| Author | Message | ||
     Buellerthanyou |
Gootch, In your personal description you mention "clip-on bars" as a modification. What kind are they and do they contact either the tank cover or the fairing?  I've been looking for some, but can only find 5/8" bar size. Thanks, HellBuelly J | ||
| Firemanjim |
Brad,I did what Henrik suggested to one of mine with a fine punch to make a bunch of dimples and it worked fine. | ||
| S2pengy |
Clean the ball and socket with acetone...The loktite is put on the ball, wiggile the mirror to get it in the socket and then place the mirror where you want it to stay for good...... | ||
| Sportyeric |
Or the handy-dandy search function of Badweb (snowmobile) will give you a lead to a pic of a fantastic paint job on an S2, and: Yamaha Mirrors Pair 8CR-W2628-00-00 Left 4SV-26280-00 Right 4SV-26290-00 | ||
| Lornce |
Quoting Gootch: "Sportyeric, how come no choke? Excuse my sarcasm, but is that 48 low speed jet washing down your cylinders, or has Jim installed a Blast carb?" Just saw this and wonder what you recommend re. slow jet size? thanks, Lornce | ||
| Hoser |
Mirrors- I have tightened mine before , it's challenging to reach the fasteners but can be done , they are waaaay up inside the boot , you hafta hold your mouth right.there is potential to tear the boot , due to the way it has to be stretched . | ||
| Bartimus |
Everyone wishing to be added to the signature series list please email me at: Buelligan@cox.net with your name, year, model, color, series number, and whether you have it or not. Thanks!!! | ||
| Jsunstar |
hey all you 95 s2 owners, i gotta question. does your bike have a voes? mine does not. i have a dyna 2000 ignition. no voes! should there be one. do i need one with the dyna 2000?? lemme know here or ofline (jsunstar@yahoo.com) thanks fellas jason 95 s2 | ||
| Bartimus |
I have a VOES and a DYNA 2000 on my newest S2. My older S2 just has a VOES and stock ignition. With the Dyna2000, the VOES is used to control the retard of the ignition depending on how you set the dip switches on the Dyna. Are you SURE there isn't one in your system somewhere? edited by bartimus on April 16, 2004 | ||
| Sportyeric |
Lornce. A 45 jet is normal up here. Stu says "all those guys" like to run rich. I'm not sure if "all those guys" meant "all Americans" or "all Californians" or "all LSR guys" or "all ex-PACBOGS." In any case, the plugs that came out looked fine except for their vintage(!), so the jetting seems OK. Choke to start it, then just keeping the throttle open a bit is how the Sporty ran. This ones the same except the idle is a tad high so it does that by itself. I'm really wrestling with the question of whether or not to throw my Lightning cams into this baby. Stock heads ported by Nallin. It would still be better from 3500 to 6000, right? | ||
| Gootch |
Sportyeric, many of our customers and what I've heard from some of the owners on the west coast tend to run rich. Jim has been around since Christ was a little fella and knows his Buell stuff, I'd take his advise. In our BC climate we have found a good base line is 45 speed low speed jet, N64 needle, and 180 to 200 on the main using a stock emulsion tube. Buellerthanyou, my clip-ons are built by crossroads as well as my rear-sets. I put on the new smaller diameter 2004 sportster grips because I've been getting used to 7/8" bars. I'll bring my camera home tonight and post a couple of shots. By the way, the crossroads clip-ons come with spacers to move your fairing 1" forward. I wish you luck finding a pair, I think I purchased the last pair of rear-sets, and their S2 parts are depleting. I'm not sure of the bars, you may want to give em a ring. I'll take some close ups to give you an idea. | ||
| Firemanjim |
Bueller,I have a set of clip-ons on the B'ville bike.I got the set to fit the forks(54mm?) and just made a custom set of bars from 1" alum,turned to 7/8 to fit into clip-ons and still use the S-2 controls. | ||
| Lornce |
