| Author | Message | ||
     Aesquire |
What is with the characterization of professors as "beautiful civil rights defenders"? Self serving propaganda. Ain't we awesome? Is defending civil liberties a leftist thing that leads to communism? Nope, the exact opposite. Defending civil liberties is a centrist or conservative goal. College campuses are a hotbed of leftist directed hate, anti-Semitism, and oppression of dissenting voices. RE: your last question, I advise making notes. Then support, with money, effort, ( volunteer ) & your votes, the opponent of the violator. ( If you can stomach his agenda, certainly don't support those who cry that your Governor wasn't harsh enough ) Me, I've been hoping I'll be gone before we need to fertilize the tree of liberty with the blood of the oppressor. And the good. You have to be very certain that you are responding to evil, and not the lies of other seekers of power. Vigilante justice isn't. Batman isn't real. | ||
| Aesquire |
Or in practical terms, be patient, learn, and keep your powder dry. Know your State and Federal representatives names, where they live, where they "work" ( most, are rich before they take office, most are lawyers, some get much richer once they take office. Know which is which. ) and most importantly, how they voted. I have a sneaky suspicion posting that data on social media will get it removed and you banned. 'nuff said. | ||
| H0gwash |
College campuses are a hotbed of leftist directed hate, anti-Semitism, and oppression of dissenting voices Except for when it is not. Painting with an overly broad brush in the context of lining people up and shooting them is not cool in my book, maybe it is in yours, but I would not characterize that as Democrat terrorist attack. | ||
| Blake |
Gerard: That quote that Sami posted is from Yuri Bezmenov, a KGB Soviet defector, a man who's profession was to help subvert free societies in preparation for Communist takeover. It's VERY worthwhile to listen to his lectures. They're on YouTube. Three of them are included in this single youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzeHpf3OYQY Introduction: 0:00 Slide-Show Presentation (audio only): 32:33 Subversion Lecture: 1:33:08 Audience Q&A: 2:36:09 i recall seeing the slide show with the slides. Will post if I can find it. (Message edited by blake on May 01, 2020) | ||
| Blake |
A slideshow, but not the one noted above. This is more an into into his own personal history. Very interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFLGvaIKK2M | ||
| Blake |
This may be it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOW6ysVKOg8 He mentions the targeting of professors around 30:00. | ||
| Sami |
That's it, Blake. I like the tone of Yuri, he doesn't mince words and I can understand why not everyone likes what he says or the way he says things. He isn't everyone's cup of tea. Here is more on how professors have been targeted by Marxist takeover: The Cultural Marxist attack on Western society It's at the root of the Democratic Party's identity politics and political correctness https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/aug/22/c ultural-marxist-attack-western-society/ EDUCATION; The Mainstreaming of Marxism in U.S. Colleges https://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/25/us/education-th e-mainstreaming-of-marxism-in-us-colleges.html | ||
| H0gwash |
So... all American professors are Marxists? Or just the ones that you don't like? Sami, if you can't say what you mean in a twitter length post or two, maybe you don't know what you mean. | ||
| Crusty |
I am certain that not all professors are Marxists, I am certain that many of the professors that I don't like are not Marxists. I am also certain that not all CNN employees are not assh*les, though that has nothing to do with professors. I understood what Sami was saying. Why can't you? | ||
| Sami |
I haven't said that all American professors are Marxists. What I mean is what can be demonstrated by the available evidence, see below: Self-Identifying Marxist Professors Outnumber Conservatives as College Professors https://www.academia.org/self-identifying-marxist- professors-outnumber-conservatives-as-college-prof essors/ Why Marxism is on the rise again https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jul/04/the- return-of-marxism The Social and Political Views of American Professors https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download;jse ssionid=6A8061776337872A99DA537F4CB0369A?doi=10.1. 1.147.6141&rep=rep1&type=pdf The neo-Marxist takeover of our universities https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-neo-marxis t-takeover-of-our-universities U.S. Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos’ Prepared Remarks at the 2017 Conservative Political Action Conference https://www.ed.gov/news/speeches/us-secretary-educ ation-betsy-devos%E2%80%99-prepared-remarks-2017-c onservative-political-action-conference | ||
| H0gwash |
Sami, your links are a waste of time. Speak for yourself. | ||
| H0gwash |
Sami is intentionally vague with his speech and I am asking him to clarify. I think that is a small order for anything mentioning execution. | ||
| Sami |
There is nothing vague about saying that Marxism is on the rise and that professors have been the (unwitting) target of Marxist takeover. Marxists have used colleges and universities as the breeding ground for spreading their ideology. Which makes sense, because colleges and universities are the go-to place to indoctrinate generations of students into Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Feminism and the like. ''It takes from fifteen to twenty years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which requires to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of the enemy. In other words, Marxist-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least three generations of American students without being challenged or counter-balanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism.'' Yuri Bezmenov | ||
