| Author | Message | ||
     Torqer |
What to do... what to do? My XB12 has killer bottom end with the power valve. But, I want sound too. I've done a good bit of poking around and Dyno reviewing only to find a loss on the bottom end from everything. I'm new to this forum so forgive me if I'm touching on an old subject. But help! I want A nasty note coupled with my 5mph wheelie!! | ||
| M1combat |
Use the clutch?? | ||
| Spyder12s |
I have a 12s with a D&D with the sound I dont even mis the little bit of lowend that was lost, the mid gain and the sound makes up for all the losses | ||
| Fullpower |
torqer, you must have not reviewed the drummer. i have run the stock can, and the drummer back to back, and i can tell you for certain that you will NOT loose any torque. the "valve" is an Emissions Valve. it makes the bike vewy vewy quiet at 3400 rpm, to keep the noise nazis happy. top gear roll on next to a ninja 1000R, drummer equipped XB12 walked away. 60 to 100 i was a bike length ahead. immediately after i was watching his tailight rapidly fading into the distance. he can run 180 mph, but i get 55 mpg, so life involves compromises, still having fun | ||
| Torqer |
Fullpower; Thanks for your input. I have read about the process of making the drummer and I have an extra can at the ready. However I have not seen a dyno print out of the drummer's output next to stock...Do you have one? M1combat; Was that really a question...or just a comment? cause you know if you know and if you don't, I'll tell you.  | ||
| Jasonxb12s |
http://www.patmedia.net/haynesfam/ check out that site.•••• will let you know everything you need to about the process and Dynos are posted. I have a Drummer on my 12s as well. Ilakitallot. | ||
| Johncr250 |
What do you consider lowend? The XB12 only revs to 6800rpm! | ||
| Torqer |
Well, I suppose all things are relative... and if you can not do your own figuring, rest assured this forum is full of people who are full of it so, I'm sure a relatively appropriate answer to your query will arise. | ||
| M1combat |
I guess it was a bit of a smartassed rhetorical question... Didn't mean to offend. | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
Torqer with the torque of the 12, I doubt the bottom end loss on any of the pipes that have it will effect your wheelies at all. The Jardine has a very nice note. As does the Drummer. Since your in the sales department for Stone Mountain HD I am sure you can get what you want without any difficulties. | ||
| Johncr250 |
You`ll loose alittle lowend with the D&D, but it has a huge midrange hit. You`ll be pulling big rollon wheelies!!!! | ||
| Rumbletwin |
I tried to read the dyno numbers of the stock muffler vs the drummer but the picture was sooo bad that I couldn't be sure what I was looking at. The stock dyno runs from the archives look too good for the valve "not helping" power production. | ||
| Torqer |
jasonxb12s... the charts on that page do not indicate 12 or 9 but seem to be from a nine... do you agree? | ||
| Buckinfubba |
Torqer try this and scroll down til ya see where is says drummer on a 12http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/discus.cgi Sorry I have been away in the process of moving and kevins puter took a dump thanks | ||
| Glitch |
Those are from an XB9. This is from an XB12...  Not a good image, but you can see the curve well enough. SUP PETE! | ||
| Glitch |
Bad link Bubba. Welcome back! | ||
| Buckinfubba |
Thanks Glitch I am so computer stupid, but then the website should be done by the end of the week. Thanks again and good to be back | ||
| Torqer |
thanks ya'll... the drummer looks good on paper and everyone's input seems favorable. I do have one question... does the shortened pipe make it an ankle blaster at red lights? | ||
| Buckinfubba |
Not really but I guess it depends on where you put your ankels.  Then again if you just run all the lights you'd never know.  But really no one that Has it has complained . it goes off at a different angle so as not to be to bad | ||
| Glitch |
Can't vouch for the Drummer itself (yet) But I can vouch for Bubba. I've dealt with him before and he's a stand up guy. He does stand behind what he says (and that can be quite bit  ). If I had the money I'd buy one now, without hesitation. | ||
| Torqer |
maybe if I can get rid of the triple clamp,I can stomach the expense more easily. | ||
| Torqer |
thanks everyone  | ||
| Buckinfubba |
your welcome....thanks again glitch | ||
| Fullpower |
the exhaust angle of the drummer directs the hot exhaust further back then the stock can. no it wont blow at your ankle when stopped. | ||
| Leeaw |
I know on my 9, the Drummer wakes up the mid range quite nicely, but I don't have that exhaust valve thingamabob. It really opened up the torque to a wider range and works great, and hopefully better when I get the ecm and filter this weekend. And no 3rd degree burns on the left ankle either. | ||
| Torqer |
Leeaw; I've gotten good insight and opinion performance...Tell me about the sound! Hoe does it compare... I am an inch away.  | ||
| Glitch |
Louder than a Buell Race muffler. | ||
| Noface |
Quieter (is that a word?) than the D&D. Way quieter (there's that word again!) than a Nallin/Force pipe All Buells sound good! | ||
| Torqer |
loud is important... but not as important as performance. The drummer seems to be leading across the board for "no loss at the bottom". I see that it does not produce the max power over all. |
