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Torquehd
Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2019 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm tempted to pay the $15 or whatever it is to watch this guy's "Masterclass"
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Ebutch
Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2019 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Zac4mac
Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2019 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not today's NASA, but from 2010...

By Toby Harnden in Washington
8:00PM BST 06 Jul 2010


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Torquehd
Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2019 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would consider THAT, Today's NASA. Unless Trump has restored it. Which I've heard he was going to do, but have yet to see.

I don't know when NASA flipped, but I suspect it was when Barry What'shisname took office, and gave the Executive guidance that was talked about in my above article. Or maybe it was before that, in the 90's? When politicians started sticking their hands in the Scientific cookie jar. Or did that happen even earlier than the 90s? I was just a small fry then and can't recall.

NASA is probably like any Federal agency. You've probably got an underground coterie of folk who want to do their job for the sake of the progress of the American people, and then you've got the other 75ish percent who are careerists who don't give a damn about America, they just want to use their position to increase their own power and paycheck and are happily sponsored by whatever political agency can funnel the most money under the table.
Kickbacks. That's my opinion of modern politics(and federal workers in high places). It's all about kickbacks and under-the-table preferential treatment.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, July 29, 2019 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NASA’s a big place. The climate ‘scientists’ are laughed at by the real scientists.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, July 29, 2019 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A cousin worked at NASA. Trained astronauts & other physics stuff. I'll have to ask about the changes in corp. Culture there. 1 of 3 brothers, a family that your Mother unfavorably compared you to. "Why can't you be like...?" : ) Gee, Mom, I was building and flying gliders, when I should have been taking stockbroker courses, my bad. ( All expectations are relative )

A bit of useless trivia. NASA's predecessor, NACA, was created to advance the understanding of aeronautics. They still publish scores of papers on research that changes the world.

One of NACA's major projects was to try and make airfoil design more science than art. So they tested airfoil sections in a wind tunnel, and published the results. Lots of airfoils. They started with existing ones, like from a Fokker triplane & Piper Cub, then created a menu, of variations of camber, position of maximum camber, etc. In different thicknesses, in an effort to give the world a database so future designers could optimize the shapes for their mission. The designers of the P-51 Mustang started with a NACA airfoil, then changed it based on intuition and wind tunnel testing. Many airplanes fly today with airfoil right out of the NACA reports. ( other shapes are used, named after the designer or university/bureau, especially for sailplanes and other specific needs )

The irony is that the NACA airfoils were never intended to be used in the real world. They were supposed to be the raw data to allow others to fill in the blanks and create an engineering science that would allow you to predict the behaviour of new shapes. And that's been fairly successful with designers now having useful tools to do so. But the model you create to predict has to be checked in real world wind tunnel or aircraft.

Same as any models of complex systems, you have to refine and keep adding variables to accurately predict.

you can see that Climate models are in their infancy, being extremely complex.

The reason NACA airfoils are so often used is the hard work is done for you and you can choose from a big menu. Pick a drag curve you like & then choose based on other variables, like pitching moment or how well flaps work on them.( Definitely, chicken, then grilled, spicy, and sweet. )

There are parallels in other arts, like coding, where you can use canned software or write your own.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-29/major-so lar-storm-strike-earth-week-black-supermoon-looms

Hype or warning? We will see.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's kind of nice, in a sick way, to get dire warnings of a disaster event in a short enough time frame that someone might remember the warning was true or false. And the short time & timing of the congressional vacation means there won't be any spending to stop the Sun.

But we also have to try and remember other dire warnings. The Solar Storm will just mess with people and perhaps migratory birds. The Prince of Wales? Chuck, has said we have 18 months to stop Global Warming, or It's too late.

He can't mean we'll all be dead. He means after New Year's 2021 that no action by governments will be able to stop Climate Change.

And he's right. Nothing governments can do will stop the Climate from Changing as it always has and always will until the Earth is inside the dim Red Giant the Sun will someday become a buncha millions of years from now.

