| Author | Message | ||
     Hughlysses |
I sure was hoping for a big announcement this week. Sigh.... | ||
| Zac4mac |
Can't say anything specific, but they ARE getting "ducks in a row" and making progress. This knowledge is first-hand.. trust me.  Keep the faith! Z | ||
| Hughlysses |
Thanks for saying that much- good to hear! | ||
| Court |
There have been "significant" contacts with dealers and there appears to be a lot of interest and interesting things in the works . . . | ||
| Court |
Hahahahah . . . personally . . . I consider the mere fact that Dan (Bullied) has ceased bitching and moaning about what a crummy job they have done of communicating with dealers . . to be GREAT news. :-) | ||
| Thumper1203 |
^^^  ^^^... DITTO! Great news!...........GO EBR! | ||
| Sparky |
YAY!  | ||
| Ratbuell |
....if they need anything in the curvy-roads mountains of western Maryland, I'm here.... | ||
| Buelliedan |
Buelliedan is waiting to see what they do next.  | ||
| Mackja |
My dealer has not heard anything, I think not getting in contact with the dealer body more quickly is a bad strategy. These are your front line people, they should have been contacted and briefed right after the sale. | ||
| Ponti1 |
Buelliedan is waiting to see what they do next. "LIKE" | ||
| Needforspeed |
I know EBR wants to get things right. However, it would be good to hear more. The things I am hearing do not all seem to be completed. For example the EBR website being up. It is full of old information, store does not work, and dealer network is old which I cannot find any in my area that want to help or have heard anything. What good is that to us? I was hoping for something to be announced at AIMExpo in Orlando last month. | ||
| Nobuell |
It would be nice if we were told what kind of company the new EBR? will be. Do they plan to just sell new bikes? Do they plan to continue support for racers with the race parts? Will they race? Not knowing what to expect makes it difficult to determine future plans. If they need more time to get things up and running, that is not a problem if we know what to expect when they get there. I understand restarting the company is difficult and fraught with known and unknown issues. Knowing what type of company to expect would be very helpful. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Nobuell- Bruce answered, or at least gave some good indications regarding those questions in a post in this thread last month: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=253912&post=2510401#POST2510401 | ||
| Nobuell |
Actually he stated things he needs to do to get the business going and the problems they are having. He does not identify what the new company will do. As I stated previously, what they will offer is what I need to know. Decisions on the go forward for me needs the info. I understand it is difficult to get the business going. I run a multi million dollar company. I know the difficulties. He must have a business plan. At this point, we really do not know more than we did originally. I would like to know what they will be offering. I have been without race parts support since EBR closed. I am tired of scrounging for race parts. At this point, I would seriously consider a new EBR if there will be support. Going to a new platform may be the result without some knowledge. The longer they do not communicate, the quicker people will be moving different directions. Quit frankly, I am not sold on the whole new company. They will need some serous cash to go forward. Getting the cash will in my opinion be a problem. I know how difficult money can be for large companies. We are a 200 million a year company that has been in business for 30 years and our credit line would just scratch the surface. I hope I am wrong and will be pleased to be proven to be. I like having the unusual bikes on the road and at the track. Perhaps we will get some usable information soon. | ||
| Mog |
Hughlysses... you are right but not to bash you.... Bruce's next to the last comment was "restarting the production line". Might Bruce merely indicate what manner of bike starts the production? From a marketing standpoint EBR is doing a no-no. EBR must give me a reason to hang around.... they are losing my heartbeat not my hopes. Even Ryca (which I do not want) is making some $. Get something running on the garage floor that can ship, demonstrate you can build toward the NEW big bike, establish a credit line based on some kind of numbers and impress the press with, if necessary, a rebranded design. The mule starved by indecision between two bales of hay.  | ||
| Whistler |
When it comes to communication from the old or the new EBR I think Buelliedan and all vendors, dealers, bike buyers, investors, anyone would actually put money into EBR, have been very patient, incredibly so. To criticize Buelliedan for wanting additional information is simply bad form, joke or no. | ||
| Ljm |
