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Zane
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Zach,

M thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. During this difficult time, may God hold you in the palm of his hand.
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Ebutch
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2019 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Crusty
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2019 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just discovered this, as I don't hit this thread very often.

Zac; you have my deepest condolences. Like many others, I don't know what to say; but remember, this is Badweb. It's comprised of the most caring, generous and helpful people I've ever had the pleasure to be associated with. We're here for you.
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86129squids
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2019 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

RD, you're welcome, brother. Zac, keep us posted. Another day of prayers for you, friend.
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Oldog
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2019 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wow ZAC I am with out words
My condolences..
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Macbuell
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2019 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Zac, I am so sorry. Anything I could say feels hollow. I am praying for you. Seek strength when you can find it.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2019 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Zac, so sorry to hear this.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Saturday, June 29, 2019 - 08:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Zac,
I have felt terrible since I heard.
I keep hoping there is something I can do to help.

Anything?

G
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Rick_a
Posted on Saturday, June 29, 2019 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The other day a person at the indoor range here decided to rent a gun to commit suicide with, and was successful.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Saturday, June 29, 2019 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey guys -
Thanks for all the good thoughts, I really appreciate it.
Im a pretty strong guy and with y'all's thoughts and the rest of my support group, I'll get thru this.

Gonna miss that woman for the rest of my life, truly one-in-a-million.

Please let this derailment of Rick's most enjoyable thread stop tho.
This is one of my favorite threads here and I'm starting to feel guilty.

As my company commander in boot camp would say "carry on lads".

Zack
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86129squids
Posted on Saturday, June 29, 2019 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad to see your post, Zac.

"Im a pretty strong guy and with y'all's thoughts and the rest of my support group, I'll get thru this."

This is true. Lots of downs to face, but the time passes, and the ups get back to you. Again, keep us apprised of how you're doing. I used to keep a longhand journal for years, got away from it. Might help you as things progress.

And... maybe you'd rather not say, but- why? Why'd she decide to go that way? It may be none of anyone's business, but, just asking.

My view is that ONLY in the case of a certain, terminal, painful, costly diagnosis of some horrible disease should someone and their family consider euthanasia. When Marcia's husband offed himself, they were separating and estranged... but he left her life in shambles. I've not spoken much about it with her.

"truly one-in-a-million." On the upside, Marcia's the same thing to me. My Dominican firecracker... her Bday's today, she's having fun with her bestie over in Cherokee right now.

Thoughts still with ya, friend.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Saturday, June 29, 2019 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Today's Lawana's birthday too.
Magnified bittersweet.

Why? No idea at this time.
That's the worst part.

Z
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Pwnzor
Posted on Saturday, June 29, 2019 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm just catching this.

Zac... she needs you more than ever now. Your strength in life will carry her in the afterlife.

Prayers up for you and yours from the Anthony Household.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Saturday, June 29, 2019 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Matthew.
There's a LOT of love hot on her tail..... she brought out the best in everyone she encountered in life.

The world is a darker place now.
She could make a snail dance...

Z
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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, June 30, 2019 - 05:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not a derailment at all, brother. We're all in this thing together.

In a couple days I'll have a PSL update. Waiting on one part (cheek rest).

In my youth we were not to have firearms in the house. My dad's first wife killed herself with his gun.

I haven't directly mentioned it...but my new safes and ammo cabinet are because I left my first several months ago.

IIRC, 2/3rds of all firearms deaths are suicides.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, June 30, 2019 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That sounds accurate, but I'd have to research to be sure. Regardless of numbers/ratios...it's still too many, and still a tragedy.

I do know that my firearms only come out of the safe in order to be strapped directly to my body. The only "almost" situation is my new holster mount on the side of the bed, and that only gets utilized when I'm home alone.

Speaking of - I got a new Alien IWB and WOW. The first "tuck" holster I got was nice - seriously. But as a first generation, made from nice quality leather, it got a little sticky in hot humid weather. Great with an undershirt, but not so much against skin.

I got a new 3.5 tuck series - neoprene against the skin, thin stainless sheet for shape in the middle, and a proprietary "grippy" layer facing the firearm to help with retention. No exposed hardware on the skin-side, it's all encased in the neoprene. No tools required to adjust height/cant.

Wow.

The first was comfortable.

This one...is invisible. HIGHLY recommend the Alien stuff to anyone looking.

I had (have, actually) the option of buying just the holster base, now that I have a kydex shell for my XDs with laser. This time around I got a second shell, just to have as a spare - my laser is instant-on, and the magnet detached from the kydex a couple weeks ago. No big deal, I didn't lose it, just had to epoxy it back in...but a second shell keeps me from having epoxy-drying downtime. But they offer just the holster bases (for folks like me who already have shells) for even less money - and all sorts of mounting options. Vehicle. Bedside. Under-table. Velcro. Molle vest. OWB. Shoulder. Ankle. Appendix. Once you have your shell...you've got tons of options.

No. I don't work for them. I just appreciate their product - and the quality thereof. And, their customer service is top notch. aliengearholsters.com
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Thumper74
Posted on Sunday, June 30, 2019 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On the derail, I did a research paper last semester on gun violence. He's right. An overwhelming majority of firearms related deaths are suicides. The next highest cause is mutual combativeness, like gang on gang shootings. Then justified police shootings.