But he doesn't want you to think he means it that way. I don't know if he knows that his statement is true as I explain. He wants us to believe that we live in Desperate Climate Crisis and therefore we must give up freedom & wealth to Governments. He may even believe it. ( there's a reason the Queen is rumoured to not want him to gain the Throne. Being an idiot is certainly a good one. )

But no matter what the widower Prince believes, we now have a deadline of 2021 to remember. We just don't have a measure to verify if he's wrong or right.

Which is a sure sign it's a Con or a Religion. No way to verify. And, IMHO, it's both.

But first let us see if the power is still on in a week. The Sun exists. There are Storms. They have induced currents in telegraph wires and wrecked equipment & started fires. There are a LOT more wires now to get currents induced in them.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/07/29/jud d-apatow-we-are-murdering-our-children-by-ignoring -climate-change/
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hesitated to put this in a "science" thread, but I guess given that this thread deals so much with the denial of real science, it might belong here...

Weightlifter Hubbard becomes lightning rod for criticism of transgender policy
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gender differences are a social construct. Right feminists? Right?
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's just as much science as politics & culture, so this IS a good place to discuss it.

First, I do sympathize with female athletes who lose scholarship and a chance to go to college because a Trans beats them in high school, unfairly.

But, and this is a subject full of buts, ( bad pun intended ) no one can see another's thoughts. There is no way to know if a given person is genuinely unhappy with their own body, or exploiting the changes in rules.

Is it unfair for men to compete directly with women? Yes. There are biological differences that no amount of talking will change.

Is it unfair for small men or women to compete against large men or women? Yes. That's why some sports have weight classes.

But both "yes" answers above are not absolutes. I did track and field & swimming in high school, and my knowledge is obsolete. The use of hormones and other drugs & supplements was rare & primitive back in the bronze age. ; )

As an adult I watched & did bicycle riding and my knowledge of "enhanced" performance is based on that. Enhancement works, that's why it is banned in many events. And early 21st century Enhancement stuff is in multiple sub categories. For sake of keeping to this controversy, I will limit my discussion to hormone therapy.

Another caveat, my years of teaching martial arts put me in the camp of people trying to synthesize a holistic approach to performance. I'm a simple amateur, but I pay attention to the fellow travelers in Olympic & military research. Full credit to Bruce Lee, who synthesized his own "no style" from other schools, and helped inspire the whole aspect approach to athletics. So I often use "hardware & software" metaphors.

Testosterone. Enhances men & women. Helps build muscle mass, cranks up aggression. The mental aspects are often ignored in the press.

but it's important to understand that the typical human, if they used their full muscle strength all at once, can tear the muscles, rip loose the muscle attachment points, & break bones. That's why the normal human uses only part of his full power & part of his muscle tissue at once. We automatically use a muscle in sequence, giving more endurance, and as a safety precaution.

That's the main reason you hear rare stories about mothers lifting cars to free trapped children, etc. Their brains over ride the safety programming temporarily.

Training & attitude can affect this normally automatic system. Aggression is a big part of that.

Steroids. Build mass, speed repair, reduce inflammation, & build aggression. In a real sense, artificial hormones.

Many sports have artificial limits on testosterone levels in an attempt to eliminate Enhanced athletes of both sexes.

It is argued that if a male begins taking other hormones, like Estrogen, to acquire feminine characteristics like less, finer, body hair, and breasts, that their previous life before hormone therapy has given them more muscle and bone density, depending on the age therapy begins. Rather obviously, by High School, most men already have a big advantage in those categories, as we see in recent results.

The world has become a massive experimental laboratory with no control group of limitations, & there are serious moral problems with that.

It will be interesting, and tragic, when the now 7 year old boys and girls who are on puberty blocking drugs & hormone therapy to "transition" from birth sex to preferred gender, hit high school age and begin to compete.

Interesting, as we will learn more about human development. Tragic, because some of these kids are being influenced or pressured, long before the age of informed consent, ( another subject altogether! ) to drastically alter their bodies. In some few cases because of genuine biological differences, but many by not benign outside forces.

