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Crusty
Posted on Thursday, December 26, 2019 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x60q3h8
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Patches
Posted on Thursday, December 26, 2019 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Here we go with the conspiracy crap again."
So is Daddy Bush full of CRAP?
President Bush Announces Agenda 21 - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2szvgDm35A

UN chief reaffirms importance of Agenda 2030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-JolpBMGsc


"Oh, you're sitting there spouting off scripture when you can't form a cogent argument."
Your problem might be with Gods Word.

"I can tell when you're losing control because your sentence structure, grammar and diction start to fall apart."
Attack the grammar make you look more Intelligent. Really- have a cookie.

"unoccupied land and build an off-grid shack."
Cardboard Box under an Overpass. Homelessness is no Joke

off-grid shack is a waist of time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5QqidiEEHw


PSA- Even Supertruckers sometimes runs out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6GsXhBb10k
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Crusty
Posted on Thursday, December 26, 2019 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x60uawp
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Patches
Posted on Thursday, December 26, 2019 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x60uawp

Is that what is called "ad hominem", Me being Illiterate I guess even Old Farts can learn something new.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2019 - 12:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hahahahahahahaha!

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Torquehd
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2019 - 01:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Attack the grammar make you look more Intelligent

It's not a matter of intelligence. You just spout off things that aren't relevant to the conversation. You sit on your high horse and copy and paste but don't contribute anything to the conversation.

That's called trolling.

Please copy and paste some random chapter or Leviticus that, in your mind, proves me wrong, and steers pagans further away from the gospel.

When Paul spoke to crowds, he had a few different tactics. When he spoke to Jews, who knew the Book, he used the Book as though it was something they should revere. When he spoke to Romans, he cited Roman law and custom. And when he spoke to random gentiles, he made thought-provoking common sense.

You're not a robot. Neither is anyone else. You can't just start citing code and expect to win human hearts and minds.
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Patches
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2019 - 08:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Paul taught the Word of God not roman law and custom, that is why they beat him and threw him in prison.

Acts 16:21- 24 King James Version (KJV)

18. And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.
19. And when her masters saw that the hope of their gains was gone, they caught Paul and Silas, and drew them into the marketplace unto the rulers,
20. And brought them to the magistrates, saying, These men, being Jews, do exceedingly trouble our city,
21. And teach customs, which are not lawful for us to receive, neither to observe, being Romans.
22. And the multitude rose up together against them: and the magistrates rent off their clothes, and commanded to beat them.
23. And when they had laid many stripes upon them, they cast them into prison, charging the jailor to keep them safely:
24. Who, having received such a charge, thrust them into the inner prison, and made their feet fast in the stocks.

Its a Free Gift.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDEBz25lGdY

Before it's too late
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5QwP6QW3C0
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2019 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Jesse, that was the point I was trying to make.

You did it much better than I would have.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2019 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Paul taught the Word of God not roman law and custom"

Be that as it may, the ensuing quotes you used do not serve to illustrate it. They're just a bunch of non sequiturs.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2019 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ad hominem would indicate there is no basis or merit in my statements. Whereas, when you get cornered your English skills seem to suffer. Er go, not ad hominem.

You corner yourself when you keep quoting scripture that is not relevant to the issue. Scripture is great and all, but we don't need to know how many goats Nahshon son of Amminadab offered as a sacrifice.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2019 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So is Daddy Bush full of CRAP?

Yep. Scary stuff, eh? New World Order...Agenda 21. Totalitarian global government inevitable etc.
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H0gwash
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2019 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You just spout off things that aren't relevant to the conversation.

Maybe these verses are the crux of the argument but the point is entirely lost because no apparent effort is given to link the verses together.

FWIW a review of his much earlier posts indicate his grammar is normally weird. These posts were much less controversial though, and needed no detailed explanation.

Buellistic had even stranger grammar, yet he flourished on the channel.


(Message edited by h0gwash on December 27, 2019)
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2019 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, we point to bad behavior in order to justify more bad behavior?

Well in that case Rocketman was a complete tool for years, so anything goes.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2019 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One problem with quoting scripture is evil men do so too. Not saying anyone here is.

But Gay Mayor Pete likes to "discuss religion" with the intent to show how enlightened he is, and how horrible his enemies are.

And someone can try to show how something is bad with quotes, like gay sex, with another using the same quotes to show how primitive and authoritarian their enemies are.
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H0gwash
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2019 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

More to point out where improvements might be made on his part. His vagueness could be to hide that he has no point, but it could also be he does not understand rhetoric.
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Patches
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2019 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I post a Website or Video to support my position it is deemed Conspiracy Theory.

If I post a verse from the bible to make my point you don't like that neither, biased against maybe. The KJV Bible is my final authority. God give you Free Will to believe what you want.

John 8:47 King James Version (KJV)
47. He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
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Patches
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2019 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ad hominem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5CMW2XBH6I

"Rocketman was a complete tool for years, so anything goes."

1. Why is Freedom of Speech important?
2. Public Forums.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2019 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wonder when "ye" went out of fashion.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2019 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mid-late 19th century, depending on country.

Or as soon as it became nostalgic, as in signs saying Ye Olde Tavern.
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Patches
Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2019 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The New King James Version (NKJV) is an English translation of the Bible first published in 1982 by Thomas Nelson. The New Testament was published in 1979, the Psalms in 1980, and the full Bible in 1982. It took seven years to complete.

"ye"- Still used in the King James Version

(Message edited by patches on December 28, 2019)
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Torquehd
Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2019 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I prefer KJV, but I don't believe it's the only Word of God (what blasphemy! you say).

