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     Haaken |
So yesterday while out for a ride my clutch cover came off (Red loctite used on all four bolts) and I of course lost the ability to use the clutch in addition to the spring and other related pieces that move when the cover comes off. Since teh cover came off it slung oil all over my tire and rear brakes. No big deal initially since it was a small amount on just one side. In the process of loading the bike into a uhaul a good portion of the oil spilled out and essentially coated both my front and rear tires to the point that they would not hold traction on the uhaul's floor and would slide around everywhere making transport a nightmare. So my two questions are this: 1) Where can I get a new clutch components? I lost the spring and I believe there is a specialty washer (No other way I know to describe it) that fits on the spring and cover. 2) is there a way to safely clean up my tires that they can confidently be ridden on again? They are literally almost new with probably about 1,000 miles on them... | ||
| Blks1l |
Any Harley shop can get you the clutch components, as far as the oil any good wash with soapy water should get all of that off, if you have to you can use something a bit harsher. | ||
| Hootowl |
It's remarkable that those bolts came out. 1. They're under a bit of tension from the spring. 2. They're stainless machine screws backing up against an aluminum cover...usually the corrosion holds them in place. 3. The red loctite. I usually have a hard time removing those bolts, especially since they're torx (I've replaced them with non evil hex head bolts). Theoretically, you should have to use heat to get red loctite to yield. Strange. As noted above, any HD shop should have what you need. They're sportster parts. | ||
| Jolly |
WOW ^^^ +1 what Hootowl said!! Red loctite on the 4 torx bolts that hold the clutch inspection cover on...only a dot of blue and the book calls (ok from memory here so do not use this as tech reference, but..) about 8-12 nm(?). its quite possible you have bad threads that the bolts screw into, I had one go bad in one of my bikes and I repaired with a time sert (NOT A HELI-COIL). I recommend you remove all red thread locker with a thread chaser, clean them out thoroughly and inspect the holes to make sure they are still good. repair with time sert if they need to be, and follow the manual for installation. plus... the HD supplied Torx bolts are really soft, hate those things, I never re-use them, I either keep a few on hand in bench stock if I want it to look original or I replace with with hex head style bolts... Id also recommend a close inspection of other components while youre in there...I helped my neighbor who was having clutch issues on her sportster and found that her throw out bearing had catastrophically failed.... with the clutch cover coming off and missing pieces that you are unsure of where they are, i'd maybe pull the primary cover and make sure nothing is inside...its great insurance against a future issue. | ||
| Haaken |
Yeah, i was incredibly surprised that i lost all 4 bolts...I could see one or maybe even two, but i am baffled by how 4 of them came out...At this point i'm just lucky i didn't wreck in a corner due to oil on my tire, especially since I had my girlfriend on the back. I think I am going to have to pull teh entire clutch assembly and inspect at this point since it wouldn't surprise me if something is now worn as a result. Luckily I have 2 other bikes so I can keep riding while I go through everything thoroughly. | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Jolly, Helicoils work fine for this spot. I've used them more times than I can count. Timserts are awesome but much harder to find and a bit of overkill here. I replace the evil torx with SS allen cap screws. If memory serves they are 1/2" 1/4-20 thread. I suspect the cover was over torqued at one point and the threads weakened. Very easy to do. After that it was clutch action and vibration that let one or more back out and or pull out. They there were three.... etc.. Quick fix with Helicoils. They are blind holes so no problem with drillings and tab shards. Just put a rag in the clutch opening. To be honest, whenever I have one roll in that is suspect I just drill it out, tap it and put in the helicoil. Not worth the hassle and takes less than 5 min. The 1/4-20 Helicoil takes a 17/64 drill. Just pick up a "kit" at your local hardware store, about $15 if memory serves (could be totally wrong on that one, I've had mine forever). Comes with around 6 helicoils and the special tap. You provide the drill. I'll check the exact units I use. As Jolly alluded to above, the Timserts are a lot tougher but they aren't usually available when you need them. I use Timeserts for most everything else that has more clamping loads. BTW, the part #'s the the items you lost are: 86802-84B LOCKPLATE, well type 26517-94 SPRING, clutch adjustment Correction.. The bolts are 1/2" not 3/4" The kit I have is Helicoil 5521-4 It originally came with 12 inserts. Looks like the are aroun $20 these days. Brad (Message edited by bluzm2 on June 14, 2015) |