What the percentages are, I know not. Some of the sudden increase of trans kids & young adults is due to increased tolerance and less pressure to hide their feelings. Some due to misguided or even malign people pushing a political agenda. Very hard to get realistic numbers in the face of the different and changing peer pressure.

As usual, you end up with more questions than answers. Dang. Like Science.

The only thing CERTAIN is the one size fits all approach to sports rules is failing. And we knew that all along.
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Torquehd
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's not one size fits all. That would be open class. If you're the strongest, you win, regardless of weight or gender or test levels.
I support one size fits all when it comes to strength competitions. May the best man win (because a woman is not going to). Actually there is a competition like that. It's called Strong Man.
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Torquehd
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


Never heard of these guys before, I'll have to look them up.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/07/a n_alternate_explanation_for_europes_heat_wave.html

Midsummer winter warning in Colorado, 2 feet of snow in Steamboat Springs.

It's just weather. It doesn't mean a thing about Climate Change. It the fraud of changing the numbers of past measurements that means EVERYTHING about the human induced Climate Con.

About the Author's "theory". In Florida, it is well accepted that immigrants from the North bring cold weather. In fact, the first time I went there, and was camping out at the airport near Deland, it snowed in Miami for the first time in history. They even interviewed Seminole tribesmen who said they had no records of snow there...And it was the White Man that brought it with him. Cross my Heart, truth. Saw it on tv at the Ihop for breakfast, in Deland.

It was freaking cold. Frost on our sleeping bags. Thank NASA for Mylar Space Blankets.
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Ebutch
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)







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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/business/joseph- valle/2019/07/31/dnc-chair-freaks-out-debate-clima te-change-threatens-our

Climate Change threatens our universe!

It's a health crisis! an economic crisis! It's any crisis we need it to be!

But, is it psychic?
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Never heard of these guys before, I'll have to look them up.

Very enjoyable video. Only part way through I realized this was going into Intelligent Design theory. I've actually read Meyer's book Signature in the Cell. Found it a great read, but it also gets pretty deep on the science, so it's not an easy read. The other two, I'm not familiar with. I would recommend the book though... http://www.signatureinthecell.com/
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2019 - 05:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-31/genocida l-roots-green-new-deal-limits-growth-unchaining-pr ometheus

A complete conspiracy theory of biblical proportions.

I'd think it completely crazy, except Every organization listed exists, the books and writings of these people exist, ( at least the 80% or so I have personally read ) the actions listed happened, are happening, or are demanded by multiple organizations and people that flat out say it's all for the end of Liberal Western Civilization as we know it, the passing of power to a self selected elite.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2019 - 06:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-31/degenera tes-why-are-people-recording-themselves-spitting-f ood-other-disgusting

I miss the Tide Pod challenge.

We had the Knockout game with violent homicidal random assaults for fun. Is that still a thing?

The current fad for dangerous selfies. ( which bugs me because that's causing parks to fence off vistas )

I'm well aware that any tool can be used to build or destroy. The so called social media companies whose owners and management are pushing their own agendas are the tool.

None of their agendas or influences are for positive, freedom & self responsibility directions.

It's like a vast movement towards... Giving absolute power to a self proclaimed elite.

Hey! Wasn't that In a previous post?

Next you're going to tell me they are making apes smarter.

They are?

I need a drink.
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Ned
Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2019 - 06:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aspire! You need to get a life.
Seriously ? Fake news central right here.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2019 - 06:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In case no one noticed, Zerohedge seems to specialize in dire warnings of financial disaster. It's a pretty safe prediction to make, since we have them every few years, and nobody seems to remember that they predicted doom for 27 months in a row, that didn't happen.

There's British newspapers that use the same model. Doom sells.

The post from 5:39 astounded me by packing so many real elite groups that want to steal your wealth and freedoms so they can rule the world in one article. Much of it easily documented, truth.

