| Author | Message | ||
     Germblast |
I have posted this also on the EBR and BuellXB site, but thought i would cover all bases, since this seems to be the primary site. Okay, my new SX was delivered today and now have a couple questions along with issues. The issues are that the key lock for the passenger pad is damaged and the key will not go all the way in. I was able to operate it one time, but now it will not go in all the way. Along with that, the key that was delivered with the bike has a hairline crack about halfway down it and I am afraid that it will break off in either of the cylinders (ignition, gas cap, or seat lock). When I started it up for the first time, it ran for about 30 seconds then shut off. restarted okay but there is a lot of white smoke coming out of the exhaust. I have never bought a new bike with only 7 miles, but is this some kind of condensation build up maybe that needs to burn off or some type of assembly lube? I am afraid of restarting it now because it never seems to lighten up or clear, I ran it for about 2 minutes. I did make sure there was oil in it and there was according to the sight glass. Please let me know if a replacement key can be cut with the key code or aftermarket and about the running issues. Thanks. | ||
| Readyxb |
Did this white smoke have any odor to it? Was it "steam", or did it smell like antifreeze, or like oil smoke? | ||
| Germblast |
i didn't take notice of any type of smell to the smoke, since I didn't notice anything I would assume its condensation. The bike was shipped from San Diego to CT and its about 20 deg colder today than the past few weeks. What would be the average time to burn/steam off any type of condensation? 5 minute ride maybe at normal temp? | ||
| Terrys1980 |
I've had some steam come from mine on the first few start ups. Condensation can build up in the exhaust and in the fuel. | ||
| Germblast |
okay, thanks that is what i was hoping. I know it was sitting for a little while and it came from west coast to east coast. I am going to do a paper test and see what it looks like. I'll post back tomorrow after work when I get a chance to run it a bit longer. | ||
| Pmjolly |
Did it look anything like this? This is a perfectly healthy 1190RX warming up on a cool morning at the Dragon VII event in 2014. This one has plenty of miles on it now with no major issues. It's not mine. Mine's red.  | ||
| Pmjolly |
It's steam. It stops for the most part once it's warmed up. | ||
| Germblast |
that is exactly what mine looked like, thanks for the info. I'll go and try to take it out for a ride tomorrow hopefully between al the rain we are suppose to get in the next 3-4 days. Man I can't wait Thanks for al the info | ||
| 1313 |
Surprised that your 1125R never did that. My 1125CR would do it all the time on cooler mornings. Even since I put the race exhaust on it IIRC, 1313 | ||
| Germblast |
1313, I have only taken the 1125R out a couple mornings when its only been in the 50's at low, but it might have had a little smoke but nothing like the SX. if the rain lets up tonight I might try to get it out in the neighborhood for a couple minutes. | ||
| Hughlysses |
If it continues to make white smoke, that could be a coolant leak, like a blown head gasket. Hopefully it's just condensation as suggested above, but at any rate, check your coolant level. | ||
| Germblast |
I might actually use a pen and mark the level tonight before I start it up again and keep a close eye on it. Have there been any reports of blown head gasket right off the showroom floor? Sh*t I hope its not that, can end up being a very expensive paperweight and wife will be pissed. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
If it was coolant, wouldn't the steam have that distinctive sweet smell? | ||
| Germblast |
The weather decided that the bike needs to stay in the garage, so I wasn't able to start it up again tonight. I want to be able to get the bike up to proper temperature and go for a short ride instead of starting and stopping for short durations. I think the weather is suppose to clear up starting tomorrow afternoon, so i might be able to get in a little ride. If not Sunday will be clear to work on those break-in miles. Along with that I think I'm going to do the first oil change at half the break-in miles, somewhere around 300. Could I pull the secondary muffler off and look for any moisture in the exhaust or would it be further inside and unviewable? Thanks | ||
| Dmhines |
Remember also that these have a Catalytic convertor so produce quite a bit of moisture out of the exhaust. | ||
| Dennis_c |
If you change the oil at 25 miles you woun't beleave the amount of metal in the oil and again at 500. | ||
| Germblast |
with regard to the oil change, what would everyone recommend as intervals during break-in? I have enough oil filters for a couple, but would have to pick up some more oil. | ||
| D_adams |
Changed mine at 600, little bit of glitter in it, otherwise it was fine. Amsoil 20w50. You're going to want to pull the entire muffler off for the first service, you need to drop the screen/filter on the right side anyway. | ||
| Germblast |
Dean - I'm not sure I understand about pulling the whole muffle off to drop the screen/filter on the right side. When you say entire muffler are you saying the whole exhaust or just the secondary? I thought the oil filter in behind the cover on the left side? Looking at the Owners Manual it doesn't state anything about a screen/filter on the right side. Thanks | ||
| M1combat |
