I was being very tongue in cheek. My wording is very couched. The retired cop in Minnesota gave that goat shagger what he wanted. And I bet at his age he didn't even know how to properly shag a goat.
David wood has a number of very informative videos on islam. He may be one of the most well versed SME's on Islam - certainly more so than the average muslim you might meet driving a cab in Seattle.
The qran and other islamic texts are full of scientific errors, as well as racism, rape, murder, pedophilia, etc, etc.
Did you know that the wings of flies can cure all kinds of diseases? neither did I (or any scientist ever). Did you know that the sun sets in a muddy pool, that standing up to urinate is the number one cause of condemnation, and that sucking on a woman's breasts will cause you to not want to have sex with her?
Muhammed knew all of these things. Why don't any of them jive with science?
And while you're at it, lose the Gook/goat shagger/Raghead racist language behind.
Not so much that I'm calling you racist, not that at all, it's that by using the old techniques of giving the Enemy a name that makes them not human, it's easier to both attack them with a clearer conscience, and more important, ignore the facts.
It's not just a-rabs and desert rats or whatever stereotype you've got going, it's over 300 million people of all races that have said, when asked, that they support people murdering you because you are not of the faith.
It wouldn't surprise me if the majority of Muslims are asian or Islander... ( a mix of nomadic tribes with connections to Asia and S. America... and on to Egypt )
So, yes, it's always going to be a tiny minority that take their faith seriously. A tiny percentage that are obedient to the prime aspects of their faith, much less the many little rules that the Priests have come up with over the centuries to "guide" their flocks.
That's true of Islam, Shinto, Baptists... All faiths.
Islam is the one that tells them to kill you.
and don't get all complacent about that "tiny minority". It's only when you think of a 4 billion person planet that 200 million is a tiny minority. That's the people who are willing to cheer as you are murdered. It's only thousands of people, living here, in the U.S. ( or being imported this year by Barry ) who are willing to murder you.
And they are of ALL races and backgrounds.
Until we support reform of this pre-medieval slave owning murderous faith, those who oppose it will rule. And keep on killing, and raping and enslaving. ( and the BOOK says it CANNOT be reformed... so it won't be easy )
Pro-American Muslims need us to help them discredit the fundamentalists. We cannot do this without openly acknowledging — as, for example, Egyptian president Abdel Fattah al-Sisi has courageously done — that the roots of jihadist aggression are Muslim scriptures. This must not be obscured by political correctness. The scriptures in question must be acknowledged and reinterpreted in a manner that confines them to their historic context and nullifies a literal interpretation of them in modern life.
If we don’t confront the animating ideology and its stealth supporters with every bit as much energy as our police pursue the murderous jihadists, we lose. Winning begins with cashiering political correctness, with speaking openly about, and understanding, what we are up against.
in islam, you get murdered for saying those kinds of things. you are totally right, reform is off the table. the only "hope" is for unfaithful muslims who are still unclear as to what their prophet preached.
"peace through superior firepower" is (or used to be) an American way of thinking. "peace through violence and annihilation" is an islamic way of thinking. There is nothing else, no compromise, no altering of that which is most sacred.
essentially, islam gives men justification to rape, pillage, murder, steal, destroy, slander. It is a religion of purely total gain (if that's your idea of gain). allah rewards you for taking what you want without asking for it.
that is why it appeals to that sect of "humanity".
Christian Heaven as most see it is a mish mash of medieval artwork, Fiction like Dante's Inferno, and cartoons.
I don't recall any soaring descriptions in the Bible.. please throw me a bone here... Pretty much being there in the direct presence of God was good enough.
The halos, clouds & harps are all cartoons. I don't think there's a word about that nonsense in the Book.
Muslim Heaven is an adolescent's dream...mixed with the fantasies of horny old men with erectile disfunction.
Do all the forbidden booze you want, no hang over. Drugs, all you want, don't get sick. Eat all the greatest food ever, never get sick, never get full, never get fat.
