| Author | Message | ||
     Patches |
You missed underemployed and unemployed no longer looking. After so long you can no longer apply for unemployed then your not counted. Unemployed numbers is based on Unemployment Compensation Applications. Do you really trust the Government not to fudge the numbers in an Election year. underemployed -7.7 US+ 9.2 DC = 8.45% https://www.americashealthrankings.org/explore/ann ual/measure/Underemployed/state/KY unemployed -3.6% https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/u-s-unemployme nt-rate-falls-50-year-low/ no longer looking -35% (Sorry could not find website, the last time I seen it was about 35% that is why I used that number) 8.45% 3.6 +35.0 47.05% total (Real Unemployment rate) --- The poverty rate is now around 40% https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2019/12/24/poverty -rate-increase-us-counties | ||
| Pwnzor |
That's victim mentality crap and you know it. Opportunity is literally everywhere. I am living proof that literally anybody can succeed. | ||
| Pwnzor |
And another thing... The government is infested with communists and liberals. The numbers are not from an election year. They cover the last several election years. Where is your faith now? Is it all just talk? Mine carried me from the pit of despair to right where i am now, and still climbing. | ||
| Aesquire |
Here is a better source. Not perfect, but better than above. https://www.bls.gov/data/ Patches is correct in that the "unemployment number" is in some ways, bogus. You do need to look at the no longer working number, too. And it was worse under Barry, than Donald. Hands down. https://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat35.htm You can get multi year tables, but I'm on a Kindle, and it's too hard to link to with it, for the actual tables. https://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cpsatab16.htm Then you have to reference the numbers against population. And the 20-70? Million illegals. I can say 2 things about the economy, personally. My Thrift savings plan was basically flat, despite paying in the max allowed, from the beginning of the recovery the last year of the Bush administration, through the 8 years of the Obama terms, and went up nearly 24% in 2+ years of Trump. Despite being out of work, for surgery and complications & not paying in much. That increase affects most 401k plans invested in the stock market. Percentage depends on your individual strategy. Second, 20 years with the same insurance, with inflationary increases, ( in NY, stuff like aromatherapy is mandatory. You have no choice but to pay for it ) Since Obamacare, 3 times lost insurance & had to pick a new plan. More costs, so insurance companies cut premium plans. Or was it 4 times? The economy isn't great for everyone. It never had been, it never will be. Patches, your sources seem to be biased. | ||
| Patches |
The day "W" was Elected to "Tyrannical Traitor of the USA" there was a loud Sucking Sound of good Paying Jobs being Ripped out of America. Est. over 1.2 million 2000 to 2001. https://www.industryweek.com/talent/article/219635 43/why-is-americas-manufacturing-job-loss-greater- than-other-industrialized-countries Factories closed by the Dozens. No Regime has brought those Jobs back. M.A.G.A. is B.S. Trump is full of lies. While everyone was Bitching about Impeachment they signed UAMCA Trade Deal. Make Americans as Poor as Mexicans. If you think they are going to Raise Mexican Workers Pay to the level of American Workers your Nuts. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/11/30 /president_trump_signs_trade_deal_with_mexico_cana da.html | ||
| Aesquire |
I haven't read the new trade bill, so can only go on what various pundits say. If you believe A or B or C, you'll have different opinions. Economists operate on different "schools" assumptions, it's not an actual science, like Chemistry, closed to religion. With hundreds of holy books that contradict each other. I consider the Marxist influenced versions as nigh Satanic, with darn good reason, but even the best respected authors, like Adam Smith, are wrong in some aspects, and none of them can accurately describe the reality of the complex & chaotic world. So I won't defend, or attack the current crew's policies. They inherited the mess they face, just as previous administrations did. And the President has very limited power of change, especially for good. For bad, they've got immensely more capacity, it's the nature of the system. There are a few broad things most agree on. 1. Price of production, labor, materials, energy, infrastructure and capital costs, is the major determining factor for where you make stuff. Each of those components is itself complex. I like to get paid good money for my labor, so the combination has to be efficient so I get the work & not a nice person in Spain, or China. My job for years was to improve performance and efficiency in machining type manufacturing. But that's a small, if important, part of the whole. Someone has to raise the money to buy me the tools, the materials, etc.etc.etc. And if the energy is expensive.... Complex is an understatement. 