| Author | Message | ||
     Tpehak |
The difference is Russia does not have Nazi ideology, but Ukraine does have it. | ||
| Aesquire |
That's confusing and inaccurate. Think more that New York claimed Philadelphia as an island of Fellow Socialists ( nazi/commie ), and supplied arms to separatist terror groups. Then Conquered by force Eastern PA. Then invaded PA using the excuse that the PA state police were Nazis, because they have an Eagle in their heraldry, that a fool would mistake for one of the other hundreds of thousands of eagle symbol images. Like Rome. Or Nazi Germany that took it from Roman symbolism. It helps if you ever studied history. | ||
| Tpehak |
There are no terror groups in separated lands, but there are terror groups in Ukraine. That's why I said IF, because of New York is not similar to Russia. Russia is not capturing Ukraine, Russia protects the easter republics from Ukrainian terror. | ||
| Hootowl |
You need to take the hook out. It’s in there pretty deep. | ||
| Aesquire |
The Imperium isn't similar to Russia? Ha! Ha! Ha! | ||
| Aesquire |
Wtf are "separated lands"? I'm unaware of any Ukrainian terrorist groups in Russia. Some covert actors, probably, but it looks like domestic sabotage ( it would, if done right ) is responsible for a few fires. Not all fires in Russia are arson. A few Molotov cocktails thrown into Recruiting offices, sure, but when a solid fuel rocket factory burns, that could be corner cutting with production Demands as stockpiles are used up murdering civilians in foreign cities. Russian quality control is world famous. I've sat in a working Mig-17. And a retired F4G Phantom. And a RV-6, which had better workmanship than either. Phantom was darned good, though. If I could afford the Jet-A and the roughly $40k+ to get type rated, I'd fly the Mig-17, but it wouldn't win a quality award at Oshkosh. ( I'd happily fly the Phantom, too. That might get an award. ) I don't uncritically accept all the propaganda from the Liberated parts of Ukraine, either. The grenade left in a piano, ( described as a young girl's piano for maximum emotional impact ) and the trailers full of corpses could be bull. But the verifiable evidence is bad enough. I'm thoroughly unhappy with the John Deere Corporation for loading brickware on tractors, etc., to prevent farmers from doing their own repairs. OTOH, when the Company bricked a bunch of tractors stolen and shipped to Chechnya, ( they didn't pay for a service contract! ) I did cheer. Life is funny. Not so much for the neighbors of a threatening Putin and the civilians being shelled in Ukraine. I know Ukraine is a terribly corrupt land. After all, the rich a-holes there Bribed Joe Biden*. So have the Chinese & Russians. Bottom line is a free country was invaded by Putin's orders and thousands have died. | ||
| Hootowl |
Pat. You’re wrong about one thing: F4s do not fly. They’re an example of putting a big enough engine on something that it’ll take off regardless of lift.  | ||
| Crusty |
Me; I'd love to fly in an A-10 Warthog. That's a magnificent piece of engineering. | ||
| Aesquire |
Agree to both.  Actually the Phantom is a pretty good plane, aerodynamics speaking, in it's own way.  you see...the angled tail gets the pitch control out of the wing wash, for high AOA & rate of pitch maneuvers... The cranked wing is to add dihedral, unusual in a swept wing, & partly compensates for the roll instability the tail induces. The original prototype had straight wing & tail. Had a stall recovery problem in the wind tunnel. So a kludge on a kludge and you get the Iconic look. And it weighs a buncha tons, so it needs raw power to move it. The British version with the Rolls Royce engine ( and bulges to fit ) isn't any faster, but darn! It Moves. The Warthog, OTOH, is an awesome flying machine from what I've seen at airshows. | ||
| Tpehak |
Thousands nazis died because of they refused to stop bombing the eastern republics for 8 years and started resisting the liberation operation Russia started. If they will keep resisting there will be more deaths. Unfortunately there is no way around it now. The status of free country means nothing if that country influences the bordered countries the bad way. Ukrainian Nazism significantly influences Russia the bad way, a lot of Russians have family members in Ukraine, especially in the eastern territories. And now Russia pushes the Ukraine military forces from the eastern republics. The eastern republics are not Ukraine territory anymore for last 8 years, people of the republics decided to separate from Ukraine. So technically Russian military forces are not on the territory of Ukraine yet, it is not invasion yet. If Ukraine will not follow the Russia demand to dismiss the Ukrainian military forces and deport the Ukrainian Nazis ideologist and criminals to Russia then Russia after complete liberation the eastern republics from Ukraine military forces will cross the border starting the real invasion. There are not only Russian military forces fight in the eastern republics against the Ukrainian military forces, the military forces of the eastern republics fight against the Ukrainian Nazis too. So stop calling it just Russia fights against Ukraine, the eastern republics fought for their freedom against Ukraine for 8 years already. People of the eastern republics are not just separatists, they not just fight against the Ukrainian Nazis, they also defend the constitution because of 8 years ago Ukrainian government gained the power by anti constitutional way. (Message edited by TPEHAK on June 09, 2022) | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russ ian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-8 | ||
| Tpehak |
The Supreme court of eastern republics charged the captured British mercenaries by death penalty. (Message edited by TPEHAK on June 09, 2022) | ||
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| Aesquire |
https://9gag.com/gag/aogAvQg Extra point for every ripped off part. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russ ian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-12 | ||
| Aesquire |
