| Author | Message | ||
     Ourdee |
Thanks Rick. "...eliminating self defense as a legal construct." You got that right! | ||
| Aesquire |
I'm watching the Movement To Make Them Peasants in NY with interest, since I live here. I also have a deep interest in History and point out that disarming the population is not new, not original, and will not ever end, as long as evil exists and people want to rule without consent. I usually point out that in Japan, the Sword was forbidden to peasants. Only the Aristocracy and their Guards & Troops could carry one. You get stopped by a cop in Kyoto a century ago with a Katana? You would be executed. Today? Serious jail time. ( things have improved only incrementally ) There's a reason all those Martial Arts weapons you see in the movies are farm implements. "Numb-chucks" (nunchaku)? Rice flails, used to beat the rice grains off the stalks. Those weird hooks on sticks? ( kama ) used to cut rice stalks. Sai? Dirt cheap easy to make by the village blacksmith, also not edged, so a loophole weapon. Scythes? They are scythes. What did you think they were? The reason is a guy with an obvious weapon was feared by the unarmed, and feared by the aristocracy, who didn't want competition in the rape and plunder department, and, yeah, were not well liked, because of that. It's all about the monopoly of force. Tyrants don't like competition. Competition kills them. It's a valid fear. So those who want to disarm you, are, by their nature, cowardly tyrants, who just haven't had their shot at raping your daughters, because, you, you horrible people, shoot back. It's really that simple. | ||
| Rick_a |
It is unfathomable that people can be led to believe that removing one implement will somehow magically change human nature, when people have been killing each other since the first time a human murdered another with a club, stick, or stone. The history of weaponry is fascinating, mostly in that our efficiency to kill one another has reached a point of saturation. While world governments hold ultimate power and authority, they're acting like a hundred million people with guns is a big deal. Wouldn't want to make world domination messy, now would we? The way Democrats and their minions pontificate, you'd think "Australian style gun control" would cure all ills. The problem is it managed to do nothing at great cost...but let the tyrants and sycophants play the role of virtuous do-gooders. | ||
| Ducbsa |
It's probably been mentioned here already, but confiscation would be applied unevenly. Many otherwise law abiding citizens would turn in their guns, many would not; but it is hard to imagine that many of the guns used to murder minorities in Chicago and elsewhere would be voluntarily turned in. By definition, the first group has guns for peaceful purposes and the second has them for killing rivals and protecting themselves from the rivals they want to kill. Which group has the higher body count? Which group votes for the gun grabber party? That would be great duty for policemen and ATF agents, going door to door in gangland. (Message edited by ducbsa on November 16, 2017) | ||
| Sifo |
I know how Chicago tries to explain their gun problems. How does London explain it? | ||
| Rick_a |
I've heard it explained that since liberals don't have to deal with gang violence in their neighborhoods, that it's not a problem worth discussing. White men killing other white people can happen most anywhere, therefore it of utmost concern. They're totally cereal about it. | ||
| Aesquire |
Really, the earlier observation that anti civil rights folk don't trust themselves not to slaughter people is spot on. Transference. They can't believe you can own several guns and enjoy target shooting and hunting and not give in to the impulse to kill your neighbors. The sheep, wolf, sheepdog analogy also frightens them. They don't want to believe that wolves exist and blame the police for provoking them. Ditto the myth of Islamaphobia. Never mind that you can read the manual and quote the orders to enslave them, it's you. It can't be the real threat. They never protested the Soviets. The hundreds of millions murdered must be OUR oppression's fault. It's a mass Stockholm syndrome. | ||
| Rick_a |
It is mind boggling that half the civilized world can be immune to apparent truths. When you're told that truth is based on belief, emotion, and ideology instead of facts, I suppose it's a natural result. The Vulcans would be find it most illogical. | ||
| Rick_a |
There's also the sincere belief that the criminal element (at least the non white ones) are oppressed and therefore victims of circumstance, while the police and law abiding folks that disagree are all oppressors and therefore the enemy. When the ideology is broken down from its convoluted self justifications with eloquent and impressive descriptors and terms...it just sounds stupid. | ||
| Ratbuell |
I think the best way to combat the criminal/oppression debate ("cops kill blacks so cops are racist") is to change word tracks. Cops don't kill whites. Cops don't kill blacks. Cops kill CRIMINALS. Don't be a criminal. Of course, that nullifies all the identity politics flying around these days....wait...that's just a bonus! | ||
| Pwnzor |
Cops don't kill whites. Cops don't kill blacks. Cops kill CRIMINALS. Don't be a criminal. Take it from an ex-convict, I couldn't have said it better myself. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.americanewshub.com/2017/11/17/heres-ra cist-billboard-offending-liberals-across-nation-ph otos/ Kneeling in subjugation isn't a protest. It's submission to a master. Kneeling to take better aim is something else altogether. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.americanewshub.com/2017/11/17/controve rsial-church-sign-sparks-nationwide-outrage-photos / This is a very biased source. Just want that up front. This story is spot on. | ||
| Aesquire |
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| Ourdee |