Do I believe in the bildeburgers? Doesn't matter. Their meetings are reported every year. You aren't invited. Club of Rome? Ditto. Green New Deal? Oh, come on! No Congressman would push that insanity... And yes they voted on an actual bill to take away your property to save the planet.

What amazes me is we believe anything at all.

Gene mods to make apes smarter? Charlton Heston is dead, so...

And the following post? That insanity is real too.

We live in interesting times.

It's not that there is a vast super villain conspiracy to conquer the world. We've got lots of them, scores, maybe hundreds, and that doesn't count the various government rulers like Vladimir.

Have a great day!
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2019 - 09:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If NASA had any sense of humor at all, the ground crews for returning space shuttles would have been dressed as apes.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2019 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fake news central right here.

People aren't licking stuff & video recording themselves doing so?

The bildeburgers don't have annual meetings?

A congresswoman didn't submit a bill to take away your motor vehicles to save Gaia? Every Democrat candidate didn't endorse it, then none of them in Congress vote for or against it?

They don't have fires in California with The Santa Anna winds every year?

The Earth is flat?

"You're gonna be fine, baby doll!" this is the news. What's on tv is fake.

No Masons, though. Sorry.

British royalty is traditionally involved in all the great disasters.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bilderberg _participants
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2019 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a2 8555278/rust-electricity

Early days yet on this one.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2019 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/08/micha el_crichton_famous_novelist_physician_modernday_ge nius.html

Choose to believe a Divinity school dropout, or a Harvard medical school graduate?
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, August 05, 2019 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Took delivery today. Very nice car. Scary fast.


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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, August 05, 2019 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My Dad just bought a Prius Prime plug-in.

Surprisingly fast, and a decent ride despite mileage tires. Feels heavy, but not old Big Car floaty.

Downside? He traded a Prius V and they offered a lot in trade as they are in demand & out of production. Far less cargo & cubby hole space. The lack means more than half the "basic load" of maps, cleaning supplies and " why do you have 5 umbrellas? " just won't fit anywhere. And the hatch volume on the V easily took a wheel chair, but in the Prime, you need to fold the 60/40 rear seat, and, of course, the 60% side.

Also... Gadgets! Lane assist, active cruise, semi auto parking, huge touch screen. Rear backup camera, radar on all corners And ends.

And when you shut it down it grades your driving, on one leg complaining I had the A.C. set too low. ( truth! )

All in all, nice car. The bigger battery bites hard into cargo space, but typical grocery shopping used zero fuel, just safe clean Nuclear. I await the first fill up after the initial full tank. More side to side knee room than the V, and I don't need the seat full back, as I did in the V. Precious little fear seat leg room. ( I did mention it's deceptively fast. Quiet torque and suddenly you are 20+ over in a 35 zone.)

I wouldn't buy one, though. A Prius, maybe.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, August 05, 2019 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/08/envir onmental_alarmism_behind_el_paso_shootings.html

We have a Greenie, anti-population mass murderer in Houston, but he drove to El Paso for political reasons to murder folk he considered right of him.

And a Warren supporter who copycat killed in admiration of the El Paso Greenie, in Ohio.

There's an unfortunately short logic string between "too many hungry people are killing Mother Earth" to "I refuse to have children to Save Mother Earth" to " we must control population to Save Mother Earth " to "kill people to Save Mother Earth".

I admit that while the first statement is arguably true, to jump to Murdering For God Gaia requires more than a false initial assumption. You have to have already absorbed "Truth is Relative" and "morality is a construct of the Patriarchy ( or, whatever buzz word ) to keep you in line".

While that last one actually has historical merit, the relative Truth part is wrong. And you have to lack perspective ( ignorance ) & be an absolutist, ( stupid ) to believe that ALL the rules folk have created or had been given to live together in groups Are Wrong.

Given the trends in moral relativism and religious intolerance ( especially against the hated Christians and Jews ) and scholastic indoctrination, expect more Greenie Terrorism.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2019 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoot, don't park near this guy!

Caught on camera: Brand new Tesla owner catches stranger smashing windshield in Portland
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