2. There are indeed bad actors that screw things up to get richer. Soros is as close to the Antichrist as you can find. But he's not the only person who is actively costing us wealth. As to who is the "real bad guys"? The Clintons, Obama, Bidens, and others got rich in politics. That's a sign. 3. Other countries also want to have good jobs for their people. And those people can be real good folk. Good business, and morality, balances competition with fair play and mutual benefit. We want our neighbors to do well, so we both can get richer selling each other stuff. Saying Trump's MAGA slogan is a lie is stupid. It's incomplete and one sided, sure. The above facts don't fit on a t-shirt. | ||
| Pwnzor |
One guy is trying to repair the damage done by the shit policies of every president since Woodrow Wilson. One guy, fighting everybody else who was in power before him. The results are going to be mixed, but generally positive. Some things are going to hurt some people, but benefit many others. Gradually, even Patches may see some benefit if he waits around with his hand out for long enough. Or, he can pick himself up and get out there - and do a job that maybe he's not comfortable with. Do it well, and watch it lead to the next opportunity. That's how that works. Ask me how, I'll gladly give you all the details. When one thing doesn't work, you do the next thing - and make your decisions based on what you've learned. | ||
| H0gwash |
The trickle down effect has been working just fine. Much of it has just been going to other countries where workers have no expectation of health care. IMHO Americans will need to downsize their expectations just a bit because capitalism is not nationalism. | ||
| Patches |
Pwnzor, Not a hand out when you have payed Insurance(SSI) on it 28 Years(Played by there Rules) nothing free about it. --- Aesquire, How many times Trump Filed Bankruptcy. https://www.thoughtco.com/donald-trump-business-ba nkruptcies-4152019 How many times Trump Caught Telling Lies? https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-tr ump/statements/byruling/false/ How many pedophiles Trump associated with? https://twitter.com/sarahkendzior/status/107045459 6185800704?lang=en The Stormy Daniels–Donald Trump scandal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormy_Daniels%E2%80 %93Donald_Trump_scandal How Many Times Has Donald Trump Been Married? Christian Family Values. https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-marri age-three-times-ivana-melania-marla-maples-divorce -2016-2 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/a-running-list-of-t he-women-whove-accused-donald-trump-of-sexual-misc onduct_n_57ffae1fe4b0162c043a7212 Donald Trump Perverted Relationship with Ivanka and they call Joe Biden the Pervert. https://www.cheatsheet.com/health-fitness/disturbi ng-things-never-knew-ivankas-relationship-donald-t rump.html/ Is Donald Trump your god. Not Mine. Democrat vs Republican vs Independent non working for the Citizens of The United States of America. --- HELLary Clinton 1 Corinthians 11:8 - For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. 1 Corinthians 14:34 - Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law. Ephesians 5:22 - Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 1 Timothy 2:12 - But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Not a hand out when you have payed Insurance(SSI) on it 28 Years(Played by there Rules) nothing free about it. You were dealt a hand. Play your cards. Your faith will sustain you, and God will provide all that you need. Is Donald Trump your god. Not Mine. You are the only one equating Donald Trump with God. He is a man doing a job. A much better job than those who have gone before him. He's a sinner, just like you and I both are. It's not our job to judge his character, only as humans to forgive him. We can judge the job he's doing all we want. Doing F***ING great by every possible measure. Nothing is going to be perfect, as I mentioned he is fighting with EVERYONE around him, there is nobody he can actually trust. I feel like you've got some suggestions about a better way for this to all work... so let's hear them instead of just spouting off scripture like you're just sitting back on a perch and watching it from a distance. You don't get to do that AND complain about being in the middle of it. Pick one place to be, and stand there. | ||
| Aesquire |