These things take 20/50??? | ||
| Pmjolly |
Don't worry if the coolant goes down a little at first. I have heard of many of them needing coolant added to the overflow. Mine was near the top of the 'cold fill' line when I got it. By the first 600 miles, it had gone down to almost empty in the overflow reservoir. I topped it off, did a track day, and it was low again. I topped it off one more time, and have been riding it for a year and a half with no more needed. I don't think the air is bled out very good when new. | ||
| Germblast |
Pmjolly - thanks for the bit of info. I will definitely keep a close eye on things. Not sure how much more during season is left here in Connecticut, but I am going to try to make the best of whats left. | ||
| Bluex |
To clean the screen on the right side, the muffler needs to be dropped a bit to get at the bolts and have enough space to pull it down. The screen is just by the right side drain plug toward the front of the bike. After my first ride, the oil looked awful and foamy in the view port! The filter looked as if it had a few thousand miles, dark and dirty! I changed them out, oil looks clean now. Worth a look. (Got mine from the same dealer in SD) (Message edited by bluex on October 04, 2015) | ||
| Ffbuell1 |
Germblast congrats on your new ride I also have an 1190SX blue and I changed oil at 600 miles ,then again at 2000 I use Amsoil 20-50 and I now have about 4,300 trouble free miles I too live in CT. and an going to go for a ride shortly. | ||
| Germblast |
Ffbuell1 - looks like the weather is going to be nice today, bikes not reg or insured yet and going out of town for a week and will take care of al that when I get back. Hope the weather is nice when I get back into town. I really wanted the Blue one that was offered at the SD dealer but I guess I missed it by a couple hours and decided to to the Red new one instead. They had a Demo which was White with only 250 miles, but wanted the new bike. Even though not registered I might take it out for a couple minutes to get it warmed up and see if the smoke/steam will eventually clear. | ||
| Germblast |
Just wanted to update everyone about the smoke/steam. I was able to get a little seat time on it today since the weather was nicer. started it up and after about 2 minutes of idling it went away. First ride on the bike, was fun that was. I put the TC on 10 just in case and that thing launches from a stop like a raped ape. I did take it easy like the book says during break-in. My plan will be to half the first oil change at 300ish then the normal scheduled maintenance. Here are a couple pictures of whats in the garage, even though there a couple more in my shed.   | ||
| Buellerxt |
Good looking SX and nice group of bikes! Ride safe and enjoy! | ||
| Pmjolly |
Keep an eye on the mounting bolts for the big primary muffler underneath. They like to vibrate loose. If you run it too long with a missing primary muffler bolt, you will end up cracking exhaust parts. More than one of these has had the headers split the welds by riding around with the primary muffler supported by only the headers after the front mounting bolt fell out. My front bolt fell out around 1000 miles. | ||
| Germblast |
can you provide me a picture of which bolts your are referring to? I was looking around the secondary muffler yesterday to see how it unbolts, because I plan on removing it when I get the appropriate ECM. separately - just got word that the dealing will not cover the cost of the broken key nor the broken lock cylinder for the passenger pad. Can I take the cylinder from the gas cap and put it back there and find another gas cap that doesn't require a key. I would like to keep the ability to lock the passenger pad because I am going to use the helmet hanger. Thanks and I'm looking forward to so many more miles on this bike. | ||
| Skntpig |
I changed mine at 6, 30, 80, 300 miles. At 300 miles all the assembly lube and metal was gone. Each change they cleaner and cleaner. | ||
| Germblast |
Skntpig - wow,thats quite a bit of changes but thanks for the info. I guess the more you change it the quicker the break-in stuff gets removed. Did you also clean the screen on the right side also at each change? | ||
| Skntpig |
I checked it at 80 and at 300. The first time there was some debris and none at 300. Oil is cheap when looking at the bike investment. You would be amazed how much metal was in the first 2 changes. I was glad to get it out. I used to race CCS so I run them hard and maintain them like my life depends on it. Oh wait...it does. | ||
| Germblast |
I understand that reasoning, our lives do depend on them. Did you have to drop the rear of the primary muffler to get to the secondary screen? Can someone post a pic of the proper mounting hardware to remove to get the screen cover off and cleaned? Thanks for the info and I'm getting my plans together | ||
| Skntpig |
I'm not sure what you mean by the secondary screen. I dropped the exhaust and took out the screen on the bottom of the motor at 80 and 300 miles. There was some debris at 80 but a small amount compared to my 1125 but I don't recall the mileage I checked that one. It was higher in mileage for sure. If that's not the screen you are referring to I don't know what you are saying. | ||
| Germblast |
That is exactly what I was talking about. did you just unbolt the rear support and swing it down or did you have to completely remove it? I'll make sure to add it to my list of items to look at during the first oil change. |
