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R1DynaSquid
| Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 07:14 pm: |
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Literally lost his head on saturday here in town. 3 riders all on late 97 Kawi Ninjas..they didnt give the cc's in the paper. 45 mph zone & they were racing, estimates from onlookers was "well over 100". One fellow lost control...hasnt been reported yet as why he lost control, locked up the brakes & left 450 feet of skidmarks followed by 400-500 feet of scrape marks as he tumpled down the road. Of course luck being what it is, he rolled into the oncoming lane of traffic & was run over by an oncoming car & dragged for another 100'. Paramedics had to jack the car up & remove the tire in order to remove his head..which was no longer attached to his body & was wedged in the wheelwell. BTW...no helmet..although I dont think it woulda mattered in this case. I can see the sheriffs cracking down for the next few months now.
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M1combat
| Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 07:43 pm: |
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Yeah, and next they'll stop showing IOM-TT racing on TV... Punks. A friend of mine got REALLY lucky the other day. A guy turned in front of him on his Rigid '76 Sportster. He took the bike down on it's right side and missed the car. In most cases I would slap someone and tell them they didn't have to take the bike down but it's a VERY low sportster. The low parts on the left are the brake linkages (lean too far and it locks the rear tire) and on the right the low part is the shift linkage (lean too far and it starts ratcheting you down to first gear). Of course he wasn't wearing his leather like he usually does and he wasn't wearing a helmet (never does). He was going slow and rode the bike until it slid to a stop but he's got a few exhaust burns and a little bit of road rash. He said when the Ambo got there he just asked if he had hit his head. They said no, he refused the ride to the ER. We went and picked up the bike later (totaled) and he's healing nicely (nicely enough that when I thumped him un the gut he only winced instead of yelped ). Anyway, I'm sorry the guy lost his life. Speed is almost always a factor. Who really does 35 in a 35? It's almost always 40 or so... |
Jaredkuper
| Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 07:43 pm: |
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Ouch. Remind me to race far from oncoming traffic. Or not at all. |
Ocbueller
| Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 07:50 pm: |
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Missed a deer by inches the other day. A rider one town away hit one and was run over by an SUV this past weekend. Time to go hunting. SteveH |
Charlieboy6649
| Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 07:57 pm: |
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May sound harsh, but, you get what you deserve. I feel sorry for the driver of the car. Think, to go through that! Speed kills, we're all addicted to it; but we must remember the consequences of speed. A friend of mine also lost his head, literally, when he, while speeding, went into a flatbed. Head over the trailer, body under. |
Iamike
| Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 09:26 pm: |
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Sounds like the SQUID I saw the other day. Pulling wheelies on a real busy 4-lane with driveways every 50 feet. Too many old people going in and out to take a chance on that. Of course no helmet, shorts, t-shirt |
Johncr250
| Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 09:37 pm: |
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I must say 450ft of skid marks is impressive. Plus another 400 in scrape marks? That sounds like about 130mph to me, conseratively speaking. Sometimes we all forget how easily we can Check Out of this world. |
R1DynaSquid
| Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 09:37 pm: |
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I feel sorry for the driver of the car. One of the medics on the scene puked. They have never seen anything like it. The guys face was literally pulled off his head also. All the paper gave was a sanatized version about hitting a car & being pronounced dead. Guy I work withs girlfriend is an EMT & was on the scene..although she wasnt the one who puked or had to remove the poor guys head. |
Bads1
| Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 09:54 pm: |
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Where did it happen???What Street???Its funny my wife didn't hear about it.I'll have to ask her about it in the morning when she gets home. |
Outrider
| Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 10:32 pm: |
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No sympathy, empathy, or any thing else. Don't care who it was or who he left behind. The guy died doing what he liked to do. Too bad he wasn't better at it. |
Outrider
| Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 10:35 pm: |
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That would be either mentally or physically. |
R1DynaSquid
| Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 11:02 pm: |
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Dana, Greenbay rd & L here in K-town. Thats about 3/4 mile south of E. |
Bads1
| Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 11:29 pm: |
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Damn I was out that way doing some work Saturday afternoon to. |
R1DynaSquid
| Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 11:33 pm: |
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I rode right thru there about an hr before it happened. |
Blake
| Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 07:53 am: |
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After doing a 120 mph wheelie on your own Jap hyperbike. Looking at the bright side though, the guy was racing and he ended life ahead.