I think that it is a double-edged sword. If you talk all the time and don't produce, you look like a flim-flammer. If you don't communicate, you run the risk of the public losing confidence. Perhaps a little middle ground: weekly or bi-weekly press releases that talk about what is happening, but not overstating. | ||
| Mog |
Lim..... well put. | ||
| Snacktoast |
It would be nice if we were told what kind of company the new EBR? will be. If they were ready to share this information, don't you think the EBR community would know? I suspect they are fighting through many more legal hoops than were imagined. I'm sure the list of people that want to know what they will produce is in the tens of thousands, if not more. I've learned a few things over the years of being in the industry. 1. You can be damn sure that there will be no information released until the "i"s are dotted and the "t"s are crossed. 2. Production doesn't ramp up overnight. There are so many regulatory measures that must be recognized that people who aren't familiar with jumping through said government hoops would be left with a spinning head. 3. Good things come to those who wait. 4. No need to rush into things until the product can be properly supported. 5. Does anyone actually know if the "new EBR" can talk about "old EBR" business to the public at this point? See #2 above. 6. There are more people with skin in the game than people on this board realize... To clarify, I know nothing of their current situation, and am rooting 100% in their favor. However, at the same time, they have a mountain to climb that might simply take some time until they are willing to release information that appeases the masses. | ||
| Sprintst |
Seems like the parts business would be relatively easy to restart first Seems like........ | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
"3. Good things come to those who wait. " only what is left behind from the people who got there first. I understand things take time, but the longer people go without any indication of what's going on the number of people who 'jump ship' to a different manufacturer will rise. And I agree with Sprint - Parts business should be easier to do than full bike manufacturing, and would get money in the door. As I get more and more financially stable and thinking about the next bike to grace the garage I, too, wonder where they will go. If I'll have to seek another manufacturer for my needs because of products offered or wait time | ||
| Reepicheep |
Life is short, if you are waiting to buy a bike until you see what EBR2.0 is going to offer... stop. Go buy something shiny that is already for sale now, and enjoy it. When EBR does build a bike you want, then if you want it, buy it then. If you want to hedge your bets, buy something now that is cool, but used. So long as you didn't buy it new, it won't lose *that* much value. | ||
| Submax |
+1  | ||
| Buelliedan |
"3. Good things come to those who wait." Unfortunately, In the motorcycle business, just like computers, if you wait too long you get left behind quite quickly. (Message edited by buelliedan on November 09, 2015) | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
I couldn't wait for the RX so I bought a new BMW S1000rr. Its' a truly amazing bike but I'm losing my ass trying to sell it right now. I figure I will lose at least $7000 selling it. I paid $17,500 for it and I'm down to $10,500 with no interest. I'll never buy a new bike again. I think it might be wise to be patient sometimes. | ||
| Hughlysses |
I think it might be wise to be patient sometimes. Sometimes it definitely does, but knowing which times is the trick. After 59 years, I don't think I'm much better at it than when I was 6. | ||
| Needforspeed |
"I couldn't wait for the RX so I bought a new BMW S1000rr. Its' a truly amazing bike but I'm losing my ass trying to sell it right now. I figure I will lose at least $7000 selling it. I paid $17,500 for it and I'm down to $10,500 with no interest. I'll never buy a new bike again. I think it might be wise to be patient sometimes." Not the best time to sell motorcycles. IN Cycle Trader I seem them listed for more than that; however, value is based on many things year, mileage, type of use, current condition, accident report, etc.. Sound like you might need to be patient for the right buyer. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Given the computer "left behind" comment above, who's saying the new EBR is going to build the same RX and SX they were building before? Who says they CAN? Maybe...the next bike EBR releases is going to be the "next generation", not just "resuming production". And that's going to take time. (And releasing that info prematurely not only has the potential for "over promise / under deliver" but also gives the competition an edge) I know nothing about what they're doing but I know it all takes time. And concentration. Biweekly press alerts pull that focus and slow the process. I'd rather see them focus and get it right. | ||
| Snacktoast |
...who's saying the new EBR is going to build the same RX and SX they were building before? ...I know nothing about what they're doing but I know it all takes time. Exactly the point I was trying to make. |