https://pjmedia.com/spengler/2022/06/19/auto-draft -73-n1606391 There is a school of thought that the current war by Putin on Ukraine is Bush's fault. And Clinton's. Because they pushed for NATO to include the former Soviet Slave States. Obama started off his regime by pulling ballistic missile defense systems, or the commitment to install them, out of Poland, as part of his "deal" with Vladimir to stop the embarrassment of chemical weapons attack against his homies, ISIS/AQ/Muslim Brotherhood forces Obama backed in the Syrian Civil War. I put "deal" in quotes, since Putin didn't give Obama what he said he wanted, but invested heavily in building up the Russian facilities in Syria. And "what he said he wanted" has to be mentioned, since Obama's foreign policy was basically to advance the Islamic Jihad. That's not what Barry the Weasel SAID, it's what he DID. Incompetence or Dishonesty? Both & neither. It's incompetent IF the goal was as stated, peace, freedom, etc. But from the African Atlantic coast to the 'stans, the results speak for themselves. Just look at the count of refugees from the vast swath of F$%&ed lands. Or if you want another metric to measure results? Iranian subjects murdered and imprisoned. Or female tourists raped to death. Then, the not famous Enough hot Mic request that Vladimir wait until after Barry gets reelected to Invade Crimean Ukraine. In a sane world that's "Russian Collusion" , right? Leading to Just Joe's* speech warning Vladimir to not invade too much. So you might want to spread the blame for the thousands killed in Ukraine a bit wider on the list of Presidents. Ultimately it's Putin's decision. When Putin crushed Chechnya, it wasn't a big concern in the West. His war in Georgia was closer & more bothersome to the Eurocentric elite. ( but Obama's Wars in the Africa-Eurasian were more directly impacting ) Then the 2014 Ukraine Invasion was briefly concerning, but, hey, it's over, nothing to do now. Etc. You might look at the last century's history of Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Finland, and, France. | ||
| Aesquire |
And while you're researching conquered lands, consider the seldom discussed intersections of Evil Empires. The countries the Soviets conquered, then lost & reconquered in WW2. You'll find the source of the NAZI agitprop accusations in the fact that after being conquered by the Soviets, then the Nazis, then the Soviets, again, some preferred the lesser of the evils. How much do you have to suck to make people miss Hitler? And in the other end of the Eurasian continent, the Russian lands conquered by China. How much do you have to suck to make people miss Stalin? ( answer, be the most murderous monsters in history... The top 3 ever, no less ) | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russ ian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-19blue Russian artillery strikes against territory they hold appear to be a False Flag Operation to affect morale and encourage volunteers for the invasion while discouraging resistance. Much like Congress. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/06/the_w ar_in_ukraine_and_the_follies_of_the_victors.html | ||
| Tpehak |
Lithuania broke an agreement with Russia and blocked cargo to Kaliningrad. It looks like Lithuania is the next target for invasion. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/iea-europe-s hould-prepare-complete-russian-gas-shutdown I remind you that it's far easier to destroy than to build. And that cliche about swords cutting both ways. While not an expert on every culture's swords, I do know many have just one full length edge, so the cliche isn't a solid inviolate absolute. But it fits well with one of Newton's laws, the equal & opposite reaction one you might have learned if you went to school before math became racist and they rewrote the history of the Civil War to tell kids Lincoln was pro slavery. To put it in terms closer to modern life, "If you drive your car through a crowd of people you politically disagree with, they viciously will dent your fenders and shatter your grill with their skulls and privilege." Or in old fart terms, people hit back, so don't start fights If you don't want to get hurt. It's considered Pro-Putin to point out that his rationalization for going to war with the West includes some actual facts that make some uncomfortable. One he leans on hard is how Europe has for centuries made jokes about how backwards Russia is. ( so obviously murdering millions in radioactive fire is perfectly justified! ) ( that's sarcasm, btw ) There's a long term inferiority complex issue that Putin exploits. Does this mean I excuse Vladimir for his wars in Georgia and Ukraine? Nope. But they don't surprise me. Putin's beloved & deeply missed Soviet Socialist State never honored agreements to not invade and mass murder others before. Leftist Lie. By Any Means Necessary. That the E.U. & the Fellow Travelers of the Obama/Biden* regime have consistently failed to admit or realize that their energy and industrial policies are pro-dictatorship, ( depending upon if they are willing conspirators to authoritarian conquest, or useful idiots ) shouldn't be surprising by now. ( except for useful idiots ) Bottom line is, if you want to stop Putin from conquering Europe while Xi conquers the other hemisphere, then it's going to hurt some now, or lots later. This phase of Putin's conquest of Europe, ( the End Goal since his childhood ) or if you prefer the short term goals of re-conquering the former buffer/slave states, had it's timing set by the Biden* Occupation in D.C.... The Bad Orange Man had been setting up the Energy Independent America ( done ) that could have gone isolationist when the Putin Wars ramped up ( a historically dumb, but often repeated, possibility now discarded ) And/Or offered American fuel to Europe so they could negotiate with Putin with less influence from the fear of millions of dead Europeans this winter. Just Joe* & the Obama/Soros Partnership have cancelled that possibility. Leaving the E.U. with the choices of war, war and surrender, or surrender with some face saving bluster. ( until an Insulted Vladimir orders them murdered with their families in staged suicides ) For a different biased take on things ( one I disagree with in several details )... https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-06-22/russia-d one-west-divorce-nearly-complete-analysis | ||
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| Hootowl |
Sometimes I’m glad apple doesn’t support embedded youtube videos. | ||
| Tpehak |
When Apple will start supporting embedded videos they will call it a revolutionary feature. | ||
| Hootowl |
I doubt it. They used to, and stopped, because flash is full of flaws. The industry laughed. Then the industry followed suit. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://9gag.com/gag/apgwXGb | ||
| Hootowl |
https://www.foxnews.com/media/mickey-rourke-breaks -down-reflecting-meeting-putin If you haven’t seen ‘The Wrestler’ you are missing out. Highly recommended. | ||
| Tpehak |
Mickey Rourke fought Nazi too | ||
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