| Sami |
Gerard: ''I think that is a small order for anything mentioning execution.'' There is no lack of execution under Communism: Mass killings under communist regimes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_ communist_regimes | ||
| H0gwash |
My grandfather was an English professor who fled China and suffered great personal expense to avoid execution so I don't take such language especially against American professors lightly. | ||
| Sami |
Do you think that Communists are going to treat American professors any different from non-American professors? Communists don't care if professors are American, Chinese, Vietnamese, or whatever. They care about professors not challenging their ideology. If professors challenge their ideology, then history shows that the bullet awaits them. See the mass killings under communist regimes, many of whom were professors and other intellectual dissenters. | ||
| Aesquire |
I think the words of a KGB officer, laying out in blunt words how they exploit useful idiots to steal power, then discard the now annoying, jealous, fools as a useless danger to the Revolution speak for themselves. Once the Establishment has been subverted, and power is gained, having trained subverters and power thieves around is no longer smart. You're the Establishment now. In the U.S. the process is still ongoing, and rather less violence, overtly, has been used. We are a bunch of unruly, armed primitives, after all. The damage is mostly to Education, which is politically nearly pure indoctrination, witness the popularity of openly Socialist Bernie and his jr. Brown shirts. And the election of Barack Hussein Obama, former card carrying member of the Communist Party USA, and the miracle that is a Columbia and Harvard education with Holy Sealed Records. To this day, no one outside a tiny elite group knows what Obama's grades, classes, or source of tuition was. A secret, forbidden past. And the near total domination of what used to be a Press. An actual reporter might be curious who paid for a Presidential candidate, than actually President's college education at the most expensive status symbols in the country. What fraternities he was in. Grades, essays relevant to political thoughts. Nope. Zip. Never tried to even look. And the few actual reporters, Rosen, Attkisson, were hounded, hacked, wire tapped, and persecuted for trying to cover, in the case of Sharyl Attkisson, the crimes of Fast and Furious, the Attorney general's plot to arm drug cartel members in Mexico so the President's public lies would appear true. Conspiracy to facilitate murders. The KGB officer, just was matter of fact about the fate of the useful idiot intellectual who outlived their usefulness. No one here advocates putting the Pelosis and Scumers up against the wall when the Revolution succeeds. The winners just will, as they have everywhere they do. And I'm not advocating doing the same before the Revolution, to try and prevent it. Wouldn't work. We don't do that. | ||
| H0gwash |
As you can imagine I am well aware of the behavior of political revolution, Communist and otherwise. Would you say those who defend the Bill of Rights flirt with Marxism? | ||
| Sami |
Patrick: '' Socialist Bernie and his jr. Brown shirts.'' Speaking of Bernie and Brown shirts, here is him being drunk and shirtless singing along with Soviets: (Drunk and Shirtless) Bernie Sanders sings "This Land is Your Land" with Soviets 1988 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgCfJxpqhd0&featur e=emb_logo Yuri Bezmenov explains: ''For us they were just a bunch of political prostitutes to be taken advantage of for various propaganda operations. One of my functions was to keep foreign guests permanently intoxicated.'' | ||
| Aesquire |
Would you say those who defend the Bill of Rights flirt with Marxism? No. (Message edited by Aesquire on May 01, 2020) | ||
| Sami |
Gerard: ''Would you say those who defend the Bill of Rights flirt with Marxism?'' That is not what I said. The Bill of Rights will become irrelevant under Communism. The point is that leftist professors claiming to defend the Bill of Rights while at the same time undermining patriotism and morality and advocating for (social, cultural and political) revolution are going to be disillusioned when they find out that they were simply useful tools for Marxist-Leninists. Such professors are useful only during the stage of destabilisation, after that they have served their purpose and they are no longer needed. Professors who defend the Bill of Rights but who do not undermine patriotism and morality and who do not advocate for revolution are not going to be disillusioned, because these professors did not serve the purpose of destabilisation. They will still be regarded as the enemy of the Communist revolution, but they will not be regarded as useful idiots. Useful idiots (political prostitutes) refer only to those professors and intellectuals who serve the purpose of demoralisation and destabilisation up to the point when they are no longer needed. | ||
| H0gwash |
Well I should be rest reassured that when the Communists come that I will be shot for resisting them all along, rather than for having stopped being useful to them. | ||
| Sami |