The likelihood of dying by gun violence is something like 20th on the list of causes of death in the United States based on CDC reports, way down the list after things no one is outraged about, like heart disease, diabetes complications, various types of cancers, etc. Only 25%, or so, of firearms related deaths are homicides.

What I found interesting in the research was the UK and Australia being used as the shining beacons for gun controls. They both had extremely low gun deaths per capita, but the overreaching gun laws basically had zero effect on their homicide rates. I believe the the incidence of violent crimes increased in the short term for both countries.

This is all based off memory since I just installed an SSD on this laptop last night and it's basically new.
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, June 30, 2019 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's sad that so many firearm deaths are suicide. My dad took his own life with a gun in 1986. The gun is just a tool though. People can and will take their lives with or without guns.

Zack, I will never claim to know what you are going through. I do know you will question why she made this choice. I also know you will question what you could have done to prevent it from happening. Please know that you are not to blame. Too often family members find themselves trying to blame themselves for failing to see it coming, etc. I sincerely hope you do not go down that path. It's sad that she chose to keep the reasons to herself, but that's a choice that can't be changed. I hope you and your family can find the right people to talk to, that can help you deal with the pain you are going through. It will be a tough road. It's not a road that has to be traveled alone though.
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Thumper74
Posted on Sunday, June 30, 2019 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nancy's birthday was last week, so I got her Glock cerakoted. We bought it lightly used with grey Duracote, but it was so heavy, it had filled in the serrations on the slide and rounded them off, so it was hard to rack. Plus, it was chipping off the back of the slide for no apparent reason, other than bad prep. Earlier on, we had some issues with it running and the build up around the extractor was keeping it from running well.

At first, we picked up a Walter to carry normally. I love the proofing marks on the slide and barrel.





Then I just picked up her Glock on Wednesday.



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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, June 30, 2019 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


Does she like it?
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86129squids
Posted on Monday, July 01, 2019 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow.

There's so much love involved with guns.
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Thumper74
Posted on Monday, July 01, 2019 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

She seemed to love it!

I'm not sure of my feelings on it, but it's her gun and what she wanted.
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, July 01, 2019 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't tell Ann.
I just got her a Ruger Wrangler for her upcoming birthday.

There's so much love involved with guns.
We're loving people.
Let's go shooting.
You'll have a great time, even if you don't want a gun, everyone likes shooting.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, July 01, 2019 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

everyone likes shooting.


For me, it's like riding.

Hit that apex better. Carry more speed. Hold a better line. Brake later. Accelerate out sooner. Nail the rev-match on the downshifts.

Get the grouping tighter. Keep the grouping while firing more rapidly. See how many rounds you can put through one hole. Focus. Concentrate. Every round is an opportunity to improve.

I taught archery years ago, at a summer camp. By age...12? I was certified Camp Archery Association American Archer.

Right handed AND left handed.

I'd send 500 arrows downrange a DAY running that range. Back then I could plug an apple at 50 yards with my recurve (I didn't allow any qualifications with compound bows, no sights, no triggers - fingers-on-string recurves ONLY). I'd walk the range barefoot and find a dozen "lost" arrows a day, that the kids could never seem to find, simply by using my feet. The focus, the concentration, the...zen. It was amazing. It was me, the bowstring, the arrow, and the target. Period. That was the whole universe when I was on that line. Creeeeaak...fingertip to cheekbone...finger off the arrow....TWAANG....thwack. 10-ring. Repeat.

My shoulders simply can't handle that anymore...but I'm finding that my pistol work is just as fulfilling. Makes a little more noise...but the neighbors haven't complained yet!

Life is so scattered, so effed up...it's nice to simply focus on a task...and do it better every single time. Breathe. Draw. Sight. Squeeze. Repeat. What? I've been out here over an hour? My ten boxes that I brought out with me are empty? Damn...time flies.

Even the cleaning afterwards is zenlike. And ohhh....the smell. Nothing like replacing the wonderful smell of gunpowder, with the smell of Hoppe's! Maybe it's from childhood (also worked on the .22 LR range), but just that smell reminds me of a simpler time. A more peaceful time. A more...focused time in my life. One whiff and I'm instantly transported to the hills of Greenbrier County, WV. I breathe...I relax...I clean...and that feeling sticks around a little longer each time I do it. I find excuses to sit on the porch and watch a sunset, feel the breeze, and just...be.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, July 02, 2019 - 02:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You're starting to sound like Ted Nugent, Joe.
I can just hear "Fred Bear" in the background...

: )
Z
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, July 02, 2019 - 02:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can remember the first time disassembling and cleaning M16A2's in the squad bay and the strong smell of CLP. While it's not as pleasant smelling as Hoppe's it always takes me back. Those first nights sleeping with that rifle were special
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, July 02, 2019 - 03:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For Ratbuell.

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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, July 02, 2019 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep.

I love those days when I don't have to be the princess.

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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, July 02, 2019 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oats it is, then. ( breakfast this morning )
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2019 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

50 state reciprocity needs to happen.

Not just because our Constitution says so...but because, when you live and work in a liberal no-reciprocity state, and work in a lot of surrounding states that are also liberal, no-reciprocity states...it's a lot of goddamned cards in the wallet.

Just sayin'.
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