How are folks in China supposed to read the KJV?

I have a side-by-side KJV/Chinese "heheben" which was translated from the English Revised Version (which was the KJV put into modern 19th century lingo). Although my Chinese isn't very good and I have to cross-reference the Chinese dictionary a lot, I like to see the differences between the two. I don't count them as disagreeing with eachother. I believe the Chinese adds depth to the English.

Genesis 1:1-2 translated from the "heheben" into English would go something like, "Originally, God created heaven and earth. The earth had no form, (and was) primordial chaos. God's spirit moved on the water's surface".

I actually like that better than the KJV : ) Just for the "Primordial Chaos" portion : )
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Torquehd
Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2019 - 01:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Or as soon as it became nostalgic, as in signs saying Ye Olde Tavern.

I think there were 2 different Ye's.

One meant, "all of you to whom I'm talking (or writing)
The other meant "the". If it only mean a plural "you", then nostalgic signs would say, "Thine Old Tavern".

Some say that the difference between "ye" and "thee" helps clarify to whom the bible is speaking. I believe there are cases where that proves not to be true.
In Chinese, you have 4 different words for "you".
ni is just for you singular
nimen is for all of you
women is for us
zanmen is for everyone who can hear me speaking/writing, to definitely include myself.

Dang it, we've drifted way off topic. These comments belong in the Theo/Philo thread.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2019 - 05:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The KJV version of the Bible is the language we speak frozen at a certain time. The written word is like that. Shakespeare, is another example. Beowulf another, different times.

Aside from content, you can learn the common tongue, as spoken by a particular demographic of the day, in each of the above. The KJV Bible is meant to be understandable to the rich, well educated, and the common peasants, illiterate or not. ( when read to, a!oud ) With, perhaps, a bit of "old fashioned flavor" while still being accessible. Shakespeare was criticized for using too much of the vulgar common tongue by jerk critics of the day. Yeah, the PC crud has been around a while.


I'll skip, here, the question of translation errors vs. The belief in the Divine hand editing out error. Not relevant to a political discussion. Of some importance in a theological debate.

One lesson to be learned is it you tried to communicate with the language of the KJV or Shakespeare, others would consider you pretentious and/or weird. ( ditto any non common patois ) That's normal. And condemned for racism and hate speech by the Left today. That's deliberate mind control.

A political movement that worships the creation of Man in the Holy State, is intolerant to reminders of truths of the past. There's a reason at the last Democrat National Convention, that they booed God.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2019 - 06:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"society is so radically unequal means that we should be intolerant and repressive in the name of tolerance and liberty."

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/12/h erbert_marcuse_and_the_democrats_impeachment.html
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Patches
Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2019 - 06:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

""English Revised Version (which was the KJV put into modern 19th century lingo).""
ERV is what Blasphemy is.

Westcott and Hort's Greek New Testament is the "source text" for many of today's modern Bible translations. These men were hereticks. [The personal letters of Hort and Westcott sound like the letters of men of the Jesuit order (that is, if you know the Roman Catholic Jesuits. If you are a Christian, I highly suggest that you read the The Deception Series. Not only will you know more about the Jesuits and their activities, you will become more acquainted with yourself, the problems with the visible church, Revelation 17, and these end times.)

https://www.jesus-is-lord.com/hort.htm
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Crusty
Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2019 - 06:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fer Chrissakes; take the religious argument over to the bible banger thread. I don't give a rats ass whether you're spouting quotes from the King James or the Orange Catholic Bibles.

The quote that applies here is from Elevations; pull pin, count three: Freedom of religion is the freedom to keep yours to yourself

Now be a nice little fanatic and go take your meds.
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Patches
Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2019 - 07:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jesuit,-
Member of the Society of Jesus, a Roman Catholic order of priests founded by St. Ignatius Loyola, St. Francis Xavier, and others in 1534, to do missionary work. The order was zealous in opposing the Reformation. Despite periodic persecution it has retained an important influence in Catholic thought and education.

Catholic symbol for Society of Jesus





The Letters stand for Isis, Horus, Set.
The Sunburst around the letters is Egyptian Sun Worship Religion, also could be Kaos Kabbalah, who knows its a Secret Society.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2019 - 07:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, when you post videos of a guy who is, according to his own social media and Wiki page, a "Professional Conspiracy Theorist", that counts as conspiracy theory.

Just saying. You lash about, and when absent a cogent argument, just post some scripture that may or may not apply.

Let us just agree that Satan is the Lord of This World. Our time here is fleeting. Make peace with your Maker, or suffer the pain of Death, which is eternal separation from God.

It's pretty simple. Some will be saved, more will not be saved.

I do my best to insure that I will be counted among the former.

Now, to bring us back on topic:

Trump good. Obama bad. Bush whatever. Clinton bad. Bush whatever. Reagan great. Carter worst until Obama.
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Patches
Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2019 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

U.S. President-elect Donald Trump pumped a total of $66 million of his own money into his campaign ELECTION 2016. To make Salary $400,000 annually.

https://fortune.com/2016/12/09/donald-trump-campai gn-spending/

Why?
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2019 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Because George Soros, Nazi, Money market destroyer, pumped hundreds of millions into multiple propaganda and activist companies, including Move On.org, a group founded to tell you to ignore Bill Clinton's sex crimes, and continues as a New Fascist force for evil in this world?

Or for secular power. Both.

Next loaded question inspired by Nazi propaganda?
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