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Blake
| Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 07:57 am: |
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it's a VERY low sportster. The low parts on the left are the brake linkages (lean too far and it locks the rear tire) and on the right the low part is the shift linkage (lean too far and it starts ratcheting you down to first gear). And the reason why such ridiculously modified street bikes are stupid and dangerous. Hope your friend figures that out. If you cannot perform a routine avoidance maneuver due to lack of ground clearance, you are begging for trouble. |
R1DynaSquid
| Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 09:02 am: |
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1 difference between myself & him..well actually several. #1. I had my helmet on #2. I was on a basically abandoned road #3. Not racing anyone but myself #4. I know how to apply the brakes on a bike & stop without resorting to "laying it down". That guy gambled & lost. Do I feel sorry for him? Not really, its his own damn fault. |
Glitch
| Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 09:16 am: |
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The guy died doing what he liked to do. I know what you mean to say, it's just when ever I hear that said, I always ask myself, who likes wrecking their bike? |
Mikej
| Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 09:25 am: |
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If you're going to die: 1. Try not to mess up anyone else's day in the process. 2. Try not to take anyone else out with you. 3. Try not to leave a mess for anyone else to clean up. 4. It's best to die in your sleep at a ripe old age dreaming of days gone by. |
Torqer
| Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 09:42 am: |
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I remember a day when everyone felt sorry for a fat guy who was getting the business end of a series of jokes. No one jumping to feel the loss of a dead squid? How about his buddies watching him die. We've all done something more than courageous (stupid). I don't think I'd shrug my shoulders and say "he went out doing what he loved" if one of my riding buddies lost it all to a wheelie. I didn't know the guy... but someone did. |
Uwgriz
| Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 09:50 am: |
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The Racine paper had a different account - They said he came over a hill to find a car in front of him and he locked up the brakes but still couldn't stop in time. I've never had too much faith in that paper, but that was the story they ran. |
R1DynaSquid
| Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 10:23 am: |
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It was sanitized for public consumption. |
Mikej
| Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 10:24 am: |
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Torquer, Agreed fully. |
Blake
| Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 02:31 am: |
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"Ahead"... a head, get it? |
Steve_a
| Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 12:56 pm: |
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450 feet of skidmarks followed by 450 feet of scrape marks implies a speed somewhere between 95 and 134 mph, ignoring any other slowing from impacts during the course of the event and any changes of elevation. The low end assumes rear wheel only braking during the skid, which is damn unlikely for 450 feet -- you'll go through a rear tire if it's completely locked for that distance and you don't have the weight transfer from full braking. |
Socoken
| Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 02:10 pm: |
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the problem in WI with the gross overpopulation of deer is getting out of hand. these things are everywhere, riding at dusk is taking your life into your own hands, its not if you have to avoid one, its how many and how close will it be. even riding mid afternoon requires a skillful and cautious eye in rural areas. insurance rates are going up and people are dying, when are those idiots at the WI DNR gonna wake up and change things? the deer population has ballooned in recent years, but has the DNR changed anything to cope with this? no. have they extended the hunting season, or lowered the price of registration/licenses? no. deer are taking the fun out of riding here, and costing EVERYONE more insurance money. these overgrown rats need to be controlled. |
Bomber
| Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 02:25 pm: |
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same same in Illinois . . . . they're staring in droves during hard winters, and getting WAY to comfie around people . . . . . scarey stuff! |
Socoken
| Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 02:41 pm: |
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we need to treat them like the pests they are, and have 6 month seasons, with limits of 5 a day, and only a small game license needed unless its on your own property, and to hell with that "quality deer management" BS. either that, or salt licks laden with birth control. in a few years, the population plummets, and they remove the licks. SOMETHING needs to be done. worst part being, my theory is that the DNR WONT do anything about it because gun deer season in WI is a cash cow, and they wont jeopardize that. wish there was a way to get the insurance companies to lobby against the state, or get state residents to work together to change things. |
Bomber
| Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 02:45 pm: |
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I live in a hardly developed area surrounded by forest preserves, and they are everywhere . . . Lyme's was a big issue a couple of years ago, but seems to have faded . . . .. deer are cute, so the chances of a sweep control program are slim, I think |
Outrider
| Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 03:49 pm: |
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Good comments about the deer population in Wisconsin. If were up to me I would suggest raising the permit fee and issue two week permits year round. Granted some recreational areas would have to be off limits during the summer and a lot of the others would have to go shotgun, muzzle loader or bow due to the summer migration of vacationers, but all-in-all it would have a good effect on the economy as long as some drunk doesn't start shooting blindly or maliciously. Other than that, there are only two things you missed. Chronic Wasting Disease is helping thin the herd and that in suburban (non-hunting) environments like Brookfield our City employs professional hunters to thin the herd virtually year round. Seems besides eating and killing all the good trees and shrubs, the Soccer Mom's really got enraged when the deer began giving birth in their yards and they had to explain the both miracle and the afterbirth (not to mention cleaning it up) to their kids. LMAO Now if the friggin' State would live up to their promise to aerial spray the gypsy moth larvae perhaps I would have some trees left for the deer to eat. I am going broke spraying every seven days per the label's instructions and even more often compliments of all the monsoons we are getting this year. Whine, rag, moan... |
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