Sportyeric and Gootch, Thanks for your input. I'll pull the 48 I just installed in the S3 and replace the 45. The S2's home now, and man it's pretty in red. Cleaning up nicely. Autosol'ed the oil tank to within an inch of it's life and it rewarded the effort with a fine sheen, indeed. Sweet piece. Triple clamps are forged, not the billet type I've read about here. Ah, the joys of low production motorcycles, eh. And the side stand! Are they all like that? Thought it was falling over the first time I used it! Note to self: modify for more upright prop stance. Stock motor tugs nicely in the lower register and makes pleasant rumble sounds with the Supertrapp, not the rude bellow of the D&D meg on a T-Storm: both are just fine for responsible street use. Gonna tear it down tomorrow and put these Lightning heads on, anyway.... Anyone have watchful words of wisdom for a newbie Buell surgeon? Planning to strap the frame to the rafters and just let it all hang loose with a floor jack under the motor.... Corbin looks and feels good, like a Corbin should (thanks Dave). Love the lines of the tank, and the reach to the bars make it fit like a glove. Can't wait to rail on this thing. Nearly two years ago I first enquired on this site about S2's in reference to the S3 I'd just found. Never did forget the enthusiastic responses offered by Aaron and others. I wouldn't have really noticed these bikes without that sort of input. Owe you all a thanks for sharing your enthusiasm and letting me in on a great secret. Oh, and if anyone has a T-Storm top end they're not using....  What DID people do before motorcycles? cheers, Lornce | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Another question for the S2 collective. Is the isolator kit the same for the S2's as for the rest of the late model tubers? I'm having a bit of problem cross referencing the part numbers due to all the superseeding parts. I ordered two sets today, one for my M2, one for the S2. Got to thinking on the way home that they may be different.... Brad | ||
| Rex |
The sidestand is the only thing that I do not like about my S-2. Sue is scary when lay it over on the sidestand....feels like it is going over on you, doesn't it......REX | ||
| Kevyn |
I know I enjoy the heck out of mine. Sure, there are bikes with more power, etc., but the S2 is just a very unique machine. My Duc is fun and a helluva lot faster in some respects and smoother riding but the S2 just has qualities that don't need fast and smooth to make it stand out...darned if I can put words to what the S2 qualities are specifically but anyone who spends time in the saddle will know what I'm talking about. | ||
| Bluzm2 |
I still owe the collective pics of the Wilson side stand modification. I'll try real hard to get to them Sunday. It's been a tough week. Lost a mother in law (my Sisters husbands Mom), my Mom had emergency surgury. All that before Wed... Also need to get my XB rocker covers on and documented. | ||
| Firemanjim |
Brad,ya need to check that out as the S-2's don't use that updated version of the isolators as something hits/interferes--just can't remember what offhand. | ||
| Jsunstar |
bartimus... i can find it, or the plug it would go into... the bike should perform better at the track than it does, it goes ok on the street, not great though...where does yours plug into on the bike? should be under the tank somewhere right? hmmm. jason | ||
| Bartimus |
Jsunstar, The VOES on both of my S2's is located above and behind the carburator, between the cylinders. The vacuum line runs from it, down to the air filter. I'm not sure how the wire is routed, or to where. I'll look tomorrow, at both bikes and let you know how they are plugged in. | ||
| Firemanjim |
1 wire goes to a connector on wire loom near coil,one of the only lone wires over there.(might be white?)Pull gas tank and it will be obvious.Does your Dyna have the VOES set-up on it,as one of my old ones did not.Also a ground wire. | ||
| Gootch |
Lornce, please remember that the carb mods I have suggested work well in our area. CV carbs come with a 42 low speed and we install the 45 to help with the cough and hick-up. I find 48's are too rich for our area. Bluzm2, the updated isolators don't work on S2's because of the back plate extends around the bottom of the isolator on a 45 degree angle, protruding about 1". If you were to use the "doughnut" style mount, the metal prortion could contact the engine mount. The service bulletin states S1, M2, X1, S3, and S3T models only, and will not work on S2's or S2T's. The double band isolator is the latest one we can use on S2's. I'm still waiting for someone to make a pair of the "doughnut" style mount work. A little grinding and I'm sure they'll go in. Cheers, Stuart | ||
| Lornce |