Donald Trump my god?  What in the name of the cliffs of insanity gave you that idiot notion? I've openly despised his persona, his act, and wouldn't buy his products unless dehydration forced me to buy overpriced tap water with his name on it. ( I assume he brands that item too, in his business ) I am well aware he's not a loyal Party Republican. Any more than Bloomberg is. Which is fine, neither am i. I also don't buy sports team merch. If the entire Party Elite of either party was wiped out by a Divine Meteorite, I'd be laughing at the Cosmic justice. The only downside is it it was just one of them. The sexual perversion attacks are most likely lies, and I'll advise you to seriously reconsider your reading habits since the folk accusing others of incest, if they are Democrats, are most likely perverts themselves. The "accuse others of your own crimes" tactic is a freaking Democrat Party copywrite. But, sure, Trump is a despicable cad even if not one accusation you so crudely cast parroting propaganda paid by proud Nazi money traders is true. Divorced, ( that can be just a terrible mistake, and not poor character, but in this case...sure ) cheating on his wife, ( do you complain about known sexual abuser Bill? Or just Donald? Beam, eye, you know the quote ), talking crudely about women in the locker room, and on and on. You have to go back to reformed alcoholic Bush the Younger to find a guy who isn't embarrassing as an adult, and George was a frat boy, 'nuff said. To be fair, I never heard a single accusation that Obama cheated on Michelle with a woman. It's possible I missed it, and equally possible any accusers are deeply buried. But he seems to be publicly virtuous in that narrow arrow slit. So? Of the rich lying scum still standing on the Democrat Party platform, Wang is the only one so far I haven't read wants to put me in a concentration camp. I might have missed that. But while I applaud marital fidelity, a wonderful family man or woman who wants to take away my freedoms still isn't getting my vote. | ||
| Aesquire |
I know I'm a little strident in my public opinion on Leftists. But I can book you a tour of mass graves they fill. Give you links to books written by the surviving victims. News stories of starvation, murder, torture, being committed, Today. In multiple hemispheres. Documented genocide. I'll even admit to a shameful amount of rumor mongering about one closeted gay politician, which I might be wrong about. Multiple rumoured dead who outed him isn't a noble excuse for that, and spreading such rumours is exploiting homophobia. Matthew 7:3 “And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?” I'll work on that. | ||
| Patches |
"I feel like you've got some suggestions about a better way for this to all work... so let's hear them instead of just spouting off scripture like you're just sitting back on a perch and watching it from a distance. You don't get to do that AND complain about being in the middle of it." Nearly every Political post on here is attacking Democratic for having a difference of opinion good or bad. Republican can do no wrong BS. Is Lucifer Worshiping Illuminati Freemasons the Answer. Is Euthanasia a Better Alternative? "Pick one place to be, and stand there." I Stand with My LORD and SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST. | ||
| Ebutch |
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| Pwnzor |
I Stand with My LORD and SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST. Throwing stones from your glass house, all the while. Nearly every Political post on here is attacking Democratic for having a difference of opinion good or bad. Categorically false statement. Maybe you're reading the Dark BadWeB.... lol We light 'em up on both sides of the aisle. It might seem lopsided from that perch off in the distance, but that's because the lefties are literally OFF the rails. This is the grandest political comedy we have ever witnessed. | ||
| Hootowl |
“attacking Democratic for having a difference of opinion good or bad.” I’ve yet to read a post critical of a good idea proffered by a Democrat. That’s likely because our friends across the isle have so few good ideas. Mostly they just rebrand their old ideas that have already been tried and proven to be disastrous. They’ve been clamoring for communism, under various guises, for over 100 years now, despite its obvious and bloody failures. Show me a good idea, and I will support it, irrespective of who came up with it. Contrast that with the left’s penchant to declare any idea from the right to be some combination of racist, homophobic, transphobic, misogynist, islamophobic, etc. | ||
| Patches |
Is "USMCA Trade Deal" going to benefit the Citizens of The United States of America or is it going to benefit Big Banks. DONALD TRUMP IS A PUPPET AND JUST AN ACTOR - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=740S7rDXFw8 | ||
