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     Hootowl |
Alcoa plants only exist in a few cities. Most places offer free electricity at nigh because there is no demand. And sure, they’ll have to run harder and use more coal or gas. I believe I said that already. But we won’t have to build hundreds of new plants, let alone hundreds of miles of transmission lines. We just won’t have to throttle the plants down at night. | ||
| Aesquire |
Bet you a burrito you're off by a lot... On your guesstimate of excess power production. https://www.rfidtires.com/how-many-cars-are-in-the -us.html#:~:text=Here%20is%20the%20current%20stati stic%20on%20how%20many,average%20age%20of%20these% 20cars%20is%2011.6%20years. Yearly consumption...sorta ...equivalent to burning all of the coal in a fully-loaded coal train that stretches 78,500 miles, long enough to wrap 3 times around the earth at the equator. That's the first Bing response to "how many cars on the road U.S." And it's obviously biased towards the Myth. Then... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_power_in_the_ United_States figure 750 million tons a year, almost a third U.S. total electricity, and https://www.quora.com/How-much-coal-in-tons-can-a- railroad-car-hold Now calculate the number of train cars per mile, divide by furlongs per fortnight, carry the six, and if you're a Marxist, just lie. I'm way too lazy to do math based on Wikipedia and Global Warming alarmist sites. But we can do a rough wag, half, say 150 million cars,.... 110-130 train cars per mile. 11000 tons per mile. 40,000 miles = 440 million tons of coal. ( equiv. Burned by half the U.S. Automobiles ) So at least another 15% total electricity production? That's less than I expected. Only a few gazillion dollars.  What's the excess capacity? I might owe you a burrito. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Ignoring the metals in the batteries & motors Um.....how, exactly, can you do that? Those are a MAJOR part of the overall equation, especially when you consider all the rest of the crap that goes into batteries... | ||
| Hootowl |
Lithium is the third most abundant element on earth. Cobalt is being phased out. If permanent magnets become an issue, they’ll use induction motors. I believe, as it always has, that the market will find a solution. | ||
| Gregtonn |
Lithium is the third most abundant element on earth. Not even close, by several orders of magnitude. It is closer to 33rd. Perhaps you are confusing the Elemental Atomic Number (Lithium's is 3) with abundance. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abundance_of_element s_in_Earth%27s_crust G | ||
| Aesquire |
Lithium also is highly reactive. The same property that makes it work nice in a battery makes it harder to separate from whatever it's bonded to. Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the Universe. But on this planet it's bonded to something, usually Oxygen, and takes a Lot of energy to separate. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115857/?ref_=nm_flmg _act_64 Here's a fairly decent movie where the scientists that discover A Secret to cheap abundant energy, ( easy separation of Hydrogen from water ) are hunted by the Establishment for, you know, ruining their Monopoly on power. So basically all you need is magic, Keanu, or Aliens/Divine intervention to have cheap power that doesn't kill Chinese and African peasants. Then they kill you for it. The "science" in the movie is clever, based on a real hypothesis of the time ( if it worked, it was suppressed by The Man ) and the paranoid action part is pretty good, and after decades of Global Warming hype & Cancel Culture, utterly believable. Of Course inventing Cheap Clean Energy will get you murdered! My phone, tablet, etc. Your Aunt's oxygen concentrator, Mom's Prius, and a Tesla does not, today, use a Magic Future Battery. They use batteries made from mines run by inhuman monsters who don't give an moments thought to poisoning Peasants. My Mom's old Prius used batteries made from mines run by enlightened Canadians! progress! ( the Nickel was processed by Chinese inhuman monsters who don't give a moments thought to poisoning Peasants ) And the Titanium in my mountain bike was probably from mines run by Russian Oligarchs who don't give a moments.... Now if you'll excuse me, I'll get back to cleaning my house built on land stolen from the natives.  I didn't steal it. I didn't personally poison any Peasants. And neither did you... I hope! | ||
| Hootowl |
Thanks, Greg. No idea where I got that. I owe you a burrito. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/ a33472741/hypersonic-weapon-killer-whales/ | ||
| Ducbsa |
So many Greenie objections boil down to suspicions of bad outcomes. I would have thought that enough whales have been tagged with radio transmitters that their migration paths were known and the Navy could go somewhere less threatening. The idea of spotters where that projectile will splash down seems low safety! Probably aerial observation that can get the hell away before trigger time. | ||
| Aesquire |