Gootch, Thanks for the tip. Here on the shores of Lake Ontario we're only about 250 ft above sea level, so the atmosphere's pretty similar to Vancouver. I'll put the 45 jet back in the S3. Had an interesting day getting to know the S2 a little better, installing a pair of '96 Lightning heads in place of the originals. One detail to note if you plan to put Lightning or Thunderstorm heads on your S2.... The front isolator mounts to the head using a 7/16" bolt on the port side and a 3/8" bolt on the starboard side, while the Lightning and T-Storm heads use a 7/16" bolt on both sides of the mount. ie: You'll have to drill the starboard hole on the stock S2 isolator.... to accept the 7/16" bolt you "borrow" from your S1 or S3 'cause it's Saturday night and the fastener supply's not open.... Apart from that, it's pretty straight forward. Buell on, Lornce | ||
| Jsunstar |
i cant find a wire, a connector, it doesnt say anything about voes on the dyna 2000. its weird, i cant see how its gettting advance... its not obviously... anyone have a picture of their early s2's voes so i can see where its plugged in to? jason | ||
| Tim |
VOES does not advance timing, it retards it whenever vacuum drops significantly, like when you "whack" the throttle open. | ||
| Jsunstar |
yeah, thats what i meant, this is where im having the performance problem... driving me nuts | ||
| Firemanjim |
Check with Dyna ignitions,I sent my old one back and they updated it for me a couple of years ago.If one of your switch positions on the back do not say VOES on/off you have a box not meant for your application.There was a separate wire for this on the Dyna and there are 2 wires coming from your VOES,one ground,one to wiring harness where I described.These wires have been known to pull out of the VOES. | ||
| Bartimus |
there should be a purple wire coming out of your Dyna, this would be for the VOES.  | ||
| Bartimus |
   I hope this info helps. It does sound like you have an ignition set up for racing. | ||
| Jsunstar |
fellas thanks, this helps alot. i checked the dyna2000 and it does have a voes switch on it!(well ill be...) ok, im getting this. it doesnt go to retard mode at all then. (no voes) i have to follow the wire and see what the builder had in mind... hmmm, nitrous maybe? very interesting! its amazing what you can learn from the internet! thanks again, you all have been a huge help. S2 input, i rode mine today and got my budy on it for a spin and now he has me looking for a buell for him! he likes the s2. | ||
| Bartimus |
Junstar, If there is no VOES mounted on your bike, your gonna need to buy one. I think they are around $70 for a simple vacuum operated switch. I think it closes around 5" of vacuum. (it must be that HD emblem on the side that makes it cost so much) I may have a spare one laying around if you need one. S2's are the ONLY way to go!! Tripods forever! edited by bartimus on April 19, 2004 | ||
| Firemanjim |
If you need one let me know as I may have one in barn.I can look tuesday. | ||
| Jsunstar |
OK, lemme know fellas. i have one from a sportster but i dont think its the same plug,,, i need to return it. does the vacuum come fromt the carb? theres a tied off vacuum line coming off of my carb... lemme know who has one layin around! id be interested to see the performance difference... thanks fellas! Jason Eveyone in pikksburg luvs da stillers! dey say we talk funny doh...i don getit! | ||
| Firemanjim |
Yes vacuum line from carb. | ||
| Bartimus |
Yep, the vacuum line from the carb goes to the VOES. There should be two wires coming from the Voes. One goes to ground and the other goes to the purple wire on your Dyna2000. The connector shouldn't matter, since you will probably just snip it off and butt-splice the wire to the purple wire, and crimp a ring-lug onto the other to run to a grounding point. The VOES from the sportster should work just fine, like I said, just snip the connector off. The VOES is just a simple switch so it does not matter which wire goes where, as long as one is grounded and the other goes to the Dyna. P.S. My buddies up in WilkesBarre, call that talk: Pennsyltucky coalspeak!!! edited by bartimus on April 19, 2004 | ||
| Jsunstar |
cool, who wants to get rid on one to me? let me know what i need to send... jsunstar@yahoo.com im glad yinz figured it out ive been puzzling this one for a while. i even started a post in the proper section of badweb but nothing came of it, it wasnt a highly read topic i guess... i got some info but i couldnt figure out where it went, was it supposed to be there, etc... thanks for the info fellas, i coldnt have learned this one without ya! yinz guys are da greatess! S2 topic stuff: rode my S2 today...then it rained | ||