And Sex! not real women, Oh, No!, they talk back. Islam gives you Houris. Angels, perfect of form, eager to please, willing to submit, ever virginal. And you never have a problem getting it up, never get tired, and they never talk back and you are never refused any kink.
Part of the problem is that within Islam, when they aren't killing the non-believers, they are killing other Muslims that have slightly different interpretations of their religion. We have little to do with reforming Islam. We are not an Islamist state. Reform has to come from within, but that has lead to little more than bloodshed amongst themselves. From the real infidels, (that would be the proverbial "we") it's just not going to happen. Perhaps through another crusades, but that wasn't really reform of anything.
The current Egyptian government, ( the one Obama hates for kicking out the Rapist in Chief he supported ) and the Kurds are the ones to support in any Reform Movement.
The Saudis, Pakistanis and Iranians are all the Keepers of the Status Quo.
If I were King, I'd support the good guys and hammer the bad. Cut off their oil supplies if Need be. That would collapse Saudi Arabia and Iran. It would be bloody, nasty, and brutal, but might be worth it in the end.
You'd need to get the Russians on your side too. That'd give you some hard choices. I think I could Sell it to Vladimir. Russia would become the biggest Oil sales country while the Mid East fell.
Aesquire, heaven is described in the bible in several places. Some physical dimensions are laid out for the inner city which lies "four square", whatever that means, streets of gold, eternal presence of God, no need of sun for the eternal light of God. No tears, no sorrow, no marriage according to the words of Jesus himself. There are also descriptions of beasts and beings that just don't work with my mind, I can't contemplate them. The heavenly beings and objects in Ezekiel, for example, are just outside my ability to grasp.
Animals. Animals. Barbaric, brutal, intolerant, sadistic, slave masters, butchers of women and children.
And I mentioned no ethnicity. I am not racist. Or intolerant. I have friends and family of all sorts and beliefs. Every type of "Christian", Wiccan, Hindu, Buddist, pagan,the list goes on and on, but NONE of them believe that I should die because I am not one of them. None of them plant bombs to kill the unknown and innocent.
I refuse to use any word, term or expression that elevates the murderous B**tards to the level of "human".
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While I completely understand your anger, and like you, I have friends of every faith, this is a very human thing.
Humans are the #1 monsters. You can try to make a case that mosquitoes and viruses kill more of us, those things don't do so with deliberation. Ebola doesn't sit in his apartment getting angrier and angrier at the youtube video of an Imam telling him how nothing is his fault but it's YOURS. Yellow Fever doesn't hang out in a gay club then have a guilt driven rampage killing those he parties with because his father and his preacher told him to kill gays....and Smallpox doesn't kill gays because he fears his own father will torture him to death for getting a hummer in a bathroom.
No, those are Human problems.
And, almost exclusively religious ones.
I'm a bit of a broken record when I point out, again, that there are 2 1/2 faiths on this planet today that have, at their core, a brutal acceptance of dishonesty when dealing with other faiths. And I narrow it down to 2 1/2 by ignoring all the different sects that each faith has. ( even while any 2 of the sub-groups will insist, screaming and killing, that they are nothing like the other. See Suni/Shia or Communist/Socialist )
And I only throw in the 1/2 because the incredible ignorance of most folk as to where the people that want them dead come from.
So.... sure. Murderous B**sterds. Uncivilized by DEFINITION. Enemies to all freedoms and Western Civilization. Slavery, misogyny, rape & ruin.
An ideology that can be seen as a failure by any rational standards... except the spread by word and flame. They are a growing problem, and it will only end in slaughter.
I live in Dar el Harb. I embrace it. I will not ever live in the land of Submission. And I will not go quietly into the night.
It's a good thing I don't live in Dearborn.
Nor shall I ever visit it again as a tourist. And it was once a favorite destination.
Islamists may be Homo sapiens, but they're not human. They're zombies, generally speaking.
Yes, there are some who wake up and leave islam. Not everyone who self identifies as "muslim" is a zombie.
