| Author | Message | ||
     Jaimec |
The ONE time I was happy to see Marquez do that. It limits the "damage" to Rossi's lead and keeps the competition tight... | ||
| Fast1075 |
That was a jaw dropping race. They sure had the Ducati twisted up tight. He was out powering the Honda and the Yamaha in a straight line. What a race! | ||
| Jaimec |
I can't believe people are taking Rossi's comments about Marquez and Lorenzo seriously. I'm pretty sure he made those comments with tongue FIRMLY in cheek. If Marquez were REALLY helping Lorenzo, he would've FOLLOWED Lorenzo over the finish line, not passed him and relegating Jorge to second (which Lorenzo himself pointed out in the press conference). If anything, Marquez helped Rossi by limiting the damage had Lorenzo won. If anyone could be accused of "Helping Lorenzo," it would be Rossi's fellow Italian and friend Andrea Iannone, who pipped Rossi at the finish and took the last podium position. | ||
| Jaimec |
Then again... maybe he WAS serious. Check out the update from Crash.net: http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/224458/1/rossi-ac cuses-marquez-of-helping-lorenzo.html | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I think Rossi might be giving Marquez a wee bit too much credit. I believe he's saying it 93 had the potential to clear off at the front and if he did, Rossi would have had a better chance at beating JLo? Not sure about that one, Marquez has had a miserable season with what, 5 crashes and 2 decisive head to head whoopings by the VR46, himself. So is MM good enough to toy with the other aliens at 210 MPH? Not sure I buy it... Like Jamie said, if anyone is too "blame" (blame implies someone did something wrong which doesn't fit in this case) it's Iannone. I mean , he's the non-alien who stuck his head in the mix with that unbelieveable fast Ducati (that seemed to turn alright too!) | ||
| Fast1075 |
And <smack> goes the gauntlet! | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Marquez was also smart enough to cover his tracks by saying in his first interview off the bike that his front tire was overheating when he pushed the pace....that would be a reasonable explanation of having inconsistent periods during the race, if the data even supports that. I haven't personally looked at it yet. | ||
| Crusty |
And <smack> goes the gauntlet! Was that a gauntlet or a Flounder? | ||
| Fresnobuell |
60% chance of rain on Sunday. good chance for a wet race. More drama? Not sure i can take it! | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Great photos of the recent evolution of the winglets http://photo.gp/2015/10/22/motogp-winglets-war/ | ||
| Hughlysses |
This was posted on Mark Miller's FB page; it's a graph of the lap times from Phillip Island. Maybe Rossi has a point Chart Edited to replace large image with link to help page readability.  (Message edited by blake on October 27, 2015) | ||
| Pwnzor |
LOL! MotoGP Millipede (Message edited by blake on October 27, 2015) | ||
| Fresnobuell |
What's the point? Marquez was considerably faster on the last two laps? Did anyone else hear him say his front tire was overheating and he was forced to back off, then he let it go to win the race? You can look at those lap times for 93 and see where he goes fast then slows because he's front tire overheating. Seems to me his front cooled down in perfect timing to win that race. | ||
| Jaimec |
Rossi pipped Lorenzo for the final position on the front row. Not an issue because we've seen Lorenzo grab the holeshot from the second row MANY times in the past. Should be a humdinger of a race though! Rain predicted overnight so the track will be COMPLETELY different during the race too. Nothing like throwing as many variables as possible into the mix. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Damn, 45 minutes until the red lights go out and I don't know how to kill the time. If I go sit on the couch, I'm gonna fall asleep with visions of blue yamahas dancing in my head. | ||
| Pwnzor |
I've lost 99% of the respect I ever had for Valentino Rossi. Take 50% of that and give it back to Lorenzo. Rossi's lucky to still have his teeth after that fiasco, because if it were me I'd have been waiting for him in the paddock. | ||
| Hughlysses |
^ Agreed. This update from Superbikeplanet:
Long discussion on this at ADVrider. The gist seems to be that the officials agree that Marquez was not faultless. This slow motion video gives a different perspective on the crash: (Message edited by Hughlysses on October 25, 2015) | ||
| Hughlysses |
Quote from the race officials:
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| Davegess |
I think Rossi's big mistake was accusation Marc of holding him up at PI. MM may well have messed with Rossi a bit by getting in the middle of that three way battle for third and slowing it up a bit. He claims he was saving his tires and he did indeed have the rubber needed to chase down Lorenzo in the amazing last lap. Hard to say what effect he had on Rossi not catching Lorenzo, seems like not much. By accusing Marc Vale just seems to have pissed him off; "you thought I messed with you last week well watch this!" seems to have been Marcs attitude this week. He certainly was messing up Rossi by battling so hard so early in the the race; not normal tactics by any means. I can understand Vale being pissed off. Still Rossi should not have done what heeded and I think the punishments pretty fair. It will present him with a real challenge in Spain. It will be fun to see him blast through the field to get up to the front. He needs to get right on Lorenzos tail and pretty much stay there to win the championship. Should be fun. | ||
| Jaimec |
Years ago, I read an interview with retired AMA Pro champ Mat Mladin. He was asked about his personality and attitude towards other riders and he made the comment to effect of: "Make no mistake. Valentino Rossi will laugh, makes jokes and seem as friendly as anyone in an interview... but get between him and a championship and he'll slip the knife into your back as fast as anyone." Looks like Mat may've been on to something. If I recall correctly, Mat's point was that he was the more "honest" of the two... | ||
| Pwnzor |
Are you f*king kidding me... take that homo crap somewhere else dude. | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
Funny shit!! IMO Rossi was pissed and trying to run Marquez wide, Marquez bumped Rossi's leg and that's when Rossi pushed back with his leg. That's what I saw. I'm not even a Rossi fan I'm a Marquez fan. Watch the scene very closely and you'll see it. I think the leg push was just a natural reaction when getting bumped in the leg. Rossi was definitely guilty of trying to run Marquez wide. | ||
| Jaimec |
This song comes to mind: | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Marquez was riding out of control, he was going to crash (like he's done all season) and likely (purposefully) take out Rossi at the same time. Rossi squashed that bug. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Yes, it will. Marquez had an early lap crash during the season and managed to pull a 5th place finish. No doubt Vale will have to have the race of season and also hope Lorenzo doesn't have a good race. IN order to win, here is where Rossi can finish in relation to JLo (and win the Championship.) Lorenzo finish/Rossi finish 1st/2nd 2nd/3rd (win), 4th (tie) 3rd/6th (win), 7th (tie) 4th/9th (win), 10th (tie) I am not sure what the tie-breaker is...most likely wins, so Vale would lose a tie game scenario. | ||
| Fast1075 |
Even a Zen master has limits on how much he can take. Marquez got what he deserved. | ||
| Jaimec |
Fresno, that photo was already posted in this thread. Scroll up, it was posted yesterday by Fotoguzzi. | ||
| Jaimec |
VERY interesting. This just popped up in my Facebook feed. When you watch it, you can CLEARLY see Marquez running right into Rossi's leg, and Vale trying to push him away with his knee. Marquez was already crashing at that point. |
