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Mhlunsford
Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On my way to work this morning, punched it an motor spun then clutch grabbed. Time for a new clutch. This a X1 motor with 35K miles 1250 Kit - not much beyond stock.

I was looking at NRHS they have kit with tool for $190.
Any other recommendations ?
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Harleyelf
Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You sure it's adjusted correctly? That's awful low miles for a failure.
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Mhlunsford
Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yes - pretty sure it is done.
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Upthemaiden
Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The clutch compression tool? I believe people usually just use a cut down piece of PVC pile, a flat steel bar/plate, and a bolt.





It looks like you can skip the steel bar if you just buy a PVC end cap and drill a hole in it for the bolt.



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Mhlunsford
Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the PVC end cap looks interesting
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Mhlunsford
Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

anyone know the thread needed ?
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Oopezoo
Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did it like the top pic. I had already used aluminum bar stock to make a primary lock tool. Then I drilled a hole in the middle of it so it could double as the cross piece for the clutch tool. 5mins more with a recip saw and piece of leftover PVC drain tube....I was in business. Worked great.

If photobucket weren't A-holes, I could post a pic.
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Upthemaiden
Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"If photobucket weren't A-holes, I could post a pic."

Seriously, they ruined half of the internet and I'll never trust them again.

Speaking of making tools... anyone have measurements for the bar you need to lock the primary? and then you round the edges so it fits nicely into the gear, right? I'll be in there this fall to replace the detent plate and the clutch spring plate so I'll be making all of these soon enough.
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Mhlunsford
Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

any advice on which clutch kit to use ?
I see some have the extra plate and some have a new spring plate ?
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Mhlunsford
Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the primary lock tool I made from thick shelving - I think around 3in in length.
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Oopezoo
Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From the notes I have, the primary lock should be 4 1/8" in length, 1" in width, 1/4 thick, edges rounded to a blunt point.

It doesn't need to be exact, but thats the jist of it

I can't advise on the clutch kit itself, but I'm sure any kit available from a major supplier would be fine. Mine wasn't slipping, I just wanted to get rid of the spring plate. I bummed some extra plates off of someone here.
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Upthemaiden
Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've heard the HD plates are supposed to be really good in these bikes, otherwise I think the Barnett kit gets good reviews from people on here. I also just picked up a couple extra plates from someone on the forum and will be swapping them in for me spring plate.
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Phelan
Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mark, you read the site wrong. $190 is the tool with the clutch kit. The tool itself is about $50.
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Upthemaiden
Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought he misread it at first too, but after I re-read his post he got it right...

"they have kit WITH tool for $190."

Tool itself was about $60, or get a combo of clutch/tool for $190. }
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Phelan
Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ah, thanks for clarification.
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Phelan
Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On a separate note, if the rivets are worn out and everywhere in that clutch, which they usually are at 25-30K, check your basket for burring from the rivets, as it and/or the hub may be toast as well.
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Mhlunsford
Posted on Saturday, October 14, 2017 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I put the new energy one extra plate kit in used valoline vtwin 20w50 SAE . The original plate with rivets was fine. Used the energy one tool . Whole thing was done in 3 hrs.

Pulls much harder now.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, February 09, 2018 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Pfeiffenbergermax" is a spambot.

Don't click on the phoney links.
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H0gwash
Posted on Friday, February 09, 2018 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

anyone know the thread needed ?

For those who haven't already recognized the nut from the top picture Upthemaiden posted, you can just use the well nut from the clutch adjustment assembly, part number 11730A, as the nut on your homemade tool. I found I had to compress the spring plate nearly all the way in order to put it back together again.
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Andy350
Posted on Friday, February 09, 2018 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used a brass door hinge to lock the primary, works very well
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for warning folks Nate!

Offending user account banned, and post removed to the BadWeB depository for bad posts.

Your diligence in looking out for the integrity of the forum is MUCH appreciated! Thank you.
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