Helicopters monitoring by radar is the best way. ( also U. S. Navy SOP ) Fly over the target area, and if there's no fishing boats, or whales, clear to fire, while the choppa ( get to the choppa! ) flies at right angles to the vector to generate a miss from the shock waves. No new hardware needed, the Navy helicopters are already set up to scout for missile defense/strikes. In war, the only difference is they just use radar & sonar, from a distance, because they'd get shot down actually overflying the target cruiser. You know what else hurts whales? Depth charges. Torpedoes. Sinking ships. The Greenies really would prefer a U.S. Navy ship get sunk than a Soviet built sub. After all, they're the Creation of the Soviet Union. They also hate sonar & blame whale beachings on the U.S. Navy too. ( but never the Russians or Chinese, see also Saint "How Dare You!" Greta. ) In WW2, the Brits developed the Hedgehog mortar system. Sinking a sub with depth charges is luck, to a big degree, since you have to run at speed over the sub, so you don't sink yourself. Thus you lose contact with the sub as you pass him & he can escape by turning. ( until towed sonar, you couldn't hear through your prop wash ) And depth charges have to make big bangs because they are highly unlikely to actually hit the target. So the British Navy created the Hedgehog, that fired a usually circular cluster of bombs, much smaller, that only explode when they hit something solid. So you fired this ahead of you and if there was a bang, it was too small to hurt you & told you where the sub was. Of course, the missed ones, most, just kept sinking until they crushed or detonated on the bottom. I'm pretty sure that was exciting for sea critters. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedgehog_(weapon) | ||
| Aesquire |
https://amgreatness.com/2020/08/09/apocalypse-neve r-takes-direct-aim-at-consensus-climate-alarmism/ One of Shellenberger’s primary points is that while climate change is occurring, it is not the biggest global environmental threat and that policies to “fight climate change” are causing some of the most harm to the environment. So-called “renewable energy” is a prime example of this. Of COURSE Climate Change is happening. Kill every human on the planet and the Climate would still change. Or feed, shelter, and give free X-box membership to every human alive, and the Climate would still change. There's this whole orbit the Sun & wobble thing going on ever since the Earth's surface hardened from liquid after the massive impact that spawned the Moon. ( we have no evidence of the Climate before the Big Reset. Or much else. Getting slammed by a Mars sized planet & turning the Earth that's left after the Splash into molten lava erased any mighty civilization or unicellular organisms, too. ) | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.space.com/29047-how-moon-formed-earth- collision-theory.html I admit I favor this theory partly because the computer model videos are nifty. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/indonesias-m t-sinabung-ejects-massive-column-ash-sky | ||
| Hootowl |
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| Aesquire |
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/12/but- climate-change-cries-u-n-as-world-grapples-with-co ronavirus/ Never let a crisis go to waste. Now that they've conditioned the public to obey... | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/08/rel iance-on-wind-and-solar-will-lead-to-blackouts.php Vote Democrat! Vote Green Nude Eel! Vote blackout! Vote massive profits for our Donors! Vote massive bribes for the "public servants" ! Vote For Your Eternal Masters! | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/california-forced -rolling-blackouts-heatwave-sparks-energy-shortfal l OMG! There's never been fires and hot summers before! It's news that California utilities have problems! Where has this information been hidden all these years? ( Sarcasm mode engaged ) | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/08/c ovid_and_climate_policy_following_the_same_playboo k.html | ||
| Ratbuell |
California - is imposing black-outs for a 2nd time in a year - saw electric prices rise 6x more than rest of US, 2011 - 2019 - is shutting down last nuclear plant which creates cheap, clean, reliable power to 3M people - is the model Democrats want to impose on the rest of US Yup. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/08/i ts_time_to_roll_back_the_mask_mandates_not_ramp_th em_up_ridiculously.html I fully support businesses that request you wear a face cover to enter. And if you choose not to, I support them not serving you. (And not baking a cake for self promoting jerks that knew walking in you didn't agree with their perversion or Nazi promotion, or bad attitude. There's an important distinction between freedom of choice and racism or snowflake censorship if you refuse service because of skin color or a political hat! You don't like the racist murderer Che? Fine. But you don't stop others from wearing his ugly mug on a t-shirt. Feel free to inform Che wearing ignorant people that he's evil scum. But a Che shirt or MAGA hat isn't good reason to refuse to serve a customer. Their attitude may be. That's the Law, and it can be abused or twisted out of original intent. If it was easy, there'd be less problems in life. ) I'm less supportive, maybe even defiant, about some Government God King Wannabe ordering mask use under threat of arrest and fines. Nobody voted for the Governor's Whims, he/she enforces his/her whims by threat of deadly force under the excuse he/she has Emergency Powers that cancel all Constitutional rights and restrictions. During a Plague, you know! And there is ample legal history of courts approving emergency power in cases like today. So how YOU feel about some Glorious Leader's decrees is going to be a bit different if you agree with them politically. If you are dedicated to libertarian principles. If you think that their whims are wrong. If you Hate Trump. If you're a useful idiot. If you're a brainwashed puppet. ( you might notice some overlap on a Venn diagram of the above ) And if you know from experience that the Governor is an evil monster who cares nothing if the lesser mortals suffer and die. That might make you oppose even rational, good whims. | ||