But I have said before, and will say again, that the majority of those cute, cuddly, peace loving muslims here in the west will have no choice but to become true muslims once the heavy hitters role into town and start torturing, raping, burning and beheading those who do not accept the teachings of mohamed, in their original context.
Zombies? No, sorry, you underestimate the darkness within, and the Culture involved.
A young man from Saudi Arabia would consider you a Zombie. Work all the time, a wage slave, senses dulled by common fare and lack of time to enjoy life. Your faith a shallow, tepid thing, foolish in it's "turn the other cheek" and "love one another" misguided girlishness. Not to mention the utter lack of good sense in keeping your womenfolk hidden away where their slutty nature will not naturally inflame the passions of men beyond all control.
You or I most probably agree that living on handouts from the King, considering all Others to be slaves & servants, and having no control over our base desires is the sign of a spoiled child, not a responsible adult.
It's the Culture.
If you were raised in it, if every ad, every example before you was one where Others, especially women, are property, and Of Course you can't be expected to not get so horny you must take against their will, any women you glimpse a flash of her knee...... How can you expect to resist such Harlots?
Why should you work for a living when the King pays you not to?
Why should you not believe the daily mantra that you are the Chosen ones, that all who believe even a tiny bit differently are scum, animals, Zombies to be enslaved, and if they resist to be killed, and their daughters and wives taken ( in the Biblical sense ) then sold to lesser men to abuse unto death?
The Saudi practice of hiring foreign workers to do the actual work of cleaning & keeping the Grand Cities working is not even this side of slavery in many cases. Not too bad if you are an American Male Engineer. Sucks to be a Indian pump repairman. Pure hell for a Bangladeshi female janitor.
Thinking the enemy is not human is a trap many have fallen into for all of history.
Scum, yes, evil by our lights, certainly, but THEY don't see themselves that way.
And, most important, THEY have been told that the reason they don't have what you do is YOUR fault.
This technique for manipulating the peasants into war is ancient. It's how rich men get poor students to fight the police for The Glorious Revolution. ( and it's why those same students are first to be murdered en mass when the rich men take the jobs of their rivals using the fools for cannon fodder )
It was so In Paris in the French Revolution, it was so in Moscow for Lenin's revolution, and it's true for the Occupy morons in city parks this decade. It's true for the "Black Lives Matter" shills and thugs today.
And it's certainly true for the wave of refugees from Obama's Wars that have flooded Europe and America and brought rape and murder to those shores.
But they are not zombies. It's FAR worse than that.
A quick check on snopes would help with some of the fact checking...
Do people still use snopes for fact checking? I've found so many verifiable errors coming from snopes it's not even funny. I got an email a while back detailing the fall of snopes, from a responsible fact checker, to liberal hack. No, I didn't read the provided link, so I'm making no comment on information provided there. Simply commenting on snopes in general.
I remember when snopes started back in alt.urbanlegends on usenet back in 1994.
A great forum, that shaped a lot of what the Internet became in ways that people that weren't there will never really understand.
It's a shame Snopes became politicized to the degree they became half fact and half propaganda. Still lots of good facts out there, but you for sure can't take their conclusions at face value anymore. Both incorrect assertions based on the facts they do cite, and major omissions of relevant information that doesn't support their assertions.
Not all useless, but kind of worse than useless, when it is seeded with deliberate misinformation. Kind of like the difference between broken glass in your driveway (meh) and broken glass in your hamburger (hell no).
Ahh I remember usenet on a green CRT equipped VT101 at the university was my first taste of the internet.
My friend showed me how to FTP things in 1992. I remember this very distinctly: I downloaded "Commander Keen" from finland to my little chunk of VAX. it was 640K and it took half a second. Then we left the VAX lab, went across the street to the PC lab and downloaded the file from the VAX to the dos machines with KERMIT I think it was 9600 baud. That took about 15 minutes!
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Anybody else play Star Trek on an IBM mainframe back in the '70s? Had to load it from a card deck. Along with everything else that ran on the computer back then.