| Gootch |
I just placed some pic's of our S1 on the "Cool Pics" section of the bad-web. Have a look and let me know what ya think. Cheers, Stuart. | ||
| Gootch |
I just placed some pic's of our S1 on the "Cool Pics" section of the bad-web. Have a look and let me know what ya think. Cheers, Stuart. | ||
| Bartimus |
Jsunstar, You have email | ||
| Rex |
would be cool to expand the S-2 or early buell section someway....can we set up just a photo area? put them in serial number order? or color? rex | ||
| Bartimus |
can we archive some of this, also? It sure is taking a long time to bring up the page... | ||
| Rex |
for those wanting to get into the S-2 club, there is a RED S-2 with white frame over on sacborgs classified section.......REX | ||
| Doughnut |
Anyone with an easy, fast way to keep the white rims on a S2 clean, short on not riding? | ||
| Bluzm2 |
A handy bucket of water and a sponge. No joke, that's what I do! They really get dirty fast don't they! | ||
| Rex |
Looks like another S-2 on ebay...rex | ||
| Doughnut |
Where are all the S2 riders at. I feel so alone. I am looking at a tour pack from Areostich or Tour-master. Any opinon on either? | ||
| Buellerthanyou |
You're not alone 'Nut! I'm here for you...all you gotta do is ride down to central Texas, and here I am!  Actually, we have several Esstoos in our li'l riding group: Crazy Carl has a '96 S2 and a '96 S2T, I have a '95 S2, FleshJunkie and BuellieDan down in San Antone each have one, there's a guy I haven't met here that has one with orange striped rims and Dawg reported on a "wicked fast" guy from Houston on one at a track day. Come down for the Twisted Texas BRAG adventure in September so we can meet you! J http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hellbuellies/ "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well preserved piece, but to skid across the line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, shouting 'I Love My S2!'" --Anonymous HellBuelly | ||
| Lornce |
Bueller Advice Sought: Been thinking to transfer the Thunderstorm motor from the '98 S3T to the '95 S2 and vice versa. Does anyone know off-hand if there are "issues" I need to be wary of? I've noticed the S2 ignition module uses a different pin connector than the S3. I'm guessing it's the same leads, just a different plug: anyone know different? Also, does anyone know which flywheels are fitted to the S3 T-Storm motors? I know the S2 has a stock Sportster motor complete with large flywheels. Does the '98 S3 unit use the lighter Lightning flywheels? Any and all info appreciated. Cheers! Buell on, Lornce | ||
| Firemanjim |
Lornce,you are just keeping the ignition module from the S-2 anyway as its hooked into wiring harness already,bolt it in and go.That must be an early S-2 as they changed to later pin style in 1995 sometime.One of mine was early,one was late style. | ||
| S2pengy |
Yes the S3t if it came with thunderstorm heads will have the lightened flywheels... Front motor mount uses two large diameter bolts instead of one smaller and one larger... You can ream the smaller hole and use the orginal mount if you want.... | ||
| Lornce |
Thanks S2pengy, got it covered. Dealt with the 7/16" motor mount bolt when installing the Lightning heads on the S2. Did as you suggested and opened up the mounting hole on the original mount. Good to know about S3's lighter flywheels. Anybody have ideas why this '98 S3 is so much smoother than the '96 S1 or my buddy's '99 X1? Is there a difference in the '98 spec isolators I'm feeling? It's noticeably smoother than the other two bikes. The S2's smooth too, but the lazier throttle response easily identifies the heavier flywheels. Fireman Jim, According to the Sig Series documentation it's 1021 of 1399 produced. That doesn't seem too early if the numbering system's as straight forward as it seems. But if there's some esoteric factory code involved, all bets are off! Was hoping to use the race ignition module on the S3 with the T-Storm motor in the S2. Do you know off-hand if it's simply a difference in pin connector plug type, or is there a significant difference in the way they're wired? I should just go spend five minutes in the garage and answer my own lazy question.... thanks, Lornce | ||
| Firemanjim |
I know Dyna makes adapters to go either way as I have used both of them before.Don't have manual here at work but may be 1 more pin/wire in later connector. |