Gerard, the reason why disillusioned leftist professors are the ones who get the bullet first is mainly because of their societal influence. Your average Joe is not on the Communist priority list, because Joe Schmo doesn't have the influence that these leftist professors have to change society. Your resistance is not on par to that of a professor who just got disillusioned. Joe Schmo won't be met with bullets, rather he will be kept in line via the secret police and accusations of ''hate speech'', see below: The Sordid Origin of Hate-Speech Laws https://www.hoover.org/research/sordid-origin-hate -speech-laws The ADL is a proponent of ''hate speech'' laws: ADL Presents German Chancellor Angela Merkel with Joseph Prize for Human Rights https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/adl-presents-german-chancellor-angela-merkel-with-joseph-prize-for-human-rights The ADL gives awards to people like Angela Merkel, who recently argued for limiting freedom of expression on grounds of ''hate speech'': Angela Merkel Says ‘Freedom Of Expression Has Its Limits,’ Must Be Regulated To Keep Society Free https://www.dailywire.com/news/angela-merkel-says-freedom-of-expression-has-its-limits-must-be-regulated-to-keep-society-free Interesting background on Angela Merkel: Merkel, the Red footsoldier: German chancellor under fire over Communist links as image of her in uniform is released https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2328536/A ngela-Merkel-Communist-links-new-image-uniform-rel eased.html (Message edited by Sami on May 01, 2020) | ||
| H0gwash |
But Joe Schmo gets the bullets later when bullets come down in price? It seems to me the defense of civil liberties is the way to prevent Communism from happening here, rather than being the method by which it will happen. | ||
| Sami |
Gerard, what do you think the ADL and the ACLU are doing? That's right, defending civil liberties. Or at least, that's what they think they are doing. But whether they know it or not, they are playing in the hands of Socialists, Communists and Marxists. How? By advocating for ''hate speech'' laws. Did you know that one of Yuri Bezmenov's videos, which had over 1 million views, got deleted from YouTube because of hate speech? Yuri Bezmenov Lecture on Subversion Removed From Youtube For Hate Speech https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/ebr1j c/yuri_bezmenov_lecture_on_subversion_removed_from / YouTube Deletes Viral Yuri Bezmenov Lecture On Communist Subversion Allegedly for ‘Hate Speech’ https://needtoknow.news/2019/12/youtube-deletes-viral-yuri-bezmenov-lecture-on-communist-subversion-allegedly-for-hate-speech/ YouTube Deletes Viral Yuri Bezmenov Lecture On Communist Subversion For 'Hate Speech' http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?542324-YouTube-Deletes-Viral-Yuri-Bezmenov-Lecture-On-Communist-Subversion-For-Hate-Speech YouTube Deletes Viral Yuri Bezmenov Lecture On Communist Subversion For 'Hate Speech' https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61038 The ADL sets much of YouTube policy on what gets removed from their platform as you can read here: ADL Applauds Google and YouTube in Expanding Initiative to Fight Online Hate https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/adl-applau ds-google-and-youtube-in-expanding-initiative-to-f ight-online-hate (Message edited by Sami on May 01, 2020) | ||
| H0gwash |
Sometimes I disagree very strongly with the ACLU, but since they are a corporation, they have the same freedoms as any other corporation. It was a sad day in 2012 when the ACLU successfully defended the KKK's right to distribute flyers in Missouri. But since hate speech is still protected by the 1st amendment, it was a slam dunk for the KKK. | ||
| Sami |
Gerard, ''hate speech'' is not even a thing, it doesn't have a legal definition. People often forget that and assume that ''hate speech'' is a legal term, which it isn't. For that reason, ''hate speech'' is neither protected nor not protected under the 1st amendment. In order to legally protect something, it has to first have a legal definition. No, Hate Speech Doesn't Violate the First Amendment https://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2017/11/21/no-h ate-speech-doesnt-violate-the-first.html If the ACLU, SPLC and the ADL are corporations, then they cannot set legal definitions for ''hate speech''. They are not a branch of government, be it executive, legislative, or judicial. Yet, they seem to operate as a branch of government, so much so that the ADL even worked closely with the FBI not too long ago. The FBI removed them from their resource pages recently, because these corporations are not government-run. The FBI and the ADL: Working Toward a World Without Hate https://www.fbi.gov/news/speeches/the-fbi-and-the- adl-working-toward-a-world-without-hate EXCLUSIVE: FBI Removed SPLC, ADL From Resources Pages Over ‘Number Of Concerns’ https://dailycaller.com/2017/02/03/exclusive-fbi-r emoved-splc-and-adl-from-civil-rights-resources-pa ges-because-of-a-number-of-concerns/ | ||
| H0gwash |
Welcome to the United States of America. | ||
| Sami |
Gerard, Google, YouTube and other platforms operate worldwide, not just in the U.S. I suppose this makes things more complicated. Which rules, policies and regulations apply in different countries? The U.S. is much more lenient when it comes to free speech, the Europe is much more strict. We can't even meme here, for crying out loud! Germany starts enforcing hate speech law https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42510868 why meme? Death of MEMES? EU approves controversial copyright law that could wipe out hilarious memes forever https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/6481234/memes-death- eu-copyright-law/ I just made this meme, hopefully Merkel won't fine me.  | ||
| Macbuell |
HOgwash, are you implying that it is bad that you have the freedom to say something even if someone else finds it offensive. Whenever I hear such a philosophy I am reminded of lyrics to a song many moons ago .... I am sorry if I offended you but maybe you needed to be offended. Hogwash, those are lyrics. I'm not implying you need to be offended. (Message edited by Macbuell on May 01, 2020) |
