01/12/government-data-sho ws-gasoline-vehicles-are-significantly-more-prone- to-fires-than-evs/ | ||
| Tpehak |
Electric vehicles are the safest vehicles. It is just like airplanes are the safest transportation while people keep thinking that cars are safer than airplanes. Yes an airplane crash is more violent than a car crash just like battery fire is more violent than gasoline fire, but they are still safer. There is a difference between violence and danger but most people keep thinking violence and danger are the same. (Message edited by TPEHAK on October 21, 2024) | ||
| Tpehak |
Electric vehicles are just like coronavirus, violent but not dangerous. | ||
| Jaimec |
It's the old "Man bites dog" theory. A gasoline car bursting into flame is such a common occurrence that the media doesn't bother covering it anymore, whereas an electric vehicle bursting into flame is novel enough to warrant attention. I was stuck in traffic two weeks ago on Interstate 81 in Virginia when a gasoline car fire shut down the entire northbound side for HOURS. | ||
| Blake |
And then there are the hydrogen cars. Trump is hilarious when he talks about the risks associated with hydrogen cars. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/09/30 /trump_the_new_thing_is_hydrogen_fuel_cell_cars_bu t_the_problem_is_they_blow_up.html | ||
| Aesquire |
Oh, the Humanity! | ||
| Rick_a |
Lithium-ion polymer batteries are fickle beasts. They can gas off if ran down too far, and can ignite if overcharged, physically damaged, shorted, or if they've simply gotten old and the internal resistance has built up. Definitely best to store the battery in a safe place. The big ones, preferably...not in or near your home. | ||
| Hootowl |
Lithium ion polymer batteries are not flammable. Lithium ion batteries are. Lipo uses a polymer electrolyte, Lithium ion batteries use a liquid electrolyte. | ||
| Buellerxt |
When electrics catch fire, they are hell to put out! https://www.thestar.com/ev-fires-are-worse-but-far -less-frequent-than-gas-powered-car-fires/article_ ac5b9f2a-9219-11ef-bd52-1fb9b6907d8e.html | ||
| Aesquire |
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tp0FFY4oBsg Don't get complacent with Lithium Polymer batteries, either. There's safer, and safe is imaginary. Yes, harder to light up. TRUE! I suggest a nail gun and a pure Oxygen environment, like doing a home repair in an Oxygen tent. But first, enjoy a cigar, and save others the extra mess. They still remember my OSHA required safety briefing at the Fire department near my old job at the machine shop that did exotic metals. "Don't look into the bright white light" & "Don't spray water on the bright white light. It will explode. The water will explode. The light will just get brighter..." come on, this is like the "airplanes are safer" arguments. E-car fires are rare except like when that lot full of Fiskars got flooded by the storm surge of salt water. Most gasoline car fires ( on the road ) are electrical & plastics, if the gas catches, it's late in the process and REDACTED PARAMEDIC HUMOR. Repair shop fires, that's a different story. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=78ZTRBXa5uQ | ||
| Aesquire |
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M-3pD5Eu_VA I really torqued off my GP Doctor last year by putting "try unplugging me & plug me back in" on the form she asked for. I did apologize. I've hung out too much with EMTs, and too often for comfort, give the emotionless short explanation to them as they arrive and prepare to tell me when it's ok to walk away, or Worse, let go of that artery I'm holding. My first ( And so far only, thank any deity you choose ) head not still on body first on scene was in a motorcycle helmet. A black Shoei. You remember that stuff. It was scuffed. Yeah, that's a polite word. And there were those 2 separate skydiving... Never mind. So if my sense of humour is occasionally...um, off? Please forgive. | ||
| Aesquire |
Bottom line is any energy dense storage form, has a lot of untapped power. Hopefully until you use it safely as intended. But it's not simply the watts per gram that determines risk. Gasoline alone has had a lot of variation in risk factors this last century. How volatile the vapors, how bad a slow poison for skin contact, etc. all depends. Back in the day, hot rodders could go to the airport and get stupidly high lead content 145-ish "Octane rating" gas. Sure, it takes grease off the part, but you get lead poisoning on top of the chemical burn on your hands. Damhik.  When the Smithsonian guys dragged a 50+ year old FW-190 out of the lot to be restored, the German synthetic fuel in the tank was still good. They ran it in an engine. But there's no MSDS & disposal was a paperwork nightmare. I even remember when the Operation Paperclip German rocket guys built a Hydrogen -Fluorine engine, because, most power possible, and tested it. Once. I don't recall what part of New Mexico was uninhabitable for months... | ||
| Hootowl |
Fluorine chemistry. For scientists with a death wish. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
Not a good look for Erik. More than a few people who put down deposits are pissed off. |
