| Author | Message | ||
     Thumper74 |
Aesquire, I feel we are in the golden age of motorcycles, performance cars and guns. Good examples of any of these are the rule, rather than the exception. The trigger can be left as is or upgraded. There's a Ghost connector for the basic trigger upgrade under $20 and is a 5 minute job. There are also complete trigger systems that make it so much better than stock, but it will never be a Colt Trophy. I've shot this one, but it's more than 50% of the price of the gun new. https://www.glockstore.com/Ultimate-Flat-Face-Pyra mid-Trigger-for-Glock-43?quantity=1&shoe-color=1&s hoe-insert-color=4 I have nicer guns that I prefer to shoot and look at, the Glock isn't for that, though. MY need for a CCW is easy. Reasonably affordable and it goes bang when I pull the trigger. It eats any ammo I can find, from to steel case Tula ammo, to 115 grain target ammo, 124 grain NATO ammo and 90 grain hollow points to 147 grain Federal hollow points. Lots of holster choices help the decision. The G43 is on the big side for pocket carry, but it's not impossible. I carry appendix IWB with a reload and a ETS 12 round mag in the glovebox. | ||
| Gregtonn |
Aesquire, Eight single stack 9mm. Dated but it gives you plenty of specs to consider. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-UBvlSxpD0 G | ||
| Aesquire |
Thanks. Some years back, with a new dynastic Governor coming in, son of a previous multi-term Emperor, I saw the writing on the assault hoax wall. And, at the same time was about to have knee surgery, so was a bit fatalistic & mortality oriented as I gave away or sold my old pile of toys. And recently prepping for a long overdue trip to the range, confronted a be-nuded gun safe. I've had to fight the collector sickness all my life.... But it is fun. And I totally agree on the Golden Age comment. Since I can't buy the bullpup suppressed semi .300 Whisper.... I might as well get one of the new generation pistols. I'll kick myself for missing a chance at the next H&K P7. I'm set on shotguns, unless a box magazine one strikes my fancy.... And a Winchester of uncertain era I should research, properly, but fear would lose it's mystic aura.  The lever gun project parallels this, but is separate. Both are subject to "oh, look! I found a XxX in this middle of nowhere shop!" . Which, indeed, is my method of search. What's your opinion on the bewildering number of Ruger 9s? | ||
| Gregtonn |
My opinion? Find a standard Ruger 9s, not the 9s Pro. Re-holstering a CCW without a trigger safety can be risky. You can carry it without the safety engaged. Re-holster it with safety engaged until you are sure of seating it safely. Color and finish are up to you. G | ||
| Gregtonn |
I wasn't completely clear. Given your state laws I was referring to the LC9S. G | ||
| Ourdee |
One of my mistakes has been the Oh, I haven't shot that in a year thought. Then 6 months later I'm going, why did I get rid of that? That I found a XxX in this middle of nowhere shop! In my 20s I came across a SPAS12 for $125. Wish I could do that a few more times. Or that I could get that Marlin 2000 back. I could do that all day. Or to be back in the cheap ammo days when I would go to machine gun shoots and cut 55 drums in half at 200 yards. I think I'll plink with my pellet rifle more this summer. | ||
| Tootal |
I'll kick myself for missing a chance at the next H&K P7. A cop friend of mine came over a while back and we were talking guns. Now he's not a big gun nut, it's just his tool of his trade. I showed him my P7 M13 and his comment was, "Damn that thing is heavy!" I've never considered that it's heavy basically because it's the only 9 I own. He pulled out his weapon and emptied it then handed it to me. He was right, it was extremely light in comparison. He carried a S&W M&P 40. It was very impressive. I've never shot one but for a carry gun, being light, would be a big plus. A 9 version might even be lighter. | ||
| Aesquire |
Heavy? It's steel. The MP is plastic. More importantly, to me, it's an interesting and clever design. Consistent, single action trigger without "cocked and locked". Gas delayed blowback has few moving parts, a solid mounted barrel for accuracy, and is one of the few semi autos not based on the Colt 1900-1909 Browning swinging-tilting barrel slide design. Or older straight blowback designs..... Like Browning's 1896 ( slide ) The contemporary Mauser c96 was a short recoil locked breach design not popular since WW2 ( in China ) which I suspect is based on a Browning patent anyway. I love the 1911, but it's manual of arms is..... Manual. Like magazine cut offs so that troops would theoretically single load, reserving their magazines for emergencies, to keep them from using all their ammo quickly, it's old school in the extreme. Unlike obsolete magazine cut offs, the 1911 is obsolescent. It's also what is now considered an expert's weapon. ( never mind all hand guns are ) It's amazing that a gun over a century old is still the choice of competition and combat shooters, and that nearly every ( not revolver ) pistol on the market today is based on it's lockup design. Or his earlier ones. ( low power blowback ) But... The P7! The Walther CCP is the only current production pistol available in the US with that operating system, but lacks the squeeze cocking design that made the P7 unique. | ||