| Hootowl |
"Convicted by the hypocrisy of their own ideology" | ||
| Pwnzor |
Yeah, great video. By your own criteria, David Icke is a tool of Satan.  Come on man, you're making this far too easy. Haven't you got any real information, not parroted by Satan's minions to befuddle the populace? You haven't been taken in by the grand ruse, have you? I mean, he did visit a psychic who told him he would receive messages from the spirit world, and he did declare himself "a son of the godhead". Of course he's credible! He played football (soccer) and then got to go on TV to talk about it! He lectures people! For f**k's sake, man... I'll pray for your soul. You shouldn't dump your purse out on the ground like that... | ||
| Pwnzor |
How does one become a "Professional Conspiracy Theorist"? I think I may have missed my calling. The devil is afoot, and he has you fooled, Patches. | ||
| Hootowl |
"How does one become a Professional Conspiracy Theorist" Technically, being paid for something makes you a professional. Not much of a qualification, really. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Got a buck? | ||
| Patches |
"Assault on Trump For Undoing the Progressive Agenda." Do you mean END all Social Services. Do you mean still from the Poor and Give to the Rich. Mark 14: 7 King James Version (KJV) 7. For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always. What do you do with the poor then. Internment Camp, Slavery, Euthanize them. Hitler's Nazi Playbook. Why stop with the Poor, Maybe your Deemed Nonviable Member of Society- You Do Not Get to Choose. | ||
| Patches |
Exodus 20:3- 5 King James Version (KJV) 3. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. 4. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. 5. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; Trump your god not mine. | ||
| Hootowl |
"Do you mean still from the Poor and Give to the Rich" You keep saying that, but you fail to say how. How does one get rich by stealing something someone doesn't have? Do you mean tax breaks for companies? Tax breaks are not stealing from anyone. You get tax breaks too. Tax breaks are not tax credits. And, as I said earlier, the poor in this country don't pay any federal tax. How does how much a company pays affect them? (Other than to pay enough to allow the government to not require the poor to pay any tax at all. Seems like a win.) Recall that "steal from the rich and give to the poor" was Robin Hood robbing tax collectors and returning the money to the tax payer. Since America is not make-believe pre-industrial Britain, and our federal tax collectors do not collect income tax from the poor, it seems odd that you would accuse Trump of stealing money from poor people. About the only thing you've brought up that I agree with is the issue of unsafe Mexican trucks being allowed on the road. That was a NAFTA problem. I do not know whether the new treaty addresses that, or whether it was even considered. Sure seems unfair that US trucks have to comply with the rules, and Mexican trucks do not. | ||
| Aeholton |
Patches....I think you are misinterpreting God's word. It is the role of the body of Christ (Christians/the church) to help the poor and downtrodden. Not the government. | ||
| Hootowl |
The problem with funneling charitable dollars through the government is the hugely expensive night on the town those dollars have before they make it to the needy. Same issue with The Clinton Foundation, come to think of it. They learned graft during their time in office. | ||
| Patches |
"It is the role of the body of Christ (Christians/the church) to help the poor and downtrodden. Not the government." What percentage actually believes the True Word of God in America anymore. SSI is not an Entitlement when they make you pay for it. | ||
| Patches |
"New World Order" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byxeOG_pZ1o NAFTA- Agenda 21 USMCA Trade Deal- Agenda 2030 | ||
| Pwnzor |
Here we go with the conspiracy crap again. I agree it is the role of Christians to help the poor and downtrodden. I'm doing my part. What about you? Oh, you're sitting there spouting off scripture when you can't form a cogent argument. I can tell when you're losing control because your sentence structure, grammar and diction start to fall apart. Nobody makes you pay for anything. You chose to be part of the economy. You can barter for everything and never pay a single tax. It would take a lot of work, more work than actually... say... working at a JOB. So, just go find yourself some unoccupied land and build an off-grid shack. Then find some others to trade pelts with. Watch out for bears, they like to keep their pelts. |
