| Author | Message | ||
     Jaimec |
I was just reading this article: http://www.motoamerica.com/motoamerica-twins-class -explained-part-3-whats-approved I confess, I have no idea what kind of lean angles are possible from the Harley Street 750 or the new 750 Street Rod. Am I wrong in thinking those two bikes would require MAJOR chassis modifications to run with the other bikes in the class?? | ||
| Hootowl |
I doubt the chassis is up to the task, regardless of its lean angle capability. I wonder if anyone will bother tracking it with SV650s and KTMs? | ||
| Hootowl |
I guess they could modify the chassis by cutting it into pieces, and welding it into a different shape  but I don't know whether the rules allow it. | ||
| Rick_a |
There's been "mini-twins" racing in Europe for ages as well as similar twins classes in some of the club racing organizations. The Harleys would appear to be completely outclassed. | ||
| Teeps |
Just using the spec sheet. I predict the KTM 790 will run away with the class. | ||
| Greg_e |
Why would anyone even try to use an XG750 based cycle? Everything that is approved will outclass it in a big way. Great that it's there, but I can't even start to imagine that it will be competitive. | ||
| Jaimec |
Someone on the Quick Board hypothesized that maybe Indian might be compelled to build something for this class. Harley COULD be competitive if they build a street version of their flat track racer. Like the hypothesized Indian, though, it'd have to be homologated by MotoAmerica before it could compete. If only we knew someone who could build a good-handling, sporty motorcycle around a V-Twin engine... | ||
| Greg_e |
Can an XG750 make 75 horespower to compete with the SV650? The Indian flat tracker is way over the XG, if it was allowed in the class it would be pretty good against some of the other machines. I just think that it is too far of a stretch to make an XG compete with things like the SV650. Maybe not impossible, but how much money will it take, and how many changes to the point of is it still an XG? | ||
| Teeps |
The only way this format could work would be to add ballast to equalize power to weight ratio, based on GVW. If that fails to make things equal they could additional weight based on maximum banking angle or ground clearance. Adding weight is cheap and easy and if further EQ is needed placement of said ballast could be affected. | ||
| 46champ |
Not knowing what the rules are in regards to engine modifications. The XG in flat track trim are making the other side of 100hp. Now weather the chassis will work well enough to be competitive is another question. | ||
| Crusty |
You know; Cycle World did a head to head comparison with a Street Rod and a Yamaha FZ 07. The Yamaha won, but not by much. The XG is not the slug that many people seem to think it is. | ||
| Jaimec |
Found it: https://www.cycleworld.com/harley-davidson-street- rod-vs-yamaha-fz-07-comparison-motorcycle-review | ||
| Rick_a |
The "Street Rod" carries enough weight that the FZ would have to carry a passenger to make it fair. 122 pounds is a dramatic and insurmountable difference. | ||
| Jaimec |
That article was a comparison on the STREET. Even then, they say they were able to scrape parts in the turns on the Street Rod while never touching ANYTHING down on the Yamaha. On the track, that'll be a whole lot worse. The Street Rod would need a HELL of a lot more acceleration in the straights to make up what it is going to lose in the turns. Since the Yamaha is both more powerful AND 122 lbs lighter, the Harley would need a SUPERCHARGER. I doubt any sane team would attempt to compete with either of the eligible Harleys unless the Motor Company decides to pay them a LOT of money to get their asses handed to them at every meet. | ||
| Ffbuell1 |
Unfortunately for Harley, is that it seems every time they try to make some thing even remotely sporting they fail, they never have nearly enough power and usually have WAY too much weight, and I do not think any one would by pass the other brands available just to race a Harley, it would be to much money and to much work. | ||
| Slaughter |
I had always thought that an SV650 in an XB chassis would be "ABOUT RIGHT." | ||
| Rick_a |
It could be time for Lucifer's Hammer III  | ||
| Greg_e |
There is a big bore kit for the XG, maybe that motor in an XB frame? I want to say it is from Darkhorse, but I might be wrong. If someone gave me a Street or better the Street Rod, I'd certainly ride it, but not something I am likely to go buy new or even used unless the price is really good. A lot of "traditional" Harley guys hate on them, but they aren't that bad. A little bit bigger version of that motor in a full on touring frame would be pretty nice. Could probably get away with a 1000cc since the 750 is already more powerful than the stock 88 in my 05 Ultra Classic. | ||
| Jaimec |
I don't believe the current rules would allow an over-bored XG750. |