When I moved to Illinois, to remain employed, there was no legal CCW. In every argument I got roped into I'd go off the deep end for carry. I claimed that the solution to all of Illinois crime was simple. Mandatory carry of hand grenades needed to be put into law. If you were caught without a hand grenade, you go straight to jail. "How young?" Third graders on up! MANDATORY! BY LAW! You will have the most polite population in the world. I told them it would solve all the problems in 5 years but more like in less than 1. My next statement was about stopping all the stupid busing there. Demographics were well mixed so it's time to go to school where you live. Don't like it? MOVE! Live within a mile of school? WALK! | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/20 /gabby-giffords-gun-control-group-vegas-shooting-s hows-need-muzzleloader-regulation/ The New Assault Weapons. After all words with variable meaning mean anything. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://9gag.com/gag/aXv18Vd | ||
| Rick_a |
I've cut down a small tree with 12ga slugs. Was fun. | ||
| Aesquire |
Same with a .44 Automag. Very uncomfortable grip, like a 2x4. Not my gun, a buddy's, and did have a lot of fun with it. Used cut down .308 cartridges as a base. It was fairly reliable, I'd guesstimate the recoil at about 20% more than a .44 magnum out of a S&W Model 29. ( which my bud also had ) But a lot of that could be comfort. The 29 is pretty comfortable to shoot. The high end of my comfort zone. The tree, btw, was a legit target, we were cutting down crowding around an old oak. Used a LOT of .22 LR on one the same size, first. | ||
| Rick_a |
I was tempted to purchase an LAR Grizzly in 45 Win Mag that was in the used section of a gun shop years ago. It's like a 1911 on steroids.  I've also had a secret longing for a bright nickel Desert Eagle 50AE, or "chrome deagle" as they say.  | ||
| Rick_a |
I decided it would be necessary to spruce up wifey's soon to be rifle with a red dot and matching light option.    | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/03 /public-outcry-causes-honolulu-police-to-rethink-o rdering-the-surrender-of-firearms/ The authoritarian movement to disarm the public can be called fascist, after the National Socialist Workers Party in Germany and their success in murdering millions of citizens after forbidding them weapons or Communist after the Soviets success in murdering hundreds of millions of their citizens after forbidding them weapons. Or racist as we see the more than century long effort to keep former slaves from possessing the means to defend themselves. Properly its Racist Marxism in America that want to take your rights. Veterans, people with medical marijuana, residents of crime ridden urban areas, all are threatened or already openly robbed of their rights. The fact that most murders in America are committed in Democrat controlled urban areas with the most restrictive weapons laws is hauntingly obvious. We should perhaps count those deaths to the Party as history counts the Jews, Gypsies, Gays, and union dead to the Nazi party. Evil will always lie and sneak it's will under your radar. | ||
| Ourdee |
Rack up the score and make it public. | ||
| Rick_a |
Statistically 80% of non justifiable homicides can be attributed to gang related violence with pistols and concealed carry permit holders have been found to be 5x less likely to be convicted of capital crimes than uniformed police officers. According to assorted leftists, those that believe in their own rights are racists complicit in murder, organizations that protect those rights are terrorist organizations, and guns are innately evil devices that kill people without provocation. Life in backwardsland continues as usual. | ||
| Ourdee |
If you do not shoot a bow, I urge you to take up the discipline. It took a few years, but a 100 yard silhouette at 80 yards is now an easy target. I learned a lot along the way. #1. You are never as good as you can be. An indoor league in the winter is fun and I can't wait for Spring and the woods. Aim small and use smaller targets. I can only shoot the arrow I have on the string. So it is the only one that matters. If I think of anything but that arrow, I let it down and start the shot over. No matter the target size, my shot is at the X only. My best so far is 52 Xs out of 60. I shot against a guy that hit 60 Xs. I need to beat him. I did shoot the nock off his arrow. I learned a lot from him. I've watched him get out of work late and be on the range in a suit. It was like watching a machine. If you aim for the 10, you will hit the nine. If you aim for the X you will hit the 10. Aim for the center of the X. | ||
| Rick_a |
I have a bow I need to string up. It'll probably be a while, now, with a shoulder injury. | ||
| Rick_a |
Done?  20171207_095533 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr  20171207_095558 (1) by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr The original inspiration:  Not too far off. | ||
| Rick_a |
The house passed concealed carry reciprocity today. Democrats are, of course, acting indignant...presupposing that legal gun owners, the NRA, and Republicans are the root of all evil and this is some great injustice hoisted upon the American people. | ||
| Ducbsa |
I (tried to) read the actual bill and it seems like it makes it legal to have your Virginia CCW pistol on you in Chicago, as an example. I think the reality is that it would be maximum hassle to actually do it if the police were aware of it. I thought that I had read a pro-bill politician quote that the local laws would still apply, but that doesn't make sense. | ||
| Hootowl |
Local laws regarding where you can carry, whether you have to have a permit, etc. Some on the left are concerned that citizens of states that do not require a permit for concealed carry will wander into their crime ridden cesspools with a handgun and no permit. They prefer that only criminals have guns in their states, thank you very much. The law only applies when both states require permits (the law will make them respect each other's permits...duh) but that's not the story the intentionally ignorant or flat out dishonest politicians and newsies are peddling. |
