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Hawgford
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2020 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lookin to replace plastic res. Bike says use DOT4 on covers.thinkin Dot 5.Whats the replacement metal res?
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34nineteen
Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2020 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On the early bikes (97) it says to use DOT 5, and the rear reservoir was plastic as I remember.
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S1owner
Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2020 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You dont need a reservoir. Use a piece of hose and a cap



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Hawgford
Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2020 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No offense ,maybe thats how you build your machines but I leave nothing to chance especially with brakes on a high output machine under my ass. Maybe you should get out of bikes and try lawn tractors..... jes sayin
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S1owner
Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2020 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Really!!!!
You have no idea. Many many setups do not run reservoirs its a closed system pushes fluid forward and releases the same amount back as long as you have enough space for expansion no issue specially with the rear as its a small single piston brake.
And FYI dont be an ass to those that have been around these bikes along time you dont even know me and if you cant Give respect dont say anything!!!!!
I know these bikes forward and backwards inside and out and most on this site will confirm and always willing to help and usually not an ass but also will not be treated by an ass either.
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Hawgford
Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2020 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LMAO.
I was turnin wrenches on American sleds when new they didn't use fluid.Sounds like you had a crappy day.Guess you've never seen a brake flex line so weak and old that they absorb the system pressure resulting in no brakes.Use what you like,if you post that up on a public forum and don't like someones comment, don't post ??...I did find a nice LSR approved,not affected by any formula brake fluid, aluminum res that takes hose out of the equation. Go have a beer and try to have a better bad web day tomorrow
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S1owner
Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2020 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LMAO
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Robtg
Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2020 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://picclick.co.uk/Genuine-HRC-Complete-Rear-M aster-Cylinder-Brake-Fluid-223104142428.html


Evidently Honda doesn't think it is a bad idea.

(Message edited by robtg on January 16, 2020)
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Upthemaiden
Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2020 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Maybe you should get out of bikes and try lawn tractors..... jes sayin"

Take it easy man, we're all friends here.
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34nineteen
Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2020 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

However, I also remember the volume of the rear master cylinder on my 97 M2 being ridiculously small. S1owners setup probably is pretty darn close to the stock reservoir - in regards to volume.

(Message edited by 34nineteen on January 16, 2020)
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34nineteen
Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2020 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was trying to find a pic to show how small the early reservoir was and came across this. Interesting...

https://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/webshop/artikel.asp ?mc=1&aid=5409&cid=199&s=&a=
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S1owner
Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2020 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would not have done it if it did not work as good or better than stock. Believe me I did my research along with going over it with people far more in the know than any of us. Also just a side note if anyone has a brake line expanding and absorbing fluid you need to replace it. The hoses that are capable of this are old out dated tech have not been properly maintained and gone through on a consistent basis. All my crucial systems get looked at and tested a minimum of 2 times a month!
Those that know me and my build know I do not cut corners and always do things above and beyond the status quo.

@ Hawgford- I did take offense to your comments. No I am not or was not having a bad day. When someone willingly puts thier hand out to help another and they criticize and slap it it is a directed disrespect. I am assuming you have a vast amount if experience and knowledge which can hrlp many including myself but do not disregard others knowledge because you know better? Just because we dont come to tge same conclusion does not mean its wrong it may just be that they followed different engineering thoughts and had different end goals. “ It is better to have an open mind and learn then to insult those around you to make yourself “appear” dominant as the dominant do not need to prove it they just are.”

Just my 2 cents
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Jayvee
Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2020 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I replaced the big reservoir on my M2 with the smaller older version, it's about the size of a shot glass. It has a Buell part number, but it looks exactly like a Brembo part that some Ducatis use. When I was looking into this, saw a lot of these simple tube 'n cap reservoir replacements. Looks kind of like the "in" thing, they're everywhere now. Supposedly pioneered by some race team, but I don't know if it's really on any GP or Superbike bikes. I did get some Tygon tube to connect my reservoir, that was recommended too, and I'd never heard of it. But having a tube on a Tuber, seems like a natural. Here's a metal bolt-on GSG Reservoir from Streetfighers http://www.streetfightersinc.com/BuellAccessories.htm but $160 is just too much for a reservoir.

(Message edited by jayvee on January 16, 2020)
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34nineteen
Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2020 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I rebuilt the one on my M2, I wound up getting a rebuild kit for a KTM 620.

S1owner's idea is pretty cool if I was building something custom. I'd never seen it before, but I guess it would be OK if you never got the brake too hot. Then again... how much power does that lil 1 piston make?
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Upthemaiden
Posted on Friday, January 17, 2020 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just out of curiosity I googled "MotoGP rear brake reservoir" in images just to see what was on bikes. The first 4 pictures were all just a couple inches of hose. That doesn't imply that race bikes are all moving towards that, but just that it's not that uncommon of an idea anymore. Some of them were a bit longer than Ken's, so if you're worried about heat or volume of the brake fluid, you can make the hose as long as you want to suit.
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