| Thumper74 |
I got to have some fun last weekend. There's a low volume manufacturer near me that does AR15s, AKs, Glock patterned pistols, AR10s, etc. I had ordered a few things that they Cerakoted and the the owners are pretty cool guys. They hosted an AR build part on a Saturday night.    | ||
| Tootal |
OH I wasn't knocking the P7. There's a reason I paid up front and waited for 500 names to be on the list before they shipped them. The accuracy of the polygonal bore and everything else you mentioned is why I love it and would never sell it. It's my home defense weapon. But in the subject of carry guns I can see where a lighter weapon would be easier to carry every day. That was one thing the officer mentioned. He rarely has to use it but has to carry it every day. | ||
| Ebutch |
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| Ratbuell |
Talk about stacking the deck... https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rep-steve-scalise -says-house-dems-refused-to-let-him-testify-at-gun -violence-hearing Scalise (as we know, a SHOOTING VICTIM) was blocked (by Dems, go figure) from testifying at a gun control hearing. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Anyone ever do an ASI course? My range is hosting one tomorrow...considering going... https://asi-usa.org/ | ||
| Rick_a |
My suppressed AR-22 got arm braced.  IMG_20190208_075142 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr  20190128_083918 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr | ||
| Zac4mac |
That's a RIMFIRE??? nice. _. .) | ||
| Zac4mac |
I have a couple of WMR .22, wish I had a .22hornet. pistol would be awesome. | ||
| Ratbuell |
well, the ASI course was...eye-opening. No lanes. 3 firing positions. 6 targets. Mandatory reloads. Varying (depending on which scenario you're in) obstacles - fire from behind a barrel; kneel behind a barrel; stand within a box; fire around the end of a wall; don't hit the innocent standing in front of the target). Timed, plus penalty points for outside-the-ring shots. The good news is...I improved steadily throughout the night. Better news, I did it all without my laser (trying to master the muscle memory and instinct, instead of relying on the laser which, let's face it, may fail to light when it counts). If your range offers something like this...it is well worth the experience. And hell...it's 2 hours of fun on the range! | ||
| Gregtonn |
Rat, Sounds like another one of those things that would qualify for the "Most fun you can have with your clothes on" list. G | ||
| Ratbuell |
Yeah, it was VERY educational. And an excellent reminder that active shooting is nothing like standing in a lane, shooting at a stationary target. The course at the end was six targets, from three firing positions - position A (full-left of the range), you engage targets 1 and 2, 3 rounds per. Then move to position B (the behind-a-wall position, center-range) and engage targets 3 and 4, with the added benefit of an innocent/hostage in the way. Then to position C, backpedaling to the right to kneel behind the barrel and engage targets 5 and 6. Targets 3-6 were 2 rounds each. Points added (you want a low point count) for anything outside zone A, up to 5 points for a miss. All silhouette targets, but some had blacked out areas, forcing a head shot; or forcing a diagonal center-mass shot; or simply reducing the "available mass" to aim at. With a mandatory reload, somewhere between first and last shots. Some folks with doublestack mags were doing administrative reloads just because it's in the rules; folks like me who were running their CCW weapons were forced to decide when to do their tactical reloads simply due to quantity. My XDs typically carries 7+1; I was engaging last night using the extended mags, but starting from a clear weapon I could only start with 8+0 (holstered empty; "shooter ready" was the cue to load a mag, rack the slide, and re-holster until the timer beeped, which was the cue to engage). So, I'd adminstratively reload after the first two targets/6 rounds - it would drop 1 in the mag, but I still had one in the pipe, giving me 9 to engage the last four targets with 2 rounds per. And...it's all timed. There is no "my first shot went here, so I need to correct like this" making every shot get better and better...definitely not static target engagement stuff, and like I said, I ran the whole night without using my laser because I wanted the practice. I learned a lot about the tactics...but more importantly, I learned a lot about what MY weak points are, so I know where I need work just in case I ever have to put any of this to use in the real world. And...it IS fun as hell. Extremely well-organized, very controlled environment, and good people on the range staff, on the ASI staff, and the shooters/competitors/students. My first round was 25 debit points on a 47 second run. My fourth round was 3 points on a 31 second run. Definitely moved in the correct direction! | ||