| Gregtonn |
So...has anyone noticed that a large potion of the corn crop in Iowa has been wiped out? Many of my immediate family have severe damage to their crops, houses and buildings. Fortunately none of them have been physically injured. Masks weren't much help. G | ||
| Crusty |
I hope they had crop insurance. | ||
| Zacks |
Daughter and SIL were up this weekend (they're in Manchester) and mentioned that there was a lot of damage in NE Iowa on the way. Terrible since it's the first year in several that everything was seeming to go well for the farmers. | ||
| Gregtonn |
From one of my sisters. She lives in Tama county about 15 miles north of highway 30. Hi! We have a quit a bit of damage here. The metal roof on the house is gone on the south side and loose on the east and west. The chimney hole and the blown out attic window allowed water into the attic. Looks like we will need to replace most ceilings and several wall of plaster upstairs. We had a couch and some carpet on the main level get wet from the rain water being forced under the siding and dripping into the house. Lots of doors and roof damage to buildings. Fencing everywhere with trees on it or just plain blown over. The corn is flat and snapped off at about 80 percent it looks like. Doug and I left vacation Monday after the young man we had doing chores let us know about the mess we had. Lon and Blake left shortly after. Wes and a cousin came home early Tuesday morning. The rest of the family stayed to enjoy the time on the lake fishing and swimming. Glad they did! Wes lost his big cattle/machine shed and most of the trees on his yard. He has water damage to his house from rain being driven under siding, around windows, and at the foundation seams. The company he works for delivered a track hoe machine to use for cleanup. This is the second time they have been so kind. They did the same thing when we had the wind storm that did so much damage to the Hennings family farms and houses. What a blessing! Violets house appeared to be ok except for a fist size whole in the siding and a tree branch driven though the garage wall. We did not lose any grain bins or livestock by some miracle. We are also very fortunate to have gotten electricity back on in two days. Most towns around us are a huge mess and will be without electric for a week or possibly two. We grabbed two generators in Minnesota on the way home. Good thing we did. Wes said they stopped in Mason City for a few things and the man there asked why everyone was coming up there and buying out generators, chain saws and other storm damage supplies. Caleb and Cecilia spent a couple days here helping cleanup before going home. What a blessing to have the extra help! They are expecting a little boy in February! We have heard so many stories of how friends and people around us have survived the storm its just amazing! Locally we have not lost any life so far. I hope it stays that way through the cleaning. Thank you for checking on us. Hope everyone is doing great! We will get through this! Love to all! Typical Iowa farm attitude. G | ||
| Aesquire |
I grew up initially in Southern Nebraska, so twisters were the alpha predators, just ahead of blizzards and the threat of Soviet nukes missing Omaha. There was a brickyard in South Dakota that got picked up, and dropped, fairly neatly, on top of a hill just outside town. That it didn't turn the town to kindling... I've seen a couple, and one fairly close. The movie above romanticizes tornadoes, but did a decent job of showing the utter helplessness of mere mortals in the face of the Forces of Nature. | ||
| Gregtonn |
I've been through three tornadoes myself and seen and helped clean up the result of several more. What happened was not a tornado nor a series of tornadoes. G | ||
| Aesquire |
Gust front? aka down burst, aka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outflow_boundary Had one knock down a tree that took the corner off our house In Falls City. More than once seen one take out a Lot of tents at Pennsic. | ||
| Gregtonn |
Derecho. https://fox40jackson.com/science/derecho-damage-in -iowa-flattened-crops-spotted-in-impressive-satell ite-images/ G | ||
| Ducbsa |
Newsom is a Racist war criminal for knocking Green renewable mandates! https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/08/gavin _newsom_admits_it_green_energy_is_driving_californ ias_blackouts.html | ||
| Chauly |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2012_North_Amer ican_derecho I experienced this first-hand. Scarier than any storm you can imagine. The Twister guy mentioned the F5 as the "Finger of God". A derecho is more like the "Five-Fingered Death Punch": No buildup, no warning, just Mother Nature snapping the blanket on our lives' bed, then she's gone... |
