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Mhlunsford
Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2017 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a m2 and had a s2. Think I want a CR but do not want a lot of maintenance. Also want upright position.
How are 1125s maintenance wise ?
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Dannybuell
Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2017 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

12K mile valve adjustments, no torque with race modules, dieseling Idle Air Control...
like all bikes, lousy in heat and traffic...

happier than a kid in a candy store if you are above 4500 RPMs and above 45 mph.

ceramic coated headers and an upgraded electrical system would be the next logical step forward.

I have 105Kmi on my 96 s1 and 23Kmi on my 09 CR.
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Joe7bros
Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2017 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You should verify it has the latest (last) firmware update - B3PUS10Z.
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2017 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reading all the problems ,maintenance and hard to get parts for that people have with the 1125 series.
I would keep the M2 and S2!
Or try a XB for a difference.
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2017 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It has less frequent service and less stuff to maintain than the air cooled Buells. Not to mention the better reliability.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, April 10, 2017 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is like asking a parent "which of your kids is your favorite?".

It's a different animal.

Tubers are rude, shake, make noise, and are a ton of fun.

The CR (I have an '09 with about 10k miles on it now) is smooth, powerful, torquey, and F-A-S-T.

ALL motorcycles have "issues" - anyone who tells you differently is lying. My CR? As I said, nearly 10k miles...had one stator replaced under warranty...have had the charge relay harness installed...and that's all. Bone stock bike, down to the ECM and muffler and noid and gauges. I removed the passenger peg mounts, put a tailbag in place of the passenger seat, put Uly (dropped) pegs on it, run a Pegasus seat, love my Clubman bars, run Syn3 and change at the recommended intervals, and ride it like I stole it any time I thumb the starter. Keep it over 4500 RPM like it's designed to be run, don't lug it...and you'll get as many smiles out of it as you do out of your M2. I'm 6'4" and I've done 900 mile days on it with no problem.

Just be careful - you'll be going EXPONENTIALLY faster on the CR than you do on the M2. But it does it just as naturally as the M2 does.

If you want "upright", find one with the riser handlebars (either a '10, or an '09 that's been retrofitted). But as I said...I love the clubmans so don't be afraid to give them a shot if that's all you can find at first. Buell offered a kit to change the bars (the bars themselves, plus all the hoses and cables for throttle, brake, and clutch) and there are still some out there I'm sure. Or you can piece one together, maybe with help from someone like Lance.
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Robertl
Posted on Monday, April 10, 2017 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am in the same dilemma, have a M2 and want a CR or R.

I prefer the street fighter style and position of the CR but just tired of getting beat up by the wind on my M2. Anything over 50-55 is torture.
Don't think my neck can deal with the clubmans on the CR.

Prefer the back roads but sometimes you just need a big highway/interstate to get somewhere in a reasonable amount of time. Riding below 75 or 80 is dangerous. Hell not even sure I feel safe in my SUV at times with all the crazy FL drivers.

I found a R with CR clamp/bars and touring screen so that seems to be the best compromise.

Thoughts?

Maintenance on the 1125s doesn't seem to be any different than most modern bikes (meaning anything with overhead cams) and the charging issue appears minor compared to some other bike/brand issues.
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Mhlunsford
Posted on Monday, April 10, 2017 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Robert,
interesting, a R with CR bars, that sounds like the best of both worlds. and lots or Rs around.

I moved to GA from CA. In CA I could split lanes when traffic stopped and felt pretty save. Here in GA, people drive fast and cut across the lanes.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, April 10, 2017 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't forget the difference in final drive gearing.

I rode an R when they first came out. I worked for HD/Buell at the time and was "sent" to a day at Pocono Raceway for product knowledge. In other words..."forced" to run one balls-to-the-wall on a racetrack for a day. That...is where the R shines. I was so stoked when production bikes started hitting our showroom. Then I rode one on the street...and did not like it at all. The gearing is...well, it's track gearing, plain and simple.

Then, when they announced the CR, I thought "Hm, a new S1...neat". Then I read about the gearing difference and thought "oh, we GOTTA get one of these!". And, we did. And, I rode it. And... I LOVED IT. The gearing is perfect for street riding. Nice and low for good acceleration, but still plenty of legs for highway cruising. The R (at least to me) is just too tall, like a musclecar with 2.35's in the rear - kills the whole experience.

Day to day? CR.

Track days? R.

Purely based on the mechanicals. You can change ergos easily enough on either one. Wheel, sprockets, belt, swingarm...that's a little more in-depth. Ride both before you buy, if you can. You'll see the difference. One will speak to you.
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Mhlunsford
Posted on Monday, April 10, 2017 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep, thanks for the info.
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Onetuford
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2017 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just did a CR high bar conversion on my R. Some call it sacrilege, but I like the ride sooo much better. I first had an XBR. It was a fun bike. I like the 1125R because 1125...
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2017 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its like getting off your riding lawnmower and climbing in your LS1 firebird.
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Mhlunsford
Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2017 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so kinda torn between a CR and cityX.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2017 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CR has more room for the rider. CityX felt cramped to me (again, 6'4" here with a 34" inseam). I'm partial to the 54" XBs - uly and STT and Ss.
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Desert_bird
Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2017 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Onetuford, you wanna post a photo of that conversion?
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Onetuford
Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2017 - 07:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will take some pictures when I get home. I found a member on buellxb.com who supplied me with an upper triple clamp, handlebars, and handlebar clamp. The conversion required me to re-route the throttle cables, clutch line, and front brake line. most of the electrical stuff made, with the exception of the front brake light wires and clutch switch wires, which I easily just cut and added wire too. For a cleaner, more professional looking conversion I suggest the kit available through St. Paul Harley, or New Castle Harley. I also need to get a new ignition switch, gas cap, and seat lock to finish the project, as my ignition switch is just zip-tied up in there. Using factory Buell parts this conversion will clear the fairing. As mentioned pics to follow.
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Onetuford
Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2017 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok. Here's the pics I Promised. You can see my temp'd up ignition switch. I took the whole fairing and stay off to accomplish this. I really want to get a new ignition switch, as well as the hoses to clean it up, but it works for now. Oh yeah, I'm gonna cut that extra bit of the handlebar clamps too. It looks like a bit of a hack job. It started as a mock up and the weather broke and I NEEDED to ride it you know what I mean?








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Desert_bird
Posted on Monday, April 17, 2017 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice solution. Thanks for pix!
DB
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Ceejay
Posted on Monday, April 17, 2017 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's another way to skin the cat...

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/773626.html?1460512624
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