| Aesquire |
There are multiple versions of practical pistol competition. Some drop magazines on the ground, others require retention. There is 2 gun & 3 gun groups. The 2 gun guys complain that the 3 gun guys got over organized and that winning gets down to speed in shotgun reloads and the gear is evolved race gear, it you want to be competitive. Not practical anymore. The 3 gun guys say "wahhh! If you want to play, play to win" and have made The rules to make it a high skill competition. Ymmv. So will your opinions. No matter the format, great skill building & fun. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Yep, this was a mag-on-the-ground setup. Drop it and leave it, we'll kick it out of your way if needed. Lots of beginners (myself included), so they don't want to mess with TOO much "stuff" right off the bat. Not so much a competition - they do keep score, and send you the results the next day via email strictly as a performance metric - but mainly designed to be a real-world skill-builder. And fun. | ||
| Ducbsa |
Any room for abuse? https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/02/09/repo rt-gun-confiscations-surge-under-california-red-fl ag-law/ | ||
| Zac4mac |
Another article with a bit more substance. This is scary shit now. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gun-seizures-spik e-nationally-as-states-pass-laws-aimed-at-curbing- mass-shootings | ||
| Thumper74 |
RickA, that's sweet! I'm waiting on my Warlock .22 suppressor to get out of NFA jail and I'm eyeballing a Hybrid 46... | ||
| Ducbsa |
These red flag laws rely on the integrity of the government officials involved. Depending on their level of zealotry is chancy, just look at the FISA court letting the FBI spy on Trump. Also, do these laws protect the guns while confiscated? Some targets probably do need their guns taken, but if they fight it and win in court, do they get their guns back intact? Or were they presumed guilty and they are SOL? | ||
| Ratbuell |
Supposedly (key word) the confiscations last until a hearing process, and if the person in question is cleared they receive their firearms back. I'm willing to bet, though, they're like an evidence locker - stuck in a box, in a moldy room, and left. Not cleaned. Not protected from the elements. Plan on an overhaul (at least) upon return. I'm waiting to hear about the first case of an acquitted individual getting their weapons back, seeing they're in totally-trashed condition, and suing for replacements and/or reconditioning. Just...be careful on all those boating trips this summer, folks... | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
If your guns are "temporarily" taken in Masssachusetts, they are kept in something called a bonded warehouse. You will not be told of this at the time. After you are proven innocent, you can then claim your possessions.... after you pay the impound fees of course. The impound fees are of course steep enough to allow the "bonded warehouse" to claim them as his own and sell them off to recoup the payments. All perfectly legal. Just like civil forfeiture laws. My state is a toilet. Seriously, it baffles me to think that the Revolutionary war started in these garbage states. | ||
| Uncle |
Natexlh1000, I agree. I live in Messy 2 s@#ts too. I believe it is the birthplace of freedom for our country (Lexington/Concord etc). Unfortunately, it is now one of the most oppressive states in the country. The liberals have ruined this state. Recently, a liberal judge let a heroin dealer go because the judge said "he had to support his family"  | ||
| Ratbuell |
well if you think about it (and this is coming from a compatriot - I live in the Peoples Republik der Marylanden)...you're STILL living in a revolutionary state. Only this time, we're the Brits. | ||
| Aesquire |
Education. One on one. Make a convert this year. Motorcycle guys & gun guys, mechanical types & makes sense they overlap. Ditto gamers, computer geeks, etc. So pick a person, like a gamer, and take them to the range. Give them the basic safety rules, explain exactly how a gun works, bullet, powder, bang, & how the mechanism of the gun you hand them works. "Uses the energy of the bang to work the bolt" or "this lever ejects the brass & reloads the gun". Take the mystery out of it. Change fear to understanding. Use a nice, easy kicking .22, and close, easy to hit targets. Get them hooked! Then you can pull out the ARs or the "